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Black 32 19.75%
White 84 51.85%
Spanish/Hispanic/Latino 12 7.41%
Asian 5 3.09%
Native American 2 1.23%
Other 27 16.67%
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Old 07-19-2006, 07:43 AM   #281
 
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on the other hair board geared toward african american/blacks there was this one thread in particular where a member was from africa and she was saying how she could recognize similarities in the facial features of african americans to tribes that are in africa today. of course everyone was exited and started posting their pics for her and a few other african ladies to tell them what tribe of africa they belonged to (or at least looked like). she looked at my pic and told me that i didnt look like any member of any tribe in africa that she had seen. which was weird to say the least.
I'm African, but I didn't realize that gave me the ability to guess what tribe a person's from! I should be capitalizing on this! Kidding, but not really. What makes that different from a French person looking at a group of Americans and sorting them as Finnish, Greek, Spanish, etc? How would they know any better than anyone else?

Could you direct me to that thread? I'm curious.
LMAO!!! This made me laugh. I used to work with this African girl (don't know which country) but she told me that she knew I was Somalian. I assured her that I wasn't, as I know my background. She told me, yes I was, I just didn't know it. I told her that while I have been mistaken for Somalian (and Ethiopian) before, I wasn't, my grandmother was Cape Verdean and blah, blah...explained the rest of my background, none of which included Somalian. She proceeded to tell me that my CV grandmother was really Somalian because a lot of Somalians go over there, I just didn't know that. I told her that not only was she not Somalian, she was actually a CV that was considered portuguese or white, but she always identified herself as black. You know, she still said that I was Somalian, lol. Whatever gets her to sleep at night.....
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Old 07-19-2006, 07:49 AM   #282
 
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dont believe that its mistakenly seeing me as not black. thinking like that (in my opinion) is using the one drop rule, whose origins are rooted in slavery. and im not a slave.

Now I'm really confused. I don't get how the "one drop rule" applies in your case.

From my understanding, people bring up the one drop rule in cases where a person's African genes (black genes) are so far removed that it would be silly to consider them black just because they have a remote black relative.

You seem to have 2 black parents and trust me, you really do look black, so I really don't understand your point.

What you are saying is almost embarrassing to me. I'm not trying to take the piss but seriously it's like me insisting that I'm Chinese or something.

Or maybe I and several other people here just don't understand. It's like we're talking about 2 different Americas cuz the stuff you're saying doesn't register.

Oh well, nevermind.
What does take the piss mean? Seriously, I want to know.

As for the rest. Am I mistaken or did Subbrock identify herself as other, just like you?
It means to joke with someone ...to be kidding with them..teasing them, etc.
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Portae - I did not mean that you had chosen other. I was speaking to ZzZoe.

I should chose other; but, I chose white because that is the face I present to the world. And, there is no way I am checking Native American, even though I could, and take advantage of AA laws, when I am no more in need of them than other women that look white.
This is interesting. Could you really legally claim to be Native American? Are there some standards for doing so like such and such a percentage?
Yes, I could claim to be Native American. This is some basic information that I just found for you:

I never really looked into, just accepted what my family and other's have told me. I do know that I was told that I could easily obtain a CIB. I chose not too.
Hey, looking over that, I could claim, too, but ah, why bother. My stepfather did, I'm going to ask him about that again.
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Old 07-19-2006, 07:22 PM   #283
 
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Out of the choices, I would pick "other" and write in Filipino.

Long story.

ETA: Wanna hear the abbreviated version... here it goes.

The Philippine Islands belong to continental Asia, so Philippines is an asian country, right?

Philippines is also an archipelago (group of islands) that lies in the Pacific Ocean, so it is also a Pacific Island, right?

Philippines was colonized by the Spanish in the 16th century, in turn taking on their religion, cultural practices, language (not completely), physical features, and surnames, right?

Philippines was heavily occupied by the United States and Japan (WWII) at one point or another, right?

Philippines has a large Chinese population whose origins root from the wave of merchant Chinese families of the 8th century.

If you ask a Filipino, it isn't cut and dry. It is very complicated, but there is a joke amongst the Filipino community that sums it up pretty well:

If she looks Chinese, but tan, has a Spanish last name and speaks perfect (but accented) English, then she is a Filipina.
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Old 07-20-2006, 12:04 AM   #284
 
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Out of the choices, I would pick "other" and write in Filipino.

Long story.

ETA: Wanna hear the abbreviated version... here it goes.

The Philippine Islands belong to continental Asia, so Philippines is an asian country, right?

Philippines is also an archipelago (group of islands) that lies in the Pacific Ocean, so it is also a Pacific Island, right?

Philippines was colonized by the Spanish in the 16th century, in turn taking on their religion, cultural practices, language (not completely), physical features, and surnames, right?

Philippines was heavily occupied by the United States and Japan (WWII) at one point or another, right?

Philippines has a large Chinese population whose origins root from the wave of merchant Chinese families of the 8th century.

If you ask a Filipino, it isn't cut and dry. It is very complicated, but there is a joke amongst the Filipino community that sums it up pretty well:

If she looks Chinese, but tan, has a Spanish last name and speaks perfect (but accented) English, then she is a Filipina.
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I guess I would choose Other.

