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10-09-2009, 02:01 PM
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It seems that it did somewhat increase good will toward America. I don't have any solid evidence to base that on, but it looks like the worldwide media reaction was generally favorable.
Some outright nasty people have won the Nobel Peace Prize. Again, it's used as encouragement.
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10-09-2009, 02:06 PM
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It's meant to pressure recipients to live up to the award.
There's a lot of "politics" behind the various Nobel Prizes. I remember a few years ago, the head of the literature committee declared that an American would never win that prize in the near future, because Americans are stupid.
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10-09-2009, 02:13 PM
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So, by that logic, we should award the Pulitzer Prize to someone in hopes that they will one day write the world's best book? Or, perhaps we should award an actor The Oscar or a Tony Award to encourage a fabulous performance in their next movie or Broadway play? How about giving all students an A regardless of their performance, in hopes that one day they will live up to it??? Ridiculous.
Awards are supposed to be based on tangible results.
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10-09-2009, 02:23 PM
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I posted this on the other Noble thread
According to Wiki the Prize should be awarded "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses"
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10-09-2009, 02:36 PM
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I think a grade is pretty different from an award. A grade is based on performance. An award can be based on pretty much anything. I know that I won a "thanks for participating" award when I was seven years old and played in a soccer league.
Also, I don't know much about the Pullitzers, but the Oscars and Tonys are primarily about promoting an industry. There are few American theatrical productions each year that are elligible for the Tonys. And I don't know who thinks that The Return of the King was really the best American film that year.
I agree that a Nobel peace prize doesn't inherently mean much. I just kind of get the feeling that you think Obama was singled out for special treatment. Maybe I'm wrong, though. I don't want to put words in your mouth.
Last edited by Eilonwy; 10-09-2009 at 03:17 PM.
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10-09-2009, 02:39 PM
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wow...
I don't know what else to say.
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10-09-2009, 02:43 PM
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Uh...Is that directed at my post, or at Obama's award?
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10-09-2009, 03:00 PM
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If they're giving out Nobel Peace Prizes for "NOT BEING GEORGE BUSH" then I want one! Where's my prize!!!! 
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10-09-2009, 03:12 PM
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I am the new Black.
"HIV is a complex mother. Trust me I've written multiple papers and even a rap song about it." Murrcat aka Turtles
"Hope the Mail are saving space tomorrow for Samantha Brick's reaction piece on the reactions to her piece about the reactions to her piece." ~ Tweet reposted by Rou.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Kimshi4242
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10-09-2009, 04:05 PM
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Yasser Arafat fought for the liberation of the Palestinian people from Israeli occupation. Just saying. Why don't we call it "terrorism" when Israelis use white phosophorous on Palestinian civilians, for example?
Sure, he's a big ole terrorist. Just like all of those other brown people, right? 
+1
I totally agree. But I especially feel that a President who condones torture is undeserving of this award.
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10-09-2009, 04:06 PM
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10-09-2009, 05:47 PM
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Yah.. me too. 
I'm not George Bush, and "peace and goodwill towards men (and women)".
Pay me.
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10-09-2009, 06:35 PM
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Actually,. Hitler was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize in 1939
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10-09-2009, 06:47 PM
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*sigh*
First of all, nomination does not equal winning.
Second of all, this:
source
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10-09-2009, 06:49 PM
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It was meant as a joke/lighthearted comment. Not any sort of an argument comparing obama to hitler or something 
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10-09-2009, 06:52 PM
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My take on the larger question …
I was surprised to learn of this this morning.
We have an unusually large plate of heavy issues to deal with right now — nationally, globally.
Obama — like it or not — is going to be key as to how well we emerge from this crucial period.
If this boosts him in those efforts, then I'm glad.
I wish people who wanted him to fail would realize that if he fails, we all do. And that this is always true of all of us, all the time.
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10-09-2009, 06:54 PM
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Please forgive me.
Are you aware that there are people making that comparison currently? That is why I took your comment seriously.
That and, well, it's the internet. No nonverbals — 90% of communication.
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10-09-2009, 07:17 PM
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I think Obama does deserve points for getting elected and, more to the point, for how he ran his campaign. He changed the predominant tone of campaign discourse and, by winning, showed that one can get elected with a more diplomatic, inclusive, non-"us and them" way of viewing the world. People may disagree as to whether that deserves a Nobel Peace Prize.... but I think I understand it.
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10-09-2009, 08:25 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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i think its the international communities' big middle finger to Bush and his administration.
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10-10-2009, 03:07 AM
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What's with all of the "we"? WE didn't give this award anymore than WE award Pulizters or Oscars. A committe did and will in the future. My first response "for what?". But I'm not angry or critical of the decision. Even Obama acknowledged surprise.
The next big issue is going to be which charity gets the money.
All to one charity? Selfish
He could give half to St Judes and half to another children's charity but that ignores veterans. Give to vets and you're dissing animal rights concerns.
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