Would you do this for $8/hr? [rant] - Long

Okay, so my sister, got married this summer and moved to where her husband's job for his older brother is, about 2 hours away. She is 6 months pregnant and wanted to have her own income of some sort before the baby comes, so the oldest brother's wife, K, offered to pay her to clean the house & watch K's kids during the week while K works. This arrangement was made about a month ago, when the kids were on summer vacation. My sister is being payed $8 per hour.

Sounds pretty good, right? Well, things have changed over time and now my poor sister is feeling completely overwhelmed and taken advantage of. Here is what's now going on:

* The family no longer cleans up after themselves in the evening after my sister leaves; as in, dishes and laundry not getting done, sitting in piles waiting for her the next day. This happens over the weekend too and it's just a mess.
* Turns out K's 4 kids are home schooled, so my sister has to do that in addition to her other chores.
* K wants the kids to be responsible for cleaning their own messes, but when my sister holds them accountable for that, they complain to K that night that they had to do ALL of the chores, and K believes them because she thinks that she has raised honest, hardworking kids.
* These kids are messy! My sister cleans up their messes as they go, but it's impossible for things to be spotlessly clean when K gets home, & K thinks that my sister isn't doing her job. (which is ridiculous - I've seen the way these people live and my sister's standard of cleanliness is MUCH higher than theirs!)

My sister had the flu last week and asked K if she could hire one of her other babysitters for just one day so my sister could recuperate. Instead of being understanding, K told my sister that if she was unable to do the work, then she would reduce her rate to $6 per hour to take care of the kids & home school them, and not do the house work. Come on??! Seriously? She's 6 months pregnant! And she would STILL have to clean the kitchen and the living room all day just so she could feed the kids and make sure the littlest one wasn't going to pick something up off the floor and eat it.

Is this woman being totally unreasonable, or am I biased in favor of my sister? I think she's being underpaid and taken advantage of, and she's too timid to speak up to K and tell her that something needs to change. If it were me, I'd quit. Especially after being accused of being a liar because the kids were whining about clearing the table after lunch. Ugh.
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I think it's horrid!

New husband should step in.
Completely and utterly unreasonable. Clean house for $8? Sure. Babysit for $8? Sure. One or the other, not both. And not all the other crap.
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Sounds like she has a nanny type job (they clean too right?). I'm pretty sure they get paid way more than double of what she's getting
I didn't even have to read the extra circumstances that erupted out of this.

I don't think $8 an hour is fair for someone to be watching your kids, and cleaning your house for the week.

Working for family, in any aspect, does not work. TRUST ME.

Doing favors for someone because you want to help them doesn't often work out either. Inevitably, someone feels put out, someone gets used, etc, etc, in the end there is a bad relationship because people really wanted to help eachother out.

Work is work. Family is family. Friends are friends. Never the 'twain shall meet.
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I didn't even have to read the extra circumstances that erupted out of this.

I don't think $8 an hour is fair for someone to be watching your kids, and cleaning your house for the week.

Working for family, in any aspect, does not work. TRUST ME.

Doing favors for someone because you want to help them doesn't often work out either. Inevitably, someone feels put out, someone gets used, etc, etc, in the end there is a bad relationship because people really wanted to help eachother out.

Work is work. Family is family. Friends are friends. Never the 'twain shall meet.
Originally Posted by iroc
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She needs to quit!!!!

I had a similar thing happen to me when I was younger. Working for relatives is the pitts.
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She is not getting paid nearly enough- from what Im reading your sister now has 3 jobs:

-cleaning the house
-babysitting the kids
-homeschooling the kids

Her pay should be tripled at least- and she needs to give ground rules. They are treating her like a slave. She should stand up for herself- she what she will and wont do, and she is entitled to days off and sick leave-particularly as she's pregnant.
I didn't even have to read the extra circumstances that erupted out of this.

I don't think $8 an hour is fair for someone to be watching your kids, and cleaning your house for the week.

Working for family, in any aspect, does not work. TRUST ME.

Doing favors for someone because you want to help them doesn't often work out either. Inevitably, someone feels put out, someone gets used, etc, etc, in the end there is a bad relationship because people really wanted to help eachother out.

Work is work. Family is family. Friends are friends. Never the 'twain shall meet.
Originally Posted by iroc
ITA with everything you said, but I really love the bolded statement! Sis's husband is the youngest of 7 boys and they ALL work for the family business, as do most of the wives. I really liked K when I met her, and she has an incredible work ethic, but she has unrealistic expectations of other people when it comes to finishing tasks. This woman is a work horse!

I think it's horrid!

