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curlypearl 09-07-2010 02:42 AM

Undereye circles
 
I have really dark undereye circles. What have you found that works best to disguise this? Have you found anything that makes them less dark? It's not from allergies - hereditary. My mom had them also.

rbb 09-07-2010 06:52 AM

ah, we are really getting into my territory here!! i also have dark circles, hereditary from my mom. i envy women who don't, they can easily go without makeup. just putting on concealer leaves a strange look, so then i just add a bit of concealer to my top lid, a little blush, and that is the best 'no makeup' look for me. of course, there are times i am totally without makeup, but that is mostly like a beach vacation!
the concealer i've found that works best for me (not perfect, just the best to date) is cle de peau. it is a little pricey, but it lasts forever!! truly. and it is creamy and stays on.
if you find something that is really good, let me know!
for a while i tried bobby brown primer for concealers, but that did not work as well.
oh, and, cle de peau also has a foundation primer that i add towards the outer ends of my under eye instead of the concealer all the way, and that helps diminish the look of the circles.

ShrekLover 09-07-2010 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rbb (Post 1463858)
ah, we are really getting into my territory here!! i also have dark circles, hereditary from my mom. i envy women who don't, they can easily go without makeup. just putting on concealer leaves a strange look, so then i just add a bit of concealer to my top lid, a little blush, and that is the best 'no makeup' look for me. of course, there are times i am totally without makeup, but that is mostly like a beach vacation!
the concealer i've found that works best for me (not perfect, just the best to date) is cle de peau. it is a little pricey, but it lasts forever!! truly. and it is creamy and stays on.
if you find something that is really good, let me know!
for a while i tried bobby brown primer for concealers, but that did not work as well.
oh, and, cle de peau also has a foundation primer that i add towards the outer ends of my under eye instead of the concealer all the way, and that helps diminish the look of the circles.

I use this primer (the one with the SPF 26) and use this Edward Bess concealer:

http://prostores4.megawebservers.com...LER/Detail.bok

This concealer is the best one I have ever used and I've even shelled out for the cle de peau concealer which is ridiculously expensive and the Edward Bess is far better. This stuff even works on the red patches around my nose and nothing ever worked there before.

You can only get it on his website or Bergdorf's site or at the Bergdorf store on 5th Ave. NYC.

By-the-way, his lipstick is truly long lasting without being drying. There are reviews for his products on makeupalley.com.

rbb 09-07-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sdc (Post 1463999)
I use this primer (the one with the SPF 26) and use this Edward Bess concealer:

http://prostores4.megawebservers.com...LER/Detail.bok

This concealer is the best one I have ever used and I've even shelled out for the cle de peau concealer which is ridiculously expensive and the Edward Bess is far better. This stuff even works on the red patches around my nose and nothing ever worked there before.

You can only get it on his website or Bergdorf's site or at the Bergdorf store on 5th Ave. NYC.

By-the-way, his lipstick is truly long lasting without being drying. There are reviews for his products on makeupalley.com.

i looked it up online, and just closed my eyes and ordered one. if you say it is better than cle de peau, i'm willing to give it a try. any idea how long it will take to get to me? i live on long island.
thanks!

ShrekLover 09-07-2010 12:11 PM

It took at least 5 days before I got it, but I'm on the West Coast. I would think you would get it by Friday at the latest.

I hope you like it. I think it will last forever. I haven't even bothered to twist the tube up. I am still just running my brush along the top with it inside the tube.

Robin-in-FL 09-07-2010 02:24 PM

When you say "hereditary" do you mean the skin is too thin?
I think of dark circles as having 3 main causes so no one thing can fix them:
Tired
Allergies
Thin skin

If it's thin skin you might want to try an eye cream designed to help that skin get more substantial.

For concealers, I like the Avon Anew concealer. It looks like house paint, not a good finish, but I wear foundation and it looks fine once that's on; and it sticks like nobody's business, stays on all day and covers well. Applicator is a brush so you can be gentle (pressing there freaks me out so I do not like the roller ball things or stick concealers).

Verity 09-07-2010 03:24 PM

I am always looking for a good concealer. When I was younger, I loved Lancome Effacernes, but that is too drying for me now. I am using the old formula of Maybelline Age Rewind (bought it on eBay before it was completely unavailable), but still not sold on it.

Bought the non-waterproof Lancome concealer recently, and I'm not sold on it. The good news is that my daughter is now using it up. (Yes, dark circles ARE hereditary!)

I'm intrigued by the Edward Bess recommendation, but yowsa, it's expensive. (I don't even want to know the price of cle de peau.) It's not something you can sell or swap once you've used it, you know?

wendi.wendy 09-08-2010 07:34 AM

I've had dark circles all my life -- I started using concealer on them when I had just entered junior high!

What I'm using right now is Clinique All About Eyes -- I use the eye cream to help with puffiness and to moisturize, and I use the All About Eyes concealer (in 04 - medium petal) under my eyes. It is amazing, lasts all day, isn't too expensive, and matches my skin tone really well.