I'm fully Moroccan. Morocco is in Africa, but consists of Arabs, who are neither Black, White, Hispanic or Asian.
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Arabs are originally from Asia.

People from Morocco are descendent of the indigenous African peoples, e.g. Berbers, who were already there when the Arabs arrived. As well as them, there are people imported from other parts of Africa as slaves (places as distant and distinct as Ethiopia and what is now Nigeria, for example).

There is also some European influence from the French colonizers as well as some Muslim Spanish that were banished to Morocco and other Maghreb countries, when the Moor occupation of Spain was overthrown.

Not saying that everyone has every single ancestry I just mentioned but the country's background is a lot more diverse and complicated than your simple answer would have people believe.
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I guess I would choose Other.

I'm fully Moroccan. Morocco is in Africa, but consists of Arabs, who are neither Black, White, Hispanic or Asian.
in terms of nationality, do you consider yourself african or moroccan? Like, Im african american. How does it work for you?
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Arabs are originally from Asia.

People from Morocco are descendent of the indigenous African peoples, e.g. Berbers, who were already there when the Arabs arrived. As well as them, there are people imported from other parts of Africa as slaves (places as distant and distinct as Ethiopia and what is now Nigeria, for example).

There is also some European influence from the French colonizers as well as some Muslim Spanish that were banished to Morocco and other Maghreb countries, when the Moor occupation of Spain was overthrown.

Not saying that everyone has every single ancestry I just mentioned but the country's background is a lot more diverse and complicated than your simple answer would have people believe.
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Arabs are originally from Asia.

People from Morocco are descendent of the indigenous African peoples, e.g. Berbers, who were already there when the Arabs arrived. As well as them, there are people imported from other parts of Africa as slaves (places as distant and distinct as Ethiopia and what is now Nigeria, for example).

There is also some European influence from the French colonizers as well as some Muslim Spanish that were banished to Morocco and other Maghreb countries, when the Moor occupation of Spain was overthrown.

Not saying that everyone has every single ancestry I just mentioned but the country's background is a lot more diverse and complicated than your simple answer would have people believe.
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Hey Aphro Deeziac, you quoted me before I could edit my post.

I realized I left out Jewish as an ethnicity, and also, much further back down the line, the ancient Phoenicians.
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Arabs are originally from Asia.

People from Morocco are descendent of the indigenous African peoples, e.g. Berbers, who were already there when the Arabs arrived. As well as them, there are people imported from other parts of Africa as slaves (places as distant and distinct as Ethiopia and what is now Nigeria, for example).

There is also some European influence from the French colonizers as well as some Muslim Spanish that were banished to Morocco and other Maghreb countries, when the Moor occupation of Spain was overthrown.

Not saying that everyone has every single ancestry I just mentioned but the country's background is a lot more diverse and complicated than your simple answer would have people believe.
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Hey Aphro Deeziac, you quoted me before I could edit my post.

I realized I left out Jewish as an ethnicity, and also, much further back down the line, the ancient Phoenicians.
Some modern-day Arabs are descendants of the ancient Phoenicians (i.e. Lebanese)
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Arabs are originally from Asia.

People from Morocco are descendent of the indigenous African peoples, e.g. Berbers, who were already there when the Arabs arrived. As well as them, there are people imported from other parts of Africa as slaves (places as distant and distinct as Ethiopia and what is now Nigeria, for example).

There is also some European influence from the French colonizers as well as some Muslim Spanish that were banished to Morocco and other Maghreb countries, when the Moor occupation of Spain was overthrown.

Not saying that everyone has every single ancestry I just mentioned but the country's background is a lot more diverse and complicated than your simple answer would have people believe.
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Hey Aphro Deeziac, you quoted me before I could edit my post.

I realized I left out Jewish as an ethnicity, and also, much further back down the line, the ancient Phoenicians.
Some modern-day Arabs are descendants of the ancient Phoenicians (i.e. Lebanese)
This is true. Lebanon, like Morocco, has a *very* diverse history in terms of demographics, and yes, the Phoenicians were living in Lebanon before the Arabs came. It is very common to be Arab and have lots of ancestors, that are not Arab. I know this isn't exactly parallel but it's kind of like you can be say, African American, and not ALL of your ancestors are from Africa.
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I checked Black. That doesn't mean I'm not proud of my heritage, but I know my identity.

It was my understanding that the very concept of considering oneself a Black American took into account our history (rather past or current) of admixtures whether through rape or consentual relationships. If I remember correctly from a class I took that included the "Genetics of Race", the average Black person in the U.S. has approximately 25% Caucasian genes.
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Arabs are originally from Asia.

People from Morocco are descendent of the indigenous African peoples, e.g. Berbers, who were already there when the Arabs arrived. As well as them, there are people imported from other parts of Africa as slaves (places as distant and distinct as Ethiopia and what is now Nigeria, for example).

There is also some European influence from the French colonizers as well as some Muslim Spanish that were banished to Morocco and other Maghreb countries, when the Moor occupation of Spain was overthrown.

Not saying that everyone has every single ancestry I just mentioned but the country's background is a lot more diverse and complicated than your simple answer would have people believe.
Good points - Arabs are definitely a mix of Asian, African and European. I took QueenConverse's answer to mean that we don't slot easily into any of the racial classifications used in the US (I'm of North African origin and ticked Other as well).
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