Would you do this for $8/hr? [rant] - Long

She should quit - TODAY! Seriously she could work at the Gap for more than $8/hour. What about working for a temp agency until the baby comes, that definitely would pay more.

Cleaning and taking care of the kids is one thing, although $8 is still way too low for 4 kids, but expecting your sister to be their teacher on top of it - insane. Who was teaching them before your sister took over?
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She should quit..now...

This woman is taking advantage of your sister..
She should quit - TODAY! Seriously she could work at the Gap for more than $8/hour. What about working for a temp agency until the baby comes, that definitely would pay more.

Cleaning and taking care of the kids is one thing, although $8 is still way too low for 4 kids, but expecting your sister to be their teacher on top of it - insane. Who was teaching them before your sister took over?
Originally Posted by Jenny C
K was taking care of her own kids and doing her husband's business paperwork from home before my sister came along. My sister & I both made way more money than $8 when we had our "sister act" babysitting business in high school... I'm really hoping and praying that she will a) get her husband on the same page as her, and b) set up a time for the both of them to go talk to K and either start being payed a lot more, or quit. I think she's probably worried about bad feelings between her and her new family members.
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10 to 13 hours a day! No way!

When I was preggo with my 1st I worked full time at an easy retail job and I was exhausted. I don't even see how she's doing all that. I made $8.50 an hour at that easy job...10 years ago! She is getting completely taken advantage of. I'm sorry for her. I can imagine how hard it could be for her to even bring it up with her SIL. Ugh...
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She should quit - TODAY! Seriously she could work at the Gap for more than $8/hour. What about working for a temp agency until the baby comes, that definitely would pay more.

Cleaning and taking care of the kids is one thing, although $8 is still way too low for 4 kids, but expecting your sister to be their teacher on top of it - insane. Who was teaching them before your sister took over?
Originally Posted by Jenny C
K was taking care of her own kids and doing her husband's business paperwork from home before my sister came along. My sister & I both made way more money than $8 when we had our "sister act" babysitting business in high school... I'm really hoping and praying that she will a) get her husband on the same page as her, and b) set up a time for the both of them to go talk to K and either start being payed a lot more, or quit. I think she's probably worried about bad feelings between her and her new family members.
Originally Posted by OperaCurls
Well K doesn't seem to be concerned about bad feelings by taking advantage of your sister. She's the one in the wrong here, but I can understand how your sister feels.

She doesn't have to quit with a big F-you to K. She can say something like, 'I'm not a certified teacher and I really don't feel qualified to teach your children. It's just too much for me right now, so I'm going to have to resign'.

At this point money isn't even the issue because K is a bloodsucker and not someone she should work for, even if they quadrupled her salary. One person really can't be a teacher, nanny and a maid.
If you got nothing to bring to the table - don't even bother sitting down.
She needs to quit. Now. That's Dickensian drudgery. This brother's wife is a disgusting piece of work. If your sister can't stand up to her, the job's not worth $20/hour.
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It's plain ridiculous what they expect her to do!

It'd want near $25/hour for all of that!
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When I was reading this, I kept thinking, "How is this happening?? How?"

This is beyond abusive behavior. That was clear with the parts about accusing her of lying and of the threat to lower her wage...that is clear psychological abuse and intimidation. I may sound extreme but seriously, how else would you classify it? Oh yeah, being a complete witch.

It's easy to say that she should just speak up but coming from a large Arab family where my parents are both the youngest on their side, I totally understand that it isn't always that easy to speak up to your older siblings...even if my parents are now in their sixties...but that's another story...

It will be very hard for your brother-in-law to say anything, even if he completely agrees with your sister. So maybe taking the approach of saying she just isn't feeling well or pretending the doctor told her not to work would be her only way out here.

I know it sounds shady or passive aggressive but the important thing here is to get your sister out of that situation ASAP!! If directness doesn't work, then lie! I am actually concerned about your sister's health and that of the baby. She is being worked too hard!!

And Opera, how are you doing? I have two sisters and I know how hard it is to watch your sister suffer...it's worse than having something happen to you and it can make you feel so helpless. Just stick by her side and patiently (very hard for me to do) support her as she gets out of this situation.

Good luck!!
. One person really can't be a teacher, nanny and a maid.
Originally Posted by Jenny C

Sure they can. They're called "MOM"

WTF....$8 an hour isn't even minimum wage!?!?!? Then to top it all off, she can't even take a day off if she is sick. Dayum.....even illegals get paid more than that!!!

You sister needs to stop this madness and quit. TODAY!
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. One person really can't be a teacher, nanny and a maid.
Originally Posted by Jenny C

Sure they can. They're called "MOM"

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That was clear with the parts about accusing her of lying and of the threat to lower her wage...that is clear psychological abuse and intimidation. I may sound extreme but seriously, how else would you classify it?
You're spot on.
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How many hours a day is she working?

Around 10 - 13 hours a day, Monday thru Friday.

