Just for Me Texture Softener??

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Whooo goodness I can't stop laughing.. I know I shouldn't but I looked at the video and when that lady started talking about the "anti-breakage" formula.. and all it is .. is some sunflower oil.. I am about died. Whoooooooo goodness. LOL!

It's a shame how they target certain groups that are naive. But to those of us in the know...They aren't slick. They are pulling the same crap that another brand that calls theirs a "silkener" is pulling. You just put that oil in there to slow down the process of the straightening.

Look, you could just buy a regular relaxer..toss some oil and conditioner in it like all these "natural salons" do that "soften", "silken", or "texturize" the hair and get the same results.

This stuff isn't anything new.. folks have been doing this stuff for years. Oy.

People, all a "texturizer" is .. is a RELAXER. It's lye based (no-lye is still lye). The difference is with texturizers is that you just don't leave them on as long as relaxer and you dont' comb them through that way the curl in the hair doesn't relax straight..and you are left with some curl but it's looser. The oild and conditioners are put in the product to slow the processing down..that way you have some time to get it all in the hair before it starts to straighten it.

Thing is you have to be extremely careful with this stuff and you have to know what the texture of the hair is you are using it on.. for a person with curly but very fine hair that want to retain their curls..this could be DISASTEROUS.
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HAHAHAHA I just watched that video for the "instructions" and this product is so BLATANTLY marketed towards white moms with biracial kids or white moms with adopted ethnic kids that doesnt have A CLUE how to do hair. they made it look like giving a perm was a science fair project!
Originally Posted by kamris
Yup, that sure is true! I would be laughing if the video didn't make me so sad and pissed off. I can't believe these products are marketed towards children -- why isn't it illegal to use this stuff on kids? I hate "relaxers" so much. But of course informed adults can do what they want - relaxing is mostly a victimless crime, lol. But pushing this stuff on moms of little girls is just so horrible. I guess this touched a nerve for me ....
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Hello my Sisters,

I was reading the posts, and I had to add my two cents.

First off...a texturizer IS A relaxer...don't be fooled, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. If it chemically loosens the curl, it is a relaxer. Remember the saying, "walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck".

I have very thick, dense, type 4a hair. When it's natural, I have to wet it to comb it.

And just in case anyone is wondering, I am not bi-racial, I am Black. I have a little Native Amer. and Euro waaaaaaaay back, but African is the pre-dominant ancestry ( as is the case with many Afro-Amer. ), so, I am Black.

I was natural for about 11 years. Working as a nurse, I had the freedom to do what I wanted with my hair, I wore braids, twists, afro-puffs, etc.. I had a career transition and got a corporate job, and yes, I succumbed to the pressure of the corp. world and decided to relax my hair.

I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my natural Black hair, so I didn't want it bone straight, I wanted to maintain some of my coils and curls so I decided to use a texturizer. Besides, I used a bone straight relaxer for most of my life ( my poor Mom had a hard time with my thick, dense, hair, so at age nine, she relaxed it).

The standard bone straight relaxers were terrible, my hair was consistently damaged and breaking. So, texturizers seemed to be the obvious choice.

I trusted the "stylist" with my hair, and allowed her to apply a so-called texturizer that they used in the salon, to my hair. Bad, bad decision. My hair went from scalp to floor.

I decided to try a new salon, AND bring my own kit. I happend upon the aforementioned product and decided to try it. Well, it has been almost three years, and I am very pleased with the results.

My hair is straighter than I would have liked it, but it is not bone straight. Unless you are wearing a short, pixie style, never, ever relax your hair until it is bone straight. If your hair is medium to long, allowing it to maintain a little of it's natural curn pattern will produce relaxed hair that has more body and bounce, making it healthier looking.

PLEASE NOTE: Any process that breaks the disulfide bonds of the hair strands, rendering them impossible to re-form, will without question, cause damage.

After you apply the relaxer, the damage has been done, that is a fact, BUT there are things you can do to help your hair maintain strength, and vitality.

1. As I mentioned earlier, unless your hair is styled in a short, pixie cut, do not relax your hair until it is bone straight. Your hair needs body in order to look healthy and vital. For medium to long hair, try using a texturizer like Just for Me. Your hair will look thicker and will have more bounce. I have seen ladies with hair relaxed so straight, it looks like it has been glued down....NOT a good look!

