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3mccann 04-24-2009 09:38 AM

Lice
 
My daughter has come home with Lice. This is our first experience, so we are learning as we go. She also has relatively curly hair and it tangles easily.

The over-the-counter products are basically all posion/chemicals. We did one round and have almost destroyed her scalp and her hair is extremely dry. AND we have do another session in 10 days.

Does anyone know any alternatives that are safe and effective???

DeLaEd 04-24-2009 11:20 AM

You can try the oil method. By either coating the scalp with olive oil or mayo (real). Once you have the scalp thoroughly coated cover with saran wrap or a plastic cap followed by a towel and let them sit for an hour.

This should smother the lice as they can't breathe in the oily situation. This will kill the lice/nits and give your daughter a nice conditioning treatment as well.

I hope this helps you out.

EarthyCurls 04-24-2009 02:48 PM

I have had it a few times- dont bother with the medicated shampoo, and the combs that come with them will probably rip out hair. get a comb with circular metal teeth like this: http://www.headlice.org/licemeister/index.htm in fact, that one is a wonderful brand, all i ever used when I had lice. my mom diligently combed for about a week, and there were less and less each day until there were no more. i also use it if I want to get bits of stuff out of my hair.

iamarenrattoo 04-24-2009 11:03 PM

Mayo really works well, and as stated above, it does a great job at conditioning too.

My other suggestion for the future is to add tea tree oil to her hair care routine. It can help prevent lice. I have found the easiest way is to make a tea tree oil and water solution, just put it in a squirt bottle, give the bottle a shake and spray on hair every morning (or when you add various products/detangle/etc..). The oil is good for your scalp too..

3mccann 04-25-2009 10:34 AM

great tips everyone. I thought about the Tea Tree Oil and added some to her detangler yesterday and really squirted it on her scalp. I will definately do the mayo mask also. We did the chemical thing once already, the mayo will hopefully correct the damage from that.

Any suggestions on making sure there are no more nits/bugs in the house? I have done about 25 loads of laundery so far. I am guessing I will keep doing it until everything sign of it is gone.

madhuri_dixit_fan 04-25-2009 11:31 AM

Tea Tree Oil and Neem Oil added together to shampoo or conditioner (and body wash) have done the trick for us in preventing outbreaks of lice and other skin buggies like impetigo when those buggies have stormed thru my kids' schools and camps. Those oils are just super beneficial for scalp/skin health in general, so I use those oils at least once a week in a product like Trader Joe's Tea Tree Tingle conditioner (I add small amount of the conditioner/shampoo to a different bottle and then mix in the Neem and Tea Tree Oils; that Trader Joe's conditoner also has eucalyptus and lavendar oils that are good for lice prevention too) or my kids shampoo and conditioner from California Baby or I add small amounts to some Coconut or Avocado or Olive oils or a combo of those oils, massage into scalp, and then hour later wash it out. I basically have to be diligent with some type of prevention because my kids have ezcema (which makes getting other skin rashes and skin diseases easier) any skin thingies are going to make their ezcema trip up big time.

Try a google search for "Neem Oil Lice" to discover more about how it can help with lice prevention, lice treatment and overall scalp health. Neem Oil stinks to high heaven, but there are several natural shampoos and conditioners on the market that have Neem and Tea Tree in them if you don't want to buy all the seperate ingredients or deal with masking the smell of Neem Oil yourself. Alaffia is a brand sold at Whole Foods and they have a Neem and Shea Butter shampoo and conditioner line that also has Tree Tree, Lavendar and Rosemary Oils. With any product, just make sure all ingredients are safe for your child and that she doesn't have gluten/wheat intolerance if you try Alaffia because their products often have wheat protein.

As for the laundry, just keep doing what you have been with lots of washing in the hot water cycle, doing her laundry seperate if you can, but also add 3-4 drops of Tea Tree Oil to your wash as well, and tie up toys like teddy bears and pillows into plasic trash bags for like a week or so and then wash & dry them or immediately wash them, dry them and then tie in bags for a week to help deal with any possible buggies there.

Wish your daughter and you well.

EarthyCurls 04-26-2009 09:57 AM

yeah, i forgot about tea tree. every one in your house should probably use it for a week or 2.

darcurl 04-26-2009 02:17 PM

Have you looked for Lyclear brand products at your pharmacy? They make a creme which has an insecticide, and a spray which doesn't, both are said to quickly kill lice. Which one did you buy, was it a wash, you said it dried out your daughters hair, I am sorry it must be harsh. You should maybe get a comb to clear the hair and use a tissue to wipe the comb clean, i hear lice do not jump or fly, but if they have an exoskeleton then it may be hard to kill them on the tissue. I am upset to hear about this, you must be exhausted, the washing and the treating, plus you now need to be aware of your daughter. I really hope you find a good method and get rid of them soon. Please keep us posted.

kema1v 04-26-2009 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 3mccann (Post 946521)
Does anyone know any alternatives that are safe and effective???

A safe and very effective method to use is "bug busting" http://www.chc.org/index.cfm. All you need is a conditioner and a good lice comb. Wet hair and apply lots of conditioner, use the lice comb to remove all the lice, repeat every 2-3 days for 2 weeks. The first session should remove all the adult lice but you need to keep doing it to get all the ones that are still to hatch.
It takes some time to comb through the hair thoroughly but you aren't using any nasty chemicals and it works.