ETA: I don't know if she's expected to keep working towards the end of the pregnancy and after the baby is born. I sure hope not. She's been very sick on-and-off since she got pregnant.
Originally Posted by OperaCurls

Sounds to me like she already qualifies for OVERTIME. Seriously, this situation wouldn't come up in a normal, for lack of better words, regulated workplace. And how is she even qualified to homeschool 4 kids? There's a ton of work that goes into that, let alone also being the maid...these are questionable people at best who are really abusing this situation if not your sister herself. Get out!
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Can she come to my house? I would pay her that to clean my bathrooms, kitchen and do my floors and no kids and we are pretty darn neat to boot!! Man, that is totally unreasonable. I would suggest she let her husband know this is not working out and that she is going to quit. Just so he is in the loop. Like others said you could work at any part time job for that amount of $ and have less hours and less stress.
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Can she come to my house? I would pay her that to clean my bathrooms, kitchen and do my floors and no kids and we are pretty darn neat to boot!! Man, that is totally unreasonable. I would suggest she let her husband know this is not working out and that she is going to quit. Just so he is in the loop. Like others said you could work at any part time job for that amount of $ and have less hours and less stress.
Originally Posted by xcptnl
yeah same. i'd take her twice a week please. and doing my laundry - dear lord SEND HER NOW!!!
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Can she come to my house? I would pay her that to clean my bathrooms, kitchen and do my floors and no kids and we are pretty darn neat to boot!! Man, that is totally unreasonable. I would suggest she let her husband know this is not working out and that she is going to quit. Just so he is in the loop. Like others said you could work at any part time job for that amount of $ and have less hours and less stress.
Originally Posted by xcptnl
yeah same. i'd take her twice a week please. and doing my laundry - dear lord SEND HER NOW!!!
Originally Posted by Sleigh
Oh, yeah, add in the laundry for me too! Two days a week should cover me too.

But, seriously, this shows how much she is being taken advantage of when you have others that would just want the housecleaning part and know she is a deal and a 1/2!!
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Can she come to my house? I would pay her that to clean my bathrooms, kitchen and do my floors and no kids and we are pretty darn neat to boot!! Man, that is totally unreasonable. I would suggest she let her husband know this is not working out and that she is going to quit. Just so he is in the loop. Like others said you could work at any part time job for that amount of $ and have less hours and less stress.
Originally Posted by xcptnl
yeah same. i'd take her twice a week please. and doing my laundry - dear lord SEND HER NOW!!!
Originally Posted by Sleigh
Oh, yeah, add in the laundry for me too! Two days a week should cover me too.

But, seriously, this shows how much she is being taken advantage of when you have others that would just want the housecleaning part and know she is a deal and a 1/2!!
Originally Posted by xcptnl
I just want her one day a week, no kid watching involved, and I'll pay her $15 an hour.

I know here in Cali costs are high so take that in to account but I was looking at after school programs at the Y and for full time was $500 a week per kid. I just did a little search on Craigslist and the cheapest part time nanny I found was $10 an hour with light cleaning for more. Shows you how little your sis is making for all she does.
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yeah same. i'd take her twice a week please. and doing my laundry - dear lord SEND HER NOW!!!
Originally Posted by Sleigh
Oh, yeah, add in the laundry for me too! Two days a week should cover me too.

But, seriously, this shows how much she is being taken advantage of when you have others that would just want the housecleaning part and know she is a deal and a 1/2!!
Originally Posted by xcptnl
I just want her one day a week, no kid watching involved, and I'll pay her $15 an hour.

I know here in Cali costs are high so take that in to account but I was looking at after school programs at the Y and for full time was $500 a week per kid. I just did a little search on Craigslist and the cheapest part time nanny I found was $10 an hour with light cleaning for more. Shows you how little your sis is making for all she does.
Originally Posted by Jess the Mess
You ladies are too funny! Maybe her & I could start a business and just fly all over the country to people's houses... I'm a really good babysitter/house cleaner, too!

But, in all seriousness, I've kinda been kept out of the loop this week. Sister isn't returning my texts, calls, or e-mails, but that's not much out of the ordinary, and hell, she's pretty busy!!! But, from what I heard from mom this week, she said she "talked with K," but refused to answer specific questions and wouldn't actually say how the conversation went or how/if anything has changed. Knowing my sister, this probably means that she tried bringing up the unfairness of the situation and was cowed back into doing things K's way. I'm tempted to make the 3-hour drive to her place right now and end the whole stupid situation... this is ridiculous.
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Oh, yeah, add in the laundry for me too! Two days a week should cover me too.

But, seriously, this shows how much she is being taken advantage of when you have others that would just want the housecleaning part and know she is a deal and a 1/2!!
Originally Posted by xcptnl
I just want her one day a week, no kid watching involved, and I'll pay her $15 an hour.

I know here in Cali costs are high so take that in to account but I was looking at after school programs at the Y and for full time was $500 a week per kid. I just did a little search on Craigslist and the cheapest part time nanny I found was $10 an hour with light cleaning for more. Shows you how little your sis is making for all she does.
Originally Posted by Jess the Mess
You ladies are too funny! Maybe her & I could start a business and just fly all over the country to people's houses... I'm a really good babysitter/house cleaner, too!

But, in all seriousness, I've kinda been kept out of the loop this week. Sister isn't returning my texts, calls, or e-mails, but that's not much out of the ordinary, and hell, she's pretty busy!!! But, from what I heard from mom this week, she said she "talked with K," but refused to answer specific questions and wouldn't actually say how the conversation went or how/if anything has changed. Knowing my sister, this probably means that she tried bringing up the unfairness of the situation and was cowed back into doing things K's way. I'm tempted to make the 3-hour drive to her place right now and end the whole stupid situation... this is ridiculous.
Originally Posted by OperaCurls
While I would go drive to see her I'd say something like "I need a week with my sister" and let K see what she is missing. Maybe she would change her tune.
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How about you get her to read this thread? Maybe that will show her how much support she has behind her and make her realise how much she is being taken for granted.

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