Help! Puppy won't sleep @ night! & other problems...

So the new puppy has been here 2 nights. NONE of us have gotten any sleep either night. The puppy yaps, whines, barks ALL night long. Seriously, he didn't stop for more than 5 minutes! I don't see how he can keep that up all night at 4 months old.

We have him confined in the kitchen when we're home, he's fine most of the time. Goes to the door to go out, no accidents in the crate at night. But he doesn't usually go into the crate during the day, not on his own. Since he is put in the crate at night only, he doesn't like it much. He won't sleep at all.

I hear mixed reviews on putting the crate in our bedroom at night. Should I? Will that help, or make it worse in the long run?

With my other 2 dogs before him (separately), they stayed in the crate at night in the kitchen. Never really left the kitchen except to go outside. No problems. This one is another matter. I'm thinking part of it is that the other 2 were from a shelter, each caged separately, found as strays. This one was found with his mom and a litter of 8, and has been in a foster home with them all since. His mom got adopted a month ago, the pups have gone one by one, but he was still left with 3 littermates. I think he gets too lonely.

Also, the foster had a pen inside the house with a doggy door to the outside, and they were allowed to go in/out all day *and* night. I'm thinking he slept in the heat of the day and played all night!

So, do I move the crate to the bedroom? Try to tough it out in the kitchen? We're trying to keep him awake most of today so he's tired at night. Should I try Rescue Remedy at bedtime? Or Comfort Zone?

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Last edited by CurliLocks; 09-15-2009 at 09:52 PM. Reason: more problems
He needs to be crate trained. This involves him being comfortable in it while everyone is home, not just at night.
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I'm such an enabler. Whenever I've had puppies, they have slept in the bed with me. There's nothing like a puppy snuggling up to you at night. This is what they are use to. Maybe try a stuffed animal and a clock ticking.

I've never had an animal I had to have crated. This is why I don't have an animal now. I'm not home during the day and most weekends.
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I'd just let him cry. He'll get tired of it eventually...probably just another night or two. I'd probably also crate him a bit during the day. I'd give him a treat every time he goes in the crate, along with the command (whatever word you decide to use...I used "kennel"). I make going-in-the-crate one of the dogs "jobs", and if he performs well, he gets a treat and words of praise.

I'm not a fan of crates in the bedroom (but I'm not a fan of kids in my bed either, so there you go), so I'd keep his crate in the kitchen or wherever you've decided to keep it.

I hope you're working on training him during the day, not just playing. He's already 4 months old, and the sooner he learns basic commands, the better.
I think you really just need to tough it out - it's only been 2 nights, eventhough I know it seems like an eternity to you and your family. He'll get the idea before long and then you'll be glad you didn't cave.
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I did put a ticking clock next to the crate last night. Tried lights on/off (nightlight). I just don't know if I can handle another sleepless night. I'm going to try the Rescue Remedy tonight since I have it on hand. He has toys in there, and a nylabone to chew. He is currently sleeping on the throw rug in front of the crate door.

He's good during the day, when I can see him. I leave him out when I leave the room. I'm afraid if I leave him loose at night he'd destroy the kitchen (incl chewing on the new cabinets!). I know we need to spend more time getting him used to the crate, need to get some tasty treats.

Outside, *everything* goes in the mouth. He has to be watched constantly, as we have a garden (flower and veg) full of potentially poisonous plants.

I'm starting to think this was a mistake, sad to say. He's much more of a handful than other pups we've had. My first guy was raised in this house, same yard and plants, no problems. AAaargh!

So, I'll leave the crate in the kitchen tonight, but we did clear an area behind the bed for the crate in case we need to drag it in there overnight. I did sleep on the couch the first night for a few hours, but he woke up soon after I left. He can be sound asleep, and if you walk oer to peek, he wakes right up! The ears!

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Definitely crate train him. This is a helpful website on crate training. He is a puppy and isn't used to the crate, you can't expect him to be perfectly fine with it without training him to be.
Make sure he gets plenty of exercise during the day, including a walk.
As for putting the crate in your bedroom, that is totally up to you.
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Last edited by Curls=Beauty; 09-13-2009 at 03:56 PM.
Make sure he is spending lots of time in the crate during the day. It needs to be his safe place, not just where he goes at night.

Try the clock and a stuffy, or a radio on a talk channel on low.

A blanket over the crate worked with one of our puppies, she wouldn't make a peep till that blanket came off.

I wouldn't be moving the crate around, he needs consistency at this point.

If you have a puppy pen, or can your hands on one, you can set it up off the end of the crate. That way the puppy is still enclosed and out of trouble, but has so area to roam.

We had something like this set up, but the crate opened up into it at one end....



If he is used to being in a pen where he can come and go, this is all new to him and will just take some time for everyone to get settled.

Good luck
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need to get some tasty treats.
Originally Posted by CurliLocks


Have you got some hotdogs in your freezer? Take a hotdog and cut it into about 50 pieces...really small. Put them on a paper plate and put in the microwave for a few minutes. The goal is to cook the hotdog pieces til they are hard and without moisture...tiny hard nuggets. Cool and store in a small plastic container. Dogs go apesh1t over these little nibbles and you won't fill him up so he can't eat his regular dinner.
I wonder if he is upset because he is not in the crate except at night. I worked 1 block from home when I got Casey so he was in his crate during the day (in the beginning) and at night. I never had complaints that he was howling or barking (I lived in an apartment) during the day and I know he did not at night. I kept him downstairs as well. I had also heard the blanket over the crate trick. I am willing to bet you are right - he is lonely without his littermates. Maybe try putting on a radio at night in the kitchen too....real low...I did that with Casey during the day-not sure if it helped or not but I did put on talk radio so he 'heard' voices. I feel your pain-Casey was so easy-I am scared to get another dog even though I keep thinking about getting another one.