New husband should step in.
Originally Posted by ninja dog
Yeah...

She is not getting paid nearly enough- from what Im reading your sister now has 3 jobs:

-cleaning the house
-babysitting the kids
-homeschooling the kids

Her pay should be tripled at least- and she needs to give ground rules. They are treating her like a slave. She should stand up for herself- she what she will and wont do, and she is entitled to days off and sick leave-particularly as she's pregnant.
Originally Posted by kat180
Exactly. K seems to think that because my sister is now "family," she can make up whatever rules she wants.
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Is this woman being totally unreasonable, or am I biased in favor of my sister?
Probably a bit of both. But your sister has to be the one to say so, timid or not. Or maybe her husband can speak for her.

Edit:

Turns out K's 4 kids are home schooled, so my sister has to do that in addition to her other chores.
Wait...After reading other replies, I'm unclear...You mean YOUR SIS has to home school the kids? OK, that's ridiculous. Doesn't that require some type of preparation on her part? Reading the lessons beforehand, checking "homework," etc? Wow...not me. She's got to say something.
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Last edited by Phoenix; 09-19-2009 at 06:15 PM.
They are really taking advantage of her. I would not want that much responsibility even if I were paid enough money. She still has to take care of her own household. Were will she get the energy from? They should only work her a few days a week, and pay her 4 times the amount that she is currently making.
Your sister should quit. The $8 an hour to work in that H3LL is not worth her own physical and mental health. I hope your sis puts herself first and tells K to stuff the cheap wage. The workload is abusive vs. the wage.
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HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!! She should be paid like $25-$30 for all that responsibility!!!!! Talk about being taken advantaged of that's just horrible! She needs to leave ASAP and not feel bad about it. She just needs to say that she is preggers and needs to take it easy and that she is utterly exhausted...The nerve of these people shame on them!
So they hired her to clean their house, and once she agreed they said, "Oh by the way, you have to homeschool our children while you're at it"?

Yeah, NO. That's insane. She needs to set some ground rules at the very least, but I'd recommend quitting, sooner or later. Once her baby is born she's not going to be able to devote that much time to her in-laws' family anyway. They might as well get used to it now.
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No, no, no way!!! She's supposed to be a nanny for 4 kids, homeschool them, clean the house (which the family have stopped doing routine chores in) for $8 a hour??!!! Ridiculous. I pay more than that for my two kids to be watched at an in-home daycare, where I take the kids to her and she doesn't have to travel, there's no housework or homeschooling duties, and I live in a cheap part of the country, and I have a good deal with our daycare provider.

How has this family been homeschooling their kids if the mom works? What are they planning to do when your sister has the baby and is on maternity leave? The whole situation sounds effed up to me.
These people are taking advantage of your sister.
1)Even if you hire a cleaning service, you are expected to pick up your mess, so the service can get to the cleaning. Otherwise there is a charge for that as well.
2) Teaching children to pick up after themselves is teaching life skills, the parents should be appreciative of your sister's efforts and encourage them.
3) Homeschooling is the parent's responsibility. If they don't want to do it, then they should be paying for a tutor, or private school. A nanny would drive them to school or lessons.
4) I can't for the life of me understand how or why they would want some one with the flu to be responsible for four young children.
5) $8 per hour is no where near the going rate for any of these jobs. If these people have such a good work ethic, they also should appreciate that an employee deserves to be paid a fair wage.

I'm sure there is more...but I don't care if they are family...she should cut this off now before the baby arrives and they expect this nonsense to continue as she cares for her own child.
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I pay my 18yo babysitter $7 an hour if my 2 kids are up and $5 if they are in bed. He isn't required to cook or clean (although he cleans any messes they made together on his own). She is doing ENTIRELY to much for so little.

How many hours a day is she working? Will she work until the baby comes? She might not even be able to handle all that at the end of her pregnancy.
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I pay my 18yo babysitter $7 an hour if my 2 kids are up and $5 if they are in bed. He isn't required to cook or clean (although he cleans any messes they made together on his own). She is doing ENTIRELY to much for so little.

How many hours a day is she working? Will she work until the baby comes? She might not even be able to handle all that at the end of her pregnancy.
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Around 10 - 13 hours a day, Monday thru Friday.

ETA: I don't know if she's expected to keep working towards the end of the pregnancy and after the baby is born. I sure hope not. She's been very sick on-and-off since she got pregnant.
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Last edited by OperaCurls; 09-19-2009 at 06:12 PM.
No way. $8 an hour isn't even minimum wage! I'd quit and let K find out what the going rate for all that work really is. Housecleaners alone cost $20-$25 an hour.

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