3mccann 04-27-2009 07:48 AM

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3mccann 04-27-2009 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kema1v (Post 948359)
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Originally Posted by 3mccann (Post 946521)
Does anyone know any alternatives that are safe and effective???

A safe and very effective method to use is "bug busting" http://www.chc.org/index.cfm. All you need is a conditioner and a good lice comb. Wet hair and apply lots of conditioner, use the lice comb to remove all the lice, repeat every 2-3 days for 2 weeks. The first session should remove all the adult lice but you need to keep doing it to get all the ones that are still to hatch.
It takes some time to comb through the hair thoroughly but you aren't using any nasty chemicals and it works.


This sounds promising. Have you used this method? How did you obtain your package? I can't find any links for distributorship in the U.S.

3mccann 04-27-2009 07:58 AM

madhuri_dixit_fan
 
I am having a problem quoting your message, but had a few questions on the Neem Oil. It looks like a potent, but natural way to erradicate the little buggers, but I don't see where the product has been used on people rather then plants, trees, etc. Is there a website I can go to?

DeLaEd 04-27-2009 08:07 PM

Neem oil is widely used by a lot of ladies on this site and a few other hair sites I frequent. I did hear that it smells bad. But it works well. I would do a search on this site and you should come up with some info.

kema1v 04-28-2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 3mccann (Post 948894)

This sounds promising. Have you used this method? How did you obtain your package? I can't find any links for distributorship in the U.S.

I've had to use to 3 times, sigh :sad3: and it has worked every time. It's a shame you can't buy the kit in the US but the method will work without it all you need is a good lice comb. This is long so bear with me....

1) Wet hair and apply lots and lots of conditioner, preferably one with good slip. This will make the hair easier to comb and also slows down the lice so they can't escape so easily. Detangle with a normal comb.
2) Take a lice comb and go over all the hair section by section several times. Rinse out the comb after each stroke to remove the critters. I keep a bowl of water at the side. This step takes some time!

This first session should remove all the adult lice so no new nits will be laid. But you may miss some of the smaller lice and there will still be un-hatched eggs in the hair. So you need to repeat the process every 3 days to ensure you remove all the lice before they are old enough to reproduce which they can do once they are about a week old.

The eggs take between 7-10 days to hatch so you need to keep this up for at least 11 days but 14 days is probably safer.

You can see that is working because the size and number of lice decreases each time you do it. It takes some patience from you and the child but it will work and no chemicals required!

kema1v 04-28-2009 01:44 PM

Darn, after all that typing I found a web link that explains it:

http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/23069052/

One last point, you actually don't need to go overboard on washing all the clothing etc. Lice are transferred through head to head contact, they will not voluntarily leave the hair. Any that do come off are dying anyway.

I spent a lot of time researching this, including reading medical papers when my daughter first came home with lice!

brown_eyedgal20 05-04-2009 06:22 PM

This is such good info...but now my head is itchy...

missymom53525 05-11-2009 09:37 PM

I feel for you. My kids just got sent home on Friday because they picked up lice from who-knows-where. I have 3 girls with longish hair, and it's such a pain to get out of my oldest daughter's hair.

So, I hate pesticides, and I have lice. I buy the Suave Naturals Coconut shampoo and conditioner, put some tea tree oil in each bottle and mix it. Then I wash their hair out, and then let the conditioner sit for at least 20 minutes to really get it into their hair. I bought the Rid metal comb set - they're about $8 at WalMart in the pharmacy section - it comes with a short comb for the bugs, and a long comb for the eggs. I only use the long comb though; it seems to work for both purposes. Anyway, get a claw clip or two to section off your daughter's hair and comb thru one section at a time. When I do this, any bugs I've pulled out are dead and the eggs come off the hair much easier.

I recently tried a recipe that calls for mayo, white vinegar, and tea tree oil and that worked awesome. My kids are ready to go back to school already :)

loewin 05-15-2009 12:08 PM

I went thru this last year with my 17 year old. We tried all the mayo's and everything that's been suggested but I think her buggies were resistant because they would not go away. We vacuumed all upholstery everyday. Put the pillows in the hot dryer daily and vacuumed the beds daily while i did the routine below.

The only thing that worked was a white vinegar rinse... it seemed to weaken the glue that holds the nits on the hair. For 3 days straight after the rinse I went thru her head picking out the bugs and the eggs. The combs didn't even work well... I had to do it all by hand. :sad3:

Not fun but you'll get thru it.

hairy situation 05-22-2009 08:24 PM

I believe Henna works for this
 
It smothers the lice. The hennaforhair.com website has some info. Gives you red hair (!) but safe and natural.

Jen

sevendaiis 06-26-2009 08:52 PM

There's also a product called Wild Child, Quit Nits, that contains natural pesticides from Australia. Not sure if its available in the US, but heard it works well. Its all natural, supposeably smells nice, and is not oily, greasy and not as UGH as the chemical craop.

The thing with the chemical stuff, the lice can get resistant to the one product after being used for 3 times or so, but lice can't get resistent to natural methods, and its better for their hair, so I think natural all the way!!~


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