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Old 10-20-2009, 09:02 AM   #61
 
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Im sorry but I do find it scary how many people walking alongside you in various countries are more than likely have a deadly weapon on their person be it gun or stun gun. Im not sure that it makes anyone particularly safer.
LOL- hyperbolic much? In the US, your average person on the street isn't "more than likely" carrying around a deadly weapon. The vast majority of us don't even own a weapon deadlier than a butcher's knife, and the overwhelming majority certainly do not carry anything on their person. I'm not denying that we have more than our fair share of gun-nuts in this country, and yes, they freak me out too. But try not to let the loonies and the media, or whatever, convince you that most of us are walking around packing heat in our purse, LOL.

Sorry that was meant to be 'more likely' not 'more than likely'.
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what do your police carry????
Clubs! They carry big sticks for beating on "tikes" and the like.
hehe, actually they predominently do. many a time have I had my ankles whacked by a grumpy police-folk with a baton while I was trying to watch the street parade from the comfort of the top of a bus stop ;o)
They might have guns... seems silly for them not to... but we dont really have a gun culture over here. crime yes. violence. hooligans. beatings. bottles. knives. all yes. but for some reason guns are a bit of a rarity. which is something I cant say Im wholly aggreived by. lol
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Old 10-20-2009, 09:34 AM   #63
 
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My husband has a Glock 22 (.40 cal) as his duty weapon. I've been looking at the Glock 23 for myself when I have some free money in the budget again. His is always loaded and always by his side. I'd probably make him store it in a locking cabinet if we ever decide to have kids. It'd be nice to go to the range on the weekends with my husband to get some target practice in.
We have a model 22. I wanted a 23 but my husband thought it was too small for his hand and he wanted to shoot it also. A 23 is such a comfortable fit for women who and our smaller hands. But it still packs the punch of a 40 caliber! Someday I may get my 23...
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Im sorry but I do find it scary how many people walking alongside you in various countries are more than likely have a deadly weapon on their person be it gun or stun gun. Im not sure that it makes anyone particularly safer.
LOL- hyperbolic much? In the US, your average person on the street isn't "more than likely" carrying around a deadly weapon. The vast majority of us don't even own a weapon deadlier than a butcher's knife, and the overwhelming majority certainly do not carry anything on their person. I'm not denying that we have more than our fair share of gun-nuts in this country, and yes, they freak me out too. But try not to let the loonies and the media, or whatever, convince you that most of us are walking around packing heat in our purse, LOL.

Sorry that was meant to be 'more likely' not 'more than likely'.
Ok- that makes quite a difference!
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Old 10-20-2009, 09:46 AM   #65
 
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Last time I went to Florida to visit my sister my BIL took me trap shooting, and it was AWESOME! There's something very satisfying about shooting at a small moving object. It was like playing a new game, I was determined to learn it and do well. I can't wait to do it again.

That said, I have no interest whatsoever in owning a gun. I know myself well enough to know that I'll be all over target shooting for a few months and then I'll stop and have this big expensive weapon taking up space. Also, I don't buy the "we need guns for safety because there's someone trying to rob/attack/rape/kill me at ever corner" argument. I have no problem with legal gun ownership, though.
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Jesus- you guys all scare me with how normal you find it to have guns and stun guns!!!!

If you have to keep ammo and the gun separate, then surely how much use it will be if someone breaks in is kinda mute at that point?

I don't think I could live in a country where it seems everyone has dangerous weapons on their person :S

I guess living and being raised here, I just don't get the whole its my right to have a gun thing.
Please ----spare us the whole "Oh, we're British and gentle and refined spiel." Your country has committed more violence with colonialism than most of the rest of the world combined.

Who said anything about Britain being 'gentle and refined'?????

I made no argument that one country was more violent than another. I said I find the concept of it being a right to own a gun strange and alien to me.

Im sorry but I do find it scary how many people walking alongside you in various countries are more than likely have a deadly weapon on their person be it gun or stun gun. Im not sure that it makes anyone particularly safer.

But feel free to get all defensive about it- no one else did.
For the record, a stun gun CANNOT kill you. A taser? Yes. Stun gun? No way. There is a difference between tasers and stun guns. Stun guns have low amps--high volts. Tasers have low volts, but high amps--and it's the amps that kill you. Not the volts.
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My husband has a Glock 22 (.40 cal) as his duty weapon. I've been looking at the Glock 23 for myself when I have some free money in the budget again. His is always loaded and always by his side. I'd probably make him store it in a locking cabinet if we ever decide to have kids. It'd be nice to go to the range on the weekends with my husband to get some target practice in.
We have a model 22. I wanted a 23 but my husband thought it was too small for his hand and he wanted to shoot it also. A 23 is such a comfortable fit for women who and our smaller hands. But it still packs the punch of a 40 caliber! Someday I may get my 23...
My husband wanted me to get the Glock 27, which is a lot smaller. I held it and it was too small for even my tiny hands. He wants to be able to have a weapon for concealed carry, but I'd like the 23
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I'm not a gun nut and if they decided to take all our guns away, I'd live. But I've been around guns most of my life and don't mind it. I can't shoot an animal, but those around me do and I reap the benefits. I'm a good shot and I love to shoot both guns and bow and arrow.
I currently own a little lhandgun, but I keep it at my dad's.
My dad, current beau, and 2 exes all carry concealed. As do a large portion of people around here. And believe you me, legal or not, many of them should NOT be carrying weapons.
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Ohh so they carry sticks!! New York's Finest BETTER carry a pow pow as much stuff that happens here.

