what do you think makes a woman look old?

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The bra issue, absolutely.

And elastic-waist skirts or trousers.

And what about those shoes that are a cross between sneakers and old person lace-ups? I think they have a small gold letter near the laces. Those are awful.

I disagree about scarves.
This may not necessarily fall under the category of appearance, but I think these things affect our appearance.

Complaining
A bad attitude
A negative outlook
Self centeredness
Rehearsing aches and pains
Criticism of others
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Originally Posted by Maudie
Have you met my older sister? ;D Seriously, she has rheumatoid arthritis and is in pain, losing mobility, but her refusal all the years before to do certain things that are better for her and her refusal at this point to do 2 things her dr told her to: stop smoking and give up coffee....she claims those are about all she has left, and I'm trying to convince her that by giving those things up, she might get some stuff back....but I do think her attitude, etc are having an effect. Her job sucks, they do not appreciate her work at all, they've cut back on her hours slightly until sales are up again (she does collections...brings in the money for them), but 6 salesmen sit in the sales office downstairs 5 days a week at full pay and full time in case someone calls in...hey, fire a salesman and give her back hours and a raise...if it were not for her hard work, they'd have shut their doors already. But she really can't find a new job due to the RA so.....catch 22 situation.
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Too much makeup
outdated hair
overly tan
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Capri pants
Nun shoes
Flat one color dyed hair
Eyebrows drawn on
Visible lip liner (not blended)

I will also add "Quirky". I think people get to a certain age where they don't care what anyone else thinks. That can be a good thing... but, not always. I've seen it take shape in odd animal prints, overly bright floral patterns, ankle bracelets, and ear cuffs.
Too much makeup
outdated hair
overly tan
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Too much makeup
outdated hair
overly tan
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"If you judge people,you have no time to love them"
-Mother Theresa
I think that many of these things are about looking bad, rather than looking old. Things like wearing the wrong size bra or badly fitting clothes (either too tight or too loose) will make anyone look bad. And the type of makeup you can wear depends on the colour and condition of your skin - not everyone wrinkles at the same pace, not all young people can take heavy liner (I already had dark circles under my eyes when I was a teenager.)

I think what makes you appear old - in addition to the stuff about behaviour, being cranky, moving slowly, etc. - is continuing to wear styles that were around when you were younger. At the same time, always trying to wear the latest up-to-the-minute trends, when you clearly aren't a teenager, can also make you look old.

I also think you need to distinguish between "old and falling apart" and "older and sophisticated".
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Ditto the attitude.
Self loathing makes people look old.
I pity people who constantly worry about what they look like, people who feel bad because they look their age instead of looking perpetually 20, people who have been convinced by the media that they will never be perfect, they will never be young again, they should just go live in a cave because they have wrinkles and grey hair.
In contrast - people who enjoy who they are and where they've been, those are the ones who look and act 'young'.
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I was going to post and then I read what you wrote and see no reason to say the exact same thing! I agree 200% with what you've said. People who fret about their age seem older almost instantly.

Age is like "beauty" -- if you are conscious of creating or preserving it, it forces people to focus on it rather than you.
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Capri pants
Nun shoes
Flat one color dyed hair
Eyebrows drawn on
Visible lip liner (not blended)

I will also add "Quirky". I think people get to a certain age where they don't care what anyone else thinks. That can be a good thing... but, not always. I've seen it take shape in odd animal prints, overly bright floral patterns, ankle bracelets, and ear cuffs.
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People often express surprise when they learn my age, and say I look about 10 years younger. Part of it is attitude, I think, but part of it also is that I'm not uber-uber skinny. My sister has been saying for years that a few extra pounds once you hit 40 is good b/c the extra fat in your face helps with the wrinkles - they don't get as deep b/c you've got the extra fat plumping them up.

I'm not saying a woman over 40 shouldn't be fit, but I do think that women who are just skin and bones look older.

Then as if to validate my own thoughts, I just read an article that said that women under 40 who are overweight look older than their years, but women who carry extra weight after 40 look younger than their years.
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I agree with all the comments about attitude.