2. If relaxing at home, please make sure all of the relaxer has been washed out. Wash at least 3-4 times, then apply a deep conditioner. I use Organic Root Stimulator Replenishing Conditioner, follow package directions. If I have it, I add a little almond, avocado, coconut, wheat germ, and/or vitamin e oil, and shea butter to the conditioner. These oils are great for adding softness and shine. After hair has been conditioned, gently rinse out the conditioner with lukewarm/warm water. NOT HOT. Wring out your hair, do not rub it with a towel, this will cause even more damage. I recommend roller setting. If you choose to roller set or blow dry, use a leave-in conditioner. I use Infusium 23. Make sure your hair is well coated with it. Don't over use it, but dont under use it...use your discretion. Proceed to roller set hair. If you want your hair to appear straighter, you may use a CERAMIC flat-iron or curling iron to get it straighter, BUT do two very important things. Use an alcohol free heat protecting spray before using the iron ( I use Nexxus Heat Protexx), and keep the iron at it's lowest setting; too much heat is a bad move.

3. For hair washing in-between relaxers. Wash your hair every 5-7 days. Shampoo with a quality product, I use Dove Intense Moisture shampoo, always deep condition, and follow the steps I outlined in section 2. Wait at least 8 weeks before relaxing again.

If you have questions, suggestions, or want more info. Contact me. I'd love to hear from you.

Peace, love and tranquility y'all!
oh yea, one more thing.

i agree with the Sisters who wrote that relaxers dont belong in children's heads.

it causes serious damage, and in my opinion, affects self-esteem

if you are a grown-up, and happy with yourself, do what you want.

but little girls are still forming opinions of themselves, so give them a chance to form an opinion of themselves as they really are. when they are older, and decide they want to relax well...talk about it.

I'm not knocking my Mom for relaxing my hair. She did the best she could, but it became too difficult for her. Even Black mothers have a hard time doing their daughter's natural hair. Luckily, my parents told me I was their beautiful baby girl, with natural hair, relaxed hair..whatever!

And if there are any White moms of Black/White bi-racial or Black children reading this, if you are having difficulty with your child's hair, dont worry about it. Some Black mothers have a hard time too, but if you have Black friends or coworkers that you trust, reach out and ask for advice. Comb the Internet for advice, and buy a couple books. I strongly recommend, No Lye by Tulani Kinard. It is an excellent guide for caring for natural Black hair.

Finally, this goes out to BOTH White mothers and Black mothers, please, dont allow your child to feel like their hair is a problem. If you notice that your child is embarrased or ashamed of their hair. Nip it in the bud right away.

OK I've added to two cents!

peace )
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parents please do not use this product. i seen a parent use it in my daughters preschool and it messed up the childs hair drastically!!!
Whooo goodness I can't stop laughing.. I know I shouldn't but I looked at the video and when that lady started talking about the "anti-breakage" formula.. and all it is .. is some sunflower oil.. I am about died. Whoooooooo goodness. LOL!

It's a shame how they target certain groups that are naive. But to those of us in the know...They aren't slick. They are pulling the same crap that another brand that calls theirs a "silkener" is pulling. You just put that oil in there to slow down the process of the straightening.

Look, you could just buy a regular relaxer..toss some oil and conditioner in it like all these "natural salons" do that "soften", "silken", or "texturize" the hair and get the same results.

This stuff isn't anything new.. folks have been doing this stuff for years. Oy.

People, all a "texturizer" is .. is a RELAXER. It's lye based (no-lye is still lye). The difference is with texturizers is that you just don't leave them on as long as relaxer and you dont' comb them through that way the curl in the hair doesn't relax straight..and you are left with some curl but it's looser. The oild and conditioners are put in the product to slow the processing down..that way you have some time to get it all in the hair before it starts to straighten it.

Thing is you have to be extremely careful with this stuff and you have to know what the texture of the hair is you are using it on.. for a person with curly but very fine hair that want to retain their curls..this could be DISASTEROUS.
Originally Posted by *Marah*

I used to JFM Texture Softener today. I only used half the cup (I have 5 inches of hair), add the oil to my hair, added some more Jojoba oil to my hair and in the cup. And left it in for a total of 10-12 minutes. I don't think it really did anything. I even combed it through But I'm done with texturizers!
from what i know it works wonders and helped me maintain my natural curls even with my transition out of perms in to all natural. i am thinking about gn bc
Whooo goodness I can't stop laughing.. I know I shouldn't but I looked at the video and when that lady started talking about the "anti-breakage" formula.. and all it is .. is some sunflower oil.. I am about died. Whoooooooo goodness. LOL!

It's a shame how they target certain groups that are naive. But to those of us in the know...They aren't slick. They are pulling the same crap that another brand that calls theirs a "silkener" is pulling. You just put that oil in there to slow down the process of the straightening.