I'd get a bb gun for the damned squirrels and raccoons and I'd have no shame. They tear up the garden and your roof something awful.
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Don't own a gun, technically. My boyfriend has a .22 rifle. He took me target shooting once in the country and I never missed!

My dad is a hunter, so I've been around all kinds of guns my whole life. Doesn't bother me.

What bothers me is something like this happening:

A man from my town found an intruder in his garage last week. He threatened the intruder with a baseball bat, then the intruder took it from him and brained him with it! The homeowner wasn't seriously hurt and the intruder was arrested, but man. Whacked in the head with your own weapon. It could have ended tragically.
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What bothers me is something like this happening:

A man from my town found an intruder in his garage last week. He threatened the intruder with a baseball bat, then the intruder took it from him and brained him with it! The homeowner wasn't seriously hurt and the intruder was arrested, but man. Whacked in the head with your own weapon. It could have ended tragically.
This more or less is my concern with the growing acceptance of guns and lethal weapons among the general population... As I previously expressed, its possible if eeeeveryone had a weapon and eeeeveryone was aware that everyone else had a weapon, manners might well be more stringently adhered to... but that raises the bar doesnt it. Now the "alpha male" in crazyland isnt the one waving the only gun in the room around... now hes the only one using it... whereas decent folk might well carry a weapon for "protection" in a soceity that encouraged it, but would quite likely not even consider using it even when under threat.

Im not trying to guilt anyone, by the way, I can totally see how you guys developed an interest in shooting since you have abundantly more outdoor space than the average english-person does (shooting indoors and in crowded built up areas is a little bit silly) but I doubt I will ever get my coddled british brain around the concept of these things being readily available. lol
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What bothers me is something like this happening:

A man from my town found an intruder in his garage last week. He threatened the intruder with a baseball bat, then the intruder took it from him and brained him with it! The homeowner wasn't seriously hurt and the intruder was arrested, but man. Whacked in the head with your own weapon. It could have ended tragically.
Lucky it was a baseball bat and not a gun that was taken off him! Scary stuff.
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I have no problem with legal gun ownership, though.
Yep.

My dad had guns when we were growing up and we learned to shoot rifles on camping trips. I'm not scared of guns or dislike them but I don't really feel a need to own one right now- or maybe ever. Not sure.

I've been to a few gun shows though. Those are very interesting and informative. And it's weird but I've never seen so many pregnant women in one place before.
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I haven't read most of the thread, so excuse me if I am answering something that has no bearing on the most recent conversations.

I have a few guns and I love shooting. Mind you, I never shot a gun until I met Curlyboy.

But I am a damn good shot!! hehehe...

I have...
a .357 6-shot pistol
a 10mm semi-auto pistol
a AK-15 (semi-auto) rifle
a black-powder muzzle loader 50cal rifle

I am actually going to go for my concealed weapons license and get certified for the 10mm.
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Ok, those that have a Glock, what do you have?
I think I wanna get something that both hubby & I can use
btw...we are both small folks...
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I don't have any guns, I'm not sure if I'd want to use/own one either, as there's too much danger of fatally hurting yourself or others (even if you know how to use one, if you panic you may forget your skills).

However I'm more than willing to let my hands, feet, knives, and/or my "big sticks" be self defense weapons. Both me and SO would like to learn how to use cross bows and arrows too. I'm one of those people who thinks that you should use the least amount of force necessary to defuse a violent confrontation. Of course if your life is in imminent danger, go all out..
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I have no problem with legal gun ownership, though.
Yep.

My dad had guns when we were growing up and we learned to shoot rifles on camping trips. I'm not scared of guns or dislike them but I don't really feel a need to own one right now- or maybe ever. Not sure.

I've been to a few gun shows though. Those are very interesting and informative. And it's weird but I've never seen so many pregnant women in one place before.


Ick.

(not the pregnancies, but the...mental associations I made)
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Where did you go to get your CHL? Some of the chicks from the class want to get together & do a ladies only thang.
Here is the place...name totally cracks me up!
http://www.hardlyangelschl.com/index.html
Also, how did you come to know the officer who has helped you?
I did check out Academy. They have a pretty good selection of goodies.
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i didn't do the chl class...just the basic/intro gun class. i went to www.topgunrange.com
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I have no problem with legal gun ownership, though.
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My dad had guns when we were growing up and we learned to shoot rifles on camping trips. I'm not scared of guns or dislike them but I don't really feel a need to own one right now- or maybe ever. Not sure.

I've been to a few gun shows though. Those are very interesting and informative. And it's weird but I've never seen so many pregnant women in one place before.
Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "shotgun wedding".
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