I think the word "old" is used as an insult. What's wrong with looking old if you are old or middle aged if you are middle aged? I hear middle aged women being referred to as "old" when they merely look older than they used to.

Striving to appear decades younger is just as unattractive as total inattention to one's appearance.

I totally disagree about scarves and capris!


Ditto the attitude.
Self loathing makes people look old.
I pity people who constantly worry about what they look like, people who feel bad because they look their age instead of looking perpetually 20, people who have been convinced by the media that they will never be perfect, they will never be young again, they should just go live in a cave because they have wrinkles and grey hair.
In contrast - people who enjoy who they are and where they've been, those are the ones who look and act 'young'.
Originally Posted by jeepcurlygurl
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I hate when I'm at the pharmacy, and near the makeup and skincare products which are supposed to be targeted toward older women, there are photos of models in their 20s. I don't want to look like I'm in my 20s.
i think as long as the woman does not buy into age limits then she is young. if the woman does not change herself to fit her age then she is never old.
"I hate when I'm at the pharmacy, and near the makeup and skincare products which are supposed to be targeted toward older women, there are photos of models in their 20s. I don't want to look like I'm in my 20s." - Malory

Just like in the ads in the magazines for the anti-aging skin creams never show a woman in the age group that they are targeting, UNLESS said model has obviously had a LOT of medical work done(like Botox, peels, retinoids, etc), far beyond the capabilities of the largely useless cream that is advertised. The stuff that really works(medical-grade skincare and procedures) is never advertised. Meanwhile that 20-year-old model is held up as THE standard of perfection that even few 20-year-olds can match, let along someone in their 40s and up!
Whatever one's resources, at a certain point, one has to go with the face one has, and trying too hard at this point can make one look older than one is, actually. A lighter hand in general works better, whether it comes to makeup, certain skin care, or even procedures, if one is in that market(I'm not, for sure - I can barely even use ordinary skin creams, let alone anything "strong"!)
I think it has a lot to do with how we carry ourselves when we get older. Good posture is a must. Also, I agree that when you get older you shouldn't be too skinny, but the mid-life waist bulge is another age defining attribute.
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"I think it has a lot to do with how we carry ourselves when we get older. Good posture is a must. Also, I agree that when you get older you shouldn't be too skinny, but the mid-life waist bulge is another age defining attribute." - Lotsawaves

I'm totally in agreement here too - even if one's face is, shall we say, "weathered", if one has an energetic spring in one's step and great posture, one looks a lot younger than someone with a doll-like face that's had a lot of work, but from the neck down with lousy posture, etc. Keeping the mid-section under control is not only about looking younger but also for health reasons. Any extra fat gained around the mid-section especially at and post-menopause, when it commonly happens, and on the upper body in general is more dangerous, especially if the woman was previously slim, than someone who was overweight all their life, due to the type of fat gained. This mid-section fat, plus upper body fat greatly increases the risk of several different types of cancer, as well as heart disease and diabetes. Google "syndrome X" and you will find out plenty on this score. Keep the mid-section down, and you will be younger in the sense that you will have DECREASED your risk of serious degenerative diseases.
"I hate when I'm at the pharmacy, and near the makeup and skincare products which are supposed to be targeted toward older women, there are photos of models in their 20s. I don't want to look like I'm in my 20s." - Malory

Just like in the ads in the magazines for the anti-aging skin creams never show a woman in the age group that they are targeting, UNLESS said model has obviously had a LOT of medical work done(like Botox, peels, retinoids, etc), far beyond the capabilities of the largely useless cream that is advertised. The stuff that really works(medical-grade skincare and procedures) is never advertised. Meanwhile that 20-year-old model is held up as THE standard of perfection that even few 20-year-olds can match, let along someone in their 40s and up!
Whatever one's resources, at a certain point, one has to go with the face one has, and trying too hard at this point can make one look older than one is, actually. A lighter hand in general works better, whether it comes to makeup, certain skin care, or even procedures, if one is in that market(I'm not, for sure - I can barely even use ordinary skin creams, let alone anything "strong"!)
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