Look, you could just buy a regular relaxer..toss some oil and conditioner in it like all these "natural salons" do that "soften", "silken", or "texturize" the hair and get the same results.

This stuff isn't anything new.. folks have been doing this stuff for years. Oy.

People, all a "texturizer" is .. is a RELAXER. It's lye based (no-lye is still lye). The difference is with texturizers is that you just don't leave them on as long as relaxer and you dont' comb them through that way the curl in the hair doesn't relax straight..and you are left with some curl but it's looser. The oild and conditioners are put in the product to slow the processing down..that way you have some time to get it all in the hair before it starts to straighten it.

Thing is you have to be extremely careful with this stuff and you have to know what the texture of the hair is you are using it on.. for a person with curly but very fine hair that want to retain their curls..this could be DISASTEROUS.
Originally Posted by *Marah*

( true thing is it really did help my breakage)
Whooo goodness I can't stop laughing.. I know I shouldn't but I looked at the video and when that lady started talking about the "anti-breakage" formula.. and all it is .. is some sunflower oil.. I am about died. Whoooooooo goodness. LOL!

It's a shame how they target certain groups that are naive. But to those of us in the know...They aren't slick. They are pulling the same crap that another brand that calls theirs a "silkener" is pulling. You just put that oil in there to slow down the process of the straightening.

Look, you could just buy a regular relaxer..toss some oil and conditioner in it like all these "natural salons" do that "soften", "silken", or "texturize" the hair and get the same results.

This stuff isn't anything new.. folks have been doing this stuff for years. Oy.

People, all a "texturizer" is .. is a RELAXER. It's lye based (no-lye is still lye). The difference is with texturizers is that you just don't leave them on as long as relaxer and you dont' comb them through that way the curl in the hair doesn't relax straight..and you are left with some curl but it's looser. The oild and conditioners are put in the product to slow the processing down..that way you have some time to get it all in the hair before it starts to straighten it.

Thing is you have to be extremely careful with this stuff and you have to know what the texture of the hair is you are using it on.. for a person with curly but very fine hair that want to retain their curls..this could be DISASTEROUS.
Originally Posted by *Marah*

( true thing is it really did help my breakage)
Originally Posted by aquaprincess
so you're saying that they texturizer helped reduce breakage? (mainly from SSKs, right?) I had a ton of SSKs before the texturizer, and now, I don't beause my hair doesn't tangle as much
i think i might have messed up my hair when iused this softener. ok so i used it last december but instead of leaving it for five mins my mom left it for 30 and kept combing it through so as i suspected, it came out straight. well most parts anyway, and the rest was still coarse and kinky. i am half indian half negro so you can imagine my hair. so i did it again after a month and some of the curl was restored but some parts were still straight. i decided i will let everything grow out and do it all over again. but people keep telling me it looks like it has broken. help please. thats nott the rest of the story but i dont want to bombard anyone please help!
i think i might have messed up my hair when iused this softener. ok so i used it last december but instead of leaving it for five mins my mom left it for 30 and kept combing it through so as i suspected, it came out straight. well most parts anyway, and the rest was still coarse and kinky. i am half indian half negro so you can imagine my hair. so i did it again after a month and some of the curl was restored but some parts were still straight. i decided i will let everything grow out and do it all over again. but people keep telling me it looks like it has broken. help please. thats nott the rest of the story but i dont want to bombard anyone please help!
Originally Posted by Nicoleisthebest
First of all a month is way to soon to reapply this kind of chemical treatment. If your hair is breaking extensively I suggest you get it cut before the damage gets worse. If you want to chemically alter your hair again use this growing out phase to do your research on how to care for it. Or you can learn to care for your hair in its natural state. I also suggest you visit the transitioning section because growing out chemicals is a difficult process.
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IMO chemicals should never be used on a child's hair. Texturixer, softener, silkener whatever. I remember the chemical burns I used to get and I almost always went to pro stylists. Why would anyone risk putting something capable of burning the scalp of the child you love is beyond me.
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My daughter hair is damaged from this misleading product, very disappointed !!!!! Never use this on a childs hair!!! NEVER!!!
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My daughter hair is damaged from this misleading product, very disappointed !!!!! Never use this on a childs hair!!! NEVER!!!
Originally Posted by d.boatwright
THIS IS FROM JFM website-

What is the difference between a relaxer and texturizer?
A relaxer is a crème that is used to chemically straighten naturally coiled or curly hair textures. A texturizer is a mild relaxer that loosens the natural curl pattern of hair and produces easier manageability.