I prefer the creamy concealers but I also use Benefit's Boi-ing (in 02) periodically, which is the kind you swipe your finger across (it's in a little compact-type case).

rbb 09-09-2010 04:31 PM

the edward bess concealer came in today, only two days to get here. i gave it a try immediately, and so far, i'm loving it. good coverage, creamy..... i'll use it for the next few days and report back.
btw, i just looked up cle de peau concealer and it is way more expensive than edward bess. cdp is $70!! eb is $38. so, this may be a winner in more ways than one. i've got my fingers crossed that it wears well this next week.

ShrekLover 09-10-2010 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rbb (Post 1466069)
the edward bess concealer came in today, only two days to get here. i gave it a try immediately, and so far, i'm loving it. good coverage, creamy..... i'll use it for the next few days and report back.
btw, i just looked up cle de peau concealer and it is way more expensive than edward bess. cdp is $70!! eb is $38. so, this may be a winner in more ways than one. i've got my fingers crossed that it wears well this next week.

YAY! I'm still really liking it. It is the only concealer I have ever used that actually works. Hope you still like it after another week.

sarina32 09-10-2010 12:05 PM

I've been using Estee Lauder Double Wear concealer and it provides pretty good coverage without looking too dry.

Robin-in-FL:
Do you have any recs for the eye creams you speak of for thin undereye skin? :)

Verity 09-10-2010 12:46 PM

This is probably a dumb question, but do you put foundation over your concealer? I find that concealer alone can look ok (other than the too-light color), but when I try to layer foundation on top, everything wants to pool into the lines under my eyes.

rbb 09-10-2010 01:56 PM

i rarely use foundation, and if i do i do not put it over the concealer. finds that it is too much, cakes and looks icky.

ShrekLover 09-10-2010 04:35 PM

I found out from the makeup board on this site that you should put your concealer on after foundation, but I don't use foundation under my eyes. I do around my nose though and then put concealer on top of that.

Robin-in-FL 09-10-2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sarina32 (Post 1466737)
I've been using Estee Lauder Double Wear concealer and it provides pretty good coverage without looking too dry.

Robin-in-FL:
Do you have any recs for the eye creams you speak of for thin undereye skin? :)


The only ones I know work for everyone, every time, are real Retin-A creams from the doctor. But anything with a lot of Vitamin C or retinoids (if you can tolerate them) or other antioxidants should help with the thin skin.

I sell Avon so that is the stuff I know the most about - note I do not sell Avon here on NC, so am not selling at you. My customers have had good results with the Anew Alternative Eye cream lessening dark circles that were not from allergies, I think it is because of the antioxidants, not because they anti-oxidize, but because they, like the Retinoids, make the skin turn over faster and get stronger.

If they really bother you, and if you don't go out in the sun, and if you have a doctor who will give you the Retin-A, I'd try for that - there is a GENERIC tretinoin cream and gel so it's not actually that expensive anymore.

Spiralli 09-10-2010 05:08 PM

I have deep-set eyes, so I am prone to dark circles. I started using Avene Eluage cream (in the little pump bottle) after recs on MUA. I had purchased it as a nighttime face cream, but it did nothing for me that way. When I started using it as an eye cream at night, it really did help with fine lines and the dark circles.

I use Well-Rested by Bare Escentuals as my under eye concealer during the day. I barely need to wear this anymore, but I do out of habit I guess. I really like this product because it's lightweight, can be applied heavier if needed, doesn't settle in my lines (yes, some are still there).

rbb 09-11-2010 07:50 AM

spiralli -- what is MUA?

is the cream drying? moisturizing? do you use only that?

if i did not have these dark circles, there are many more times i'd go without makeup. it's not that i think about them, but i sure would love to lighten them!

Spiralli 09-11-2010 07:56 AM

MUA = MakeUp Alley = http://www.makeupalley.com

Avene Eluage is very moisturizing, IME. I love it. I use it only at night. I'm sure if you search the boards people will say they use it both day and night, but due to the retinaldehyde in Eluage, you would need to wear s/s over the area if you are using it during the day. I use all my retinols/retinoids at night only.

Verity 09-11-2010 11:12 AM

So concealer only under the eyes? How do you choose a shade? I have always followed the rule of choosing a concealer shade that's a bit lighter than my foundation shade, but that won't really work if you aren't going to layer it.

Looking at the Edward Bess site (yea, I'm still thinking about that one even though it is much more than I usually would spend on concealer), I'd clearly go with ivory/nude since there are only four shades. How would you choose a shade in a brand that has more color selection? (Just read a couple of sites that say yellowish tones are best for camouflaging purplish circles, which I have.)

rbb 09-11-2010 02:37 PM

yellowish tones just make my skin look bad! my skin is cool tone, and i need cool tones for my concealer, not warm tones. so that is why i ordered the lightest concealer, ivory/nude, and so far it seems to be right for my complexion. i've tried darker concealers, and they look wrong. (according to my computer, which is always a guess, it seemed that the one up had a yellowish hue, but that could have been my computer). i always need to go just a little bit lighter for it to look right. and this one looks right.
hard to describe, but this concealer has a different look about it, not at all cakey, that i like. (at least so far, only used it two days, today when i put on makeup will be my third.)


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