Maintaining curl definition... need advice!

Hi everyone!

My girl has a 3A/3B hair. I learned how to take care of her hair, but lately her hair has change a lot.

I don't know if I'm doing something wrong but the roots of her hair, specially in the top of her head, are more wavy (or less curly :P), but the ends are still very curly.

I braid her hair during the night and in the morning I use some water with conditioner and that helps to "revive" the curl, but during the day (usually in the day care) her hair gets frizzy, specially in the top, and lose definition.

I was using garnier curl sculpting cream but I think it was drying her hair.

These are the products I'm using now... Tresemme luxurious moisture shampoo (once a week), loreal vive pro hydra gloss conditioner (every two days) and pantene 2-minute deep conditioner (I love this one! I use this once a week, but in the morning I use a bit of product diluted in water to revive her curls). That's all.

She has 3 years old and I don't want to use harmful products in her hair.

Any advice please!?

(Sorry for my english and the long post!)
Well, some of the change in your daughter's curls could just be normal for her age - our curls can change with age and hormones, etc. my daughter had curly hair until about three, and now it is mostly wavy with a few curls around her face. But that could change again with puberty!

As far as caring for your daughter's curls, have you considered going CG? You could try cutting out harsh sulfates and silicones to see if that helps reduce the frizz. Most of the products you listed have silicones, which need shampoo to wash out and avoid build up, and shampoo can dry hair out and cause frizz. Also, over conditioning can cause frizz as well. If her hair is fine, this can happen pretty easily.
2c/3a, botticelli/wavy/'swavy (huh?)
fine, dense, normal porosity/elasticity, dry climate

My favorite brands are Kinky Curly, As I am, Curly Kinks, Curl Junkie, and Darcy's Botanicals. Also love sealing with oils (loving argan oil right now) and styling with jelly products (KCCC is my current favorite). Mostly trying to keep it simple!

CG since 12/29/2011
Well, some of the change in your daughter's curls could just be normal for her age - our curls can change with age and hormones, etc. my daughter had curly hair until about three, and now it is mostly wavy with a few curls around her face. But that could change again with puberty!

As far as caring for your daughter's curls, have you considered going CG? You could try cutting out harsh sulfates and silicones to see if that helps reduce the frizz. Most of the products you listed have silicones, which need shampoo to wash out and avoid build up, and shampoo can dry hair out and cause frizz. Also, over conditioning can cause frizz as well. If her hair is fine, this can happen pretty easily.
Originally Posted by jsuzkelley
Oh thanks! Yes her hair is thin... that makes sense. Honestly, I though the CG method was going to make her hair more "heavy" because her hair is very thin. I feel so ignorant now! lol


Well, some of the change in your daughter's curls could just be normal for her age - our curls can change with age and hormones, etc. my daughter had curly hair until about three, and now it is mostly wavy with a few curls around her face. But that could change again with puberty!

As far as caring for your daughter's curls, have you considered going CG? You could try cutting out harsh sulfates and silicones to see if that helps reduce the frizz. Most of the products you listed have silicones, which need shampoo to wash out and avoid build up, and shampoo can dry hair out and cause frizz. Also, over conditioning can cause frizz as well. If her hair is fine, this can happen pretty easily.
Originally Posted by jsuzkelley
Oh thanks! Yes her hair is thin... that makes sense. Honestly, I though the CG method was going to make her hair more "heavy" because her hair is very thin. I feel so ignorant now! lol


Originally Posted by Natcuim
No need to feel ignorant - there is so much information out there I'm still learning

You could start with just a sulfate free shampoo that will be gentler on her hair, eliminate silicones. You can still use richer products, just use a smaller amount so it doesn't weigh her hair down. Or look for lighter products if you don't want to have to worry too much about the amount you use. A lot of fine haired curlies like KCKT as a leave in/detangler and it is very light. For a co-wash, the Sauve naturals or VO5 conditioners are also very popular - others with fine hair really like the V05 clarifying conditioners as these are very light weight and don't weigh down there hair. To start the CG method, you'll want to do a final sulfate shampoo wash (just make sure the shampoo does not contain any silicones - anything that ends in -cone or -xane) to get rid of any silicones that are already in her hair. Then you can condition and style with silicone-free products.
2c/3a, botticelli/wavy/'swavy (huh?)
fine, dense, normal porosity/elasticity, dry climate

My favorite brands are Kinky Curly, As I am, Curly Kinks, Curl Junkie, and Darcy's Botanicals. Also love sealing with oils (loving argan oil right now) and styling with jelly products (KCCC is my current favorite). Mostly trying to keep it simple!

CG since 12/29/2011
You could start with just a sulfate free shampoo that will be gentler on her hair, eliminate silicones. You can still use richer products, just use a smaller amount so it doesn't weigh her hair down. Or look for lighter products if you don't want to have to worry too much about the amount you use. A lot of fine haired curlies like KCKT as a leave in/detangler and it is very light. For a co-wash, the Sauve naturals or VO5 conditioners are also very popular - others with fine hair really like the V05 clarifying conditioners as these are very light weight and don't weigh down there hair. To start the CG method, you'll want to do a final sulfate shampoo wash (just make sure the shampoo does not contain any silicones - anything that ends in -cone or -xane) to get rid of any silicones that are already in her hair. Then you can condition and style with silicone-free products.
Thanks! I started like a week ago and I pick Suave Naturals too! The leave-in is Tressemme Naturals and the gel is from Pantene, the one that is CG friendly, but I don't like it too much.

So far her hair has improved a lot, more soft and defined. My problem now is that we can't wait until her hair is dry to go out so her hair gets a little messy/frizzy on the way.
You could start with just a sulfate free shampoo that will be gentler on her hair, eliminate silicones. You can still use richer products, just use a smaller amount so it doesn't weigh her hair down. Or look for lighter products if you don't want to have to worry too much about the amount you use. A lot of fine haired curlies like KCKT as a leave in/detangler and it is very light. For a co-wash, the Sauve naturals or VO5 conditioners are also very popular - others with fine hair really like the V05 clarifying conditioners as these are very light weight and don't weigh down there hair. To start the CG method, you'll want to do a final sulfate shampoo wash (just make sure the shampoo does not contain any silicones - anything that ends in -cone or -xane) to get rid of any silicones that are already in her hair. Then you can condition and style with silicone-free products.
Thanks! I started like a week ago and I pick Suave Naturals too! The leave-in is Tressemme Naturals and the gel is from Pantene, the one that is CG friendly, but I don't like it too much.

So far her hair has improved a lot, more soft and defined. My problem now is that we can't wait until her hair is dry to go out so her hair gets a little messy/frizzy on the way.
Originally Posted by Natcuim
To help with that, try diffusing her hair until it's about half (or even completely dry). A lot of curlies use a diffusing attachment (often called a finger diffuser) on their hair dryer to dry their curls without the frizz and curl separation, so the definition is maintained. You can get this just about anywhere, and it's usually around 10 dollars.
Hair Type: 3c, Med-High Density, Low Porosity
Low Poo: KC Come Clean
Condish: AOHR, TN (Avocado), TJ Balancing Moisture
Leave in: GDL, KBB
Curl Lotion/Gel: CHS/CK
Others: CJ Curl Rehab, Jojoba Oil


CG since '09

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