They say it is a relaxer. I don't see any misleading there. I have picked up a box of JFM and compared it to relaxers marketed to adults and saw the ingredients were practically identical. They just swap the grown lady picture for a little girl. What this product is is plain as day if the time is taken to do the research. I'm totally against putting a relaxer in a child's hair and not just talking about this particular product. No reputable salon would ever relax a child's hair yet it is done over kitchen sinks all the time.
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"A life without fame can be a good life, but fame without a life is no life at all." - Clive Davis
If you notice that your child is embarrased or ashamed of their hair. Nip it in the bud right away.

OK I've added to two cents!

peace )
Originally Posted by Kibbles
I thought you made some good points in both of your posts (if you still visit the boards and might read this). My only concern is: if the goal is to instill one's kid with curl pride and ward off shame, but she sees Mommy using a texturizing (mildly relaxing her curls), it sends a double message IMO.
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My daughter is mixed, black and white. For the first 7 years of her life I never put chemicals in her hair. Once she entered 2nd grade she had said she wanted straight hair, and since her hair was so thick and curly I considered it. I had asked around did some research, on the effects of a relaxer. That's when I heard of the softener and how much "safer" it is. So I decided to give it a try. I read the instructions over and over as I was a little nervous. To my surprise it came out beautifully, her curls were still there but when I straightened it the frizzies were gone. I was very pleased. It held very well and about a year later I decided to reapply it. My friend who also uses it on her daughter said to apply it while her hair was already straightened and apply it to her whole head. This is where I made the big mistake! I should have stopped, I don't know why I didn't. But because her hair was dry it was clumping and I was pulling too much. When I rinsed it out I knew I had really ruined her hair, it was almost bone straight! Days later there was a lot of breakage. I took her to the salon and got her hair cut straight across in hopes of stopping the breakage. The breakage did stop and her hair looked healthy but the curls were still gone. Well it has been about 6-7 months and while the top of her hair is curly again the bottom stays straight. We have got it trimmed 3 more times since than.it seems that the more we cut it the straighter the bottom gets . Shouldn't the old growth be cut off by now? My question is, is there anything else I can do to get her curls back or have a permanently ruined it? I have stopped straightening to avoid breakage and I have gone back to her old hair style of braids. I'm sorry this is so long. If anyone does take the time to read it I would appreciate any thoughts. Thank you in advance
In an adult six months of growth averages three inches, could well be different in a young child. The demarcation is your guide to when the relaxer has grown out.

Not sure what you mean by have you permanently ruined her hair? If you mean will the straight parts revert to curly the answer is no. If you mean will it eventually all grow back curly the answer is probably.

Safer is a relative term so not the same as safe: relaxers/ texlaxers and curly perm solutions are highly alkaline so damaging to skin and hair which are both naturally acidic.

Maybe teach your little girl to love and appreciate her natural youthful beauty? There are plenty of curly groups and pages on Facebook and other social networking sites that celebrate natural hair.

HTH!
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CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
In an adult six months of growth averages three inches, could well be different in a young child. The demarcation is your guide to when the relaxer has grown out.

Not sure what you mean by have you permanently ruined her hair? If you mean will the straight parts revert to curly the answer is no. If you mean will it eventually all grow back curly the answer is probably.

Safer is a relative term so not the same as safe: relaxers/ texlaxers and curly perm solutions are highly alkaline so damaging to skin and hair which are both naturally acidic.

Maybe teach your little girl to love and appreciate her natural youthful beauty? There are plenty of curly groups and pages on Facebook and other social networking sites that celebrate natural hair.

HTH!
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
Thank you for taking the time to respond.. I am white so I have straight hair but I get a spiral perm at least once a year, I love curls. I only considered this softener because I read up on it and it said the purpose was to stop the frizzies..I never wanted her curls gone,,I think my daughter is comfortable with who and what she is and just wanted a little change.even though I perm my hair I straighten it too,she probably just wanted to do what she sees.I don't think she would have wanted it had she known this was the outcome. It's my mistake! I don't think there is any thing wrong with trying new things as long as it is done in a safe way.When I asked about her hair being ruined I meant as far as curls coming back..she could be bald and still be beautiful so I don't think any thing could ruin her or her hair. But the curls are important to me..I loved her natural look and I am in a panick over the lose of them. So just hearing you say they will probably grow back is a big help, thanks.
I made the same mistake with my daughter's hair, and it made her hair bone straight, her hair was mid back length so it took over two years to grow the so called texture softner completely out. Now her curls are back and I will never use those kind of chemicals in her hair again. So yes her natural curls pattern will definitely grow out, just keep clipping those straight ends until they are all gone.
My daughters texture went from 3a , 3b to bone straight. Now she is back at her 3a, 3b texture. Her curls are truly beautiful.

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