I babysat for a lab that was 10 weeks old at one point-he was not a good sleeper-that was a long week but he actually got better near the end because I never took him out when he was awake at night. And I took him for a 2 mile walk every night.
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Last edited by cakj99; 04-27-2010 at 09:28 PM.
I could not crate train my dogs, the crying stressed me out sooo much, and one puppy would poop in the crate and then had to have a bath every morning at 6am. SO I just took him to bed with me and 3 years later he's still there.. Good luck, I just can't take the crying, but then again my kids slept with me too....
Definitely crate train him. This is a helpful website on crate training. He is a puppy and isn't used to the crate, you can't expect him to be perfectly fine with it without training him to be.
Make sure he gets plenty of exercise during the day, including a walk.
As for putting the crate in your bedroom, that is totally up to you.
Originally Posted by Curls=Beauty
We play with him a lot out back, but he can't go for walks until he gets his last DHLLP(?) shot and rabies shot. He'll be 4 months in 2 weeks.

Thanks for the link, I'm not sure if I saw that one in my searching. We always wait for him to settle down before letting him out at night, and only to potty and go back inside. We don't use it to punish him at all, and try not to stuff him in and slam the door! But no matter how tired he seems, he wakes up and barks all night.


need to get some tasty treats.
Originally Posted by CurliLocks
Have you got some hotdogs in your freezer? Take a hotdog and cut it into about 50 pieces...really small. Put them on a paper plate and put in the microwave for a few minutes. The goal is to cook the hotdog pieces til they are hard and without moisture...tiny hard nuggets. Cool and store in a small plastic container. Dogs go apesh1t over these little nibbles and you won't fill him up so he can't eat his regular dinner.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
I'll have to try that. Hopefully, the hotdog won't upset his tummy, he's only been on the one food and we kept that the same. Off to find a hotdog.

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Good luck tonight!
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Good luck tonight!
Originally Posted by xcptnl
Thanks! We'll try more tricks tonight, and the hotdog for a bit now to get him in there more during the day.

Of course, he's sleeping like an angel right now -- must wake him up so he's tired at bedtime!

We need all the good luck we can get tonight! Son has school tomorrow! Hubby has work, but he's the only one that is sleeping thru most of the noise.

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When I got my dog (the love of my whole entire life) going on 18 years ago (yikes), we used this book to get us started:
http://www.amazon.com/Mother-Knows-B...883501&sr=8-44

Crate training is really a good idea with a puppy. With our pooch, it was his home. He went there when things got too hectic with company over, if there were noisy kids in the house, if he felt stressed out for whatever reason. He loved his crate. It was his den.

We kept his crate in the bedroom, so I could attend to him easily in the night. At four months, your little guy is probably able to "hold it" all night at this point, but if he needs to go out you'll be able to hear his "out" whine and take him out before he wakes up the whole family. We had a number of soft cuddly (quiet) toys that were always in the crate, and those were his bed time friends.

Overall, crate training worked out really well for us. Do some reading, and don't give up. Puppies are an awful lot like kids, and if you give in once, they'll test you forever, hoping you'll give in again. Be strong!!
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Originally Posted by CurliLocks
Isn't that always the way??
3a on top and sides, 3b underneath in the back, and 2-something in front. What a mess....

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I used the same type of crate , even the same way u have CurlyCanadian for my lil chihuahua when she was a puppy, shes 4 now. Those are the best crates compared to just a carry crate that u use to travel with. It does take a while to crate train a puppy unless the are use to being crated at nite or during the day. My lil chihauhua was use to being crated at nite and day since she was with her siblings. Plus since she was the runt of the litter i didnt want her to get outside the doggy door so i crated her and hour or so if i was away and she was perfectly fine , no crying. She slepted with me during the nites tho. My sister has 2 labs and her first one was easier to take to crate training cuz she came from a breeder that trained her . Her other lab took some time cuz he was from another family that couldnt handle him anymore and gave him to my sister so of course he was much more harder to crate train . He cryed at nite alot for about a week in a half or so and then was able to sleep thru the nite. Lotts of toys , even a blanket to snuggle with in the dog bed. I used a lil pup pal that i warmed up for my chihuahua and it kepted her warm and she fell alsleep much faster.
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Oh, I forgot that we also used a regular doggie bed inside the crate. It was rectangular, so it fit the shape of the crate, and made it nice and cozy in there for him.
3a on top and sides, 3b underneath in the back, and 2-something in front. What a mess....

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He has an old soft blanket in there, folded in 4 so it's very fluffy!
I just found this: http://www.petco.com/Shop/Product.as...sultRedirect=1
Is that like you used tinycurlyd? Petco has them in stock, maybe he'll feel better with a warm cratemate. Off to buy one now!

I tried the hotdog and got him in and out a few times. I'll work on longer times thru the rest of the day (and this week), and hope for the best tonight.

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