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Old 04-27-2010, 05:10 PM   #21
 
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Whooo goodness I can't stop laughing.. I know I shouldn't but I looked at the video and when that lady started talking about the "anti-breakage" formula.. and all it is .. is some sunflower oil.. I am about died. Whoooooooo goodness. LOL!

It's a shame how they target certain groups that are naive. But to those of us in the know...They aren't slick. They are pulling the same crap that another brand that calls theirs a "silkener" is pulling. You just put that oil in there to slow down the process of the straightening.

Look, you could just buy a regular relaxer..toss some oil and conditioner in it like all these "natural salons" do that "soften", "silken", or "texturize" the hair and get the same results.

This stuff isn't anything new.. folks have been doing this stuff for years. Oy.

People, all a "texturizer" is .. is a RELAXER. It's lye based (no-lye is still lye). The difference is with texturizers is that you just don't leave them on as long as relaxer and you dont' comb them through that way the curl in the hair doesn't relax straight..and you are left with some curl but it's looser. The oild and conditioners are put in the product to slow the processing down..that way you have some time to get it all in the hair before it starts to straighten it.

Thing is you have to be extremely careful with this stuff and you have to know what the texture of the hair is you are using it on.. for a person with curly but very fine hair that want to retain their curls..this could be DISASTEROUS.
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Old 04-28-2010, 08:20 PM   #22
 
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HAHAHAHA I just watched that video for the "instructions" and this product is so BLATANTLY marketed towards white moms with biracial kids or white moms with adopted ethnic kids that doesnt have A CLUE how to do hair. they made it look like giving a perm was a science fair project!
Yup, that sure is true! I would be laughing if the video didn't make me so sad and pissed off. I can't believe these products are marketed towards children -- why isn't it illegal to use this stuff on kids? I hate "relaxers" so much. But of course informed adults can do what they want - relaxing is mostly a victimless crime, lol. But pushing this stuff on moms of little girls is just so horrible. I guess this touched a nerve for me ....
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Old 05-17-2010, 12:40 AM   #23
 
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Hello my Sisters,

I was reading the posts, and I had to add my two cents.

First off...a texturizer IS A relaxer...don't be fooled, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. If it chemically loosens the curl, it is a relaxer. Remember the saying, "walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck".

I have very thick, dense, type 4a hair. When it's natural, I have to wet it to comb it.

And just in case anyone is wondering, I am not bi-racial, I am Black. I have a little Native Amer. and Euro waaaaaaaay back, but African is the pre-dominant ancestry ( as is the case with many Afro-Amer. ), so, I am Black.

I was natural for about 11 years. Working as a nurse, I had the freedom to do what I wanted with my hair, I wore braids, twists, afro-puffs, etc.. I had a career transition and got a corporate job, and yes, I succumbed to the pressure of the corp. world and decided to relax my hair.

I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my natural Black hair, so I didn't want it bone straight, I wanted to maintain some of my coils and curls so I decided to use a texturizer. Besides, I used a bone straight relaxer for most of my life ( my poor Mom had a hard time with my thick, dense, hair, so at age nine, she relaxed it).

The standard bone straight relaxers were terrible, my hair was consistently damaged and breaking. So, texturizers seemed to be the obvious choice.

I trusted the "stylist" with my hair, and allowed her to apply a so-called texturizer that they used in the salon, to my hair. Bad, bad decision. My hair went from scalp to floor.

I decided to try a new salon, AND bring my own kit. I happend upon the aforementioned product and decided to try it. Well, it has been almost three years, and I am very pleased with the results.

My hair is straighter than I would have liked it, but it is not bone straight. Unless you are wearing a short, pixie style, never, ever relax your hair until it is bone straight. If your hair is medium to long, allowing it to maintain a little of it's natural curn pattern will produce relaxed hair that has more body and bounce, making it healthier looking.

PLEASE NOTE: Any process that breaks the disulfide bonds of the hair strands, rendering them impossible to re-form, will without question, cause damage.

After you apply the relaxer, the damage has been done, that is a fact, BUT there are things you can do to help your hair maintain strength, and vitality.

1. As I mentioned earlier, unless your hair is styled in a short, pixie cut, do not relax your hair until it is bone straight. Your hair needs body in order to look healthy and vital. For medium to long hair, try using a texturizer like Just for Me. Your hair will look thicker and will have more bounce. I have seen ladies with hair relaxed so straight, it looks like it has been glued down....NOT a good look!

2. If relaxing at home, please make sure all of the relaxer has been washed out. Wash at least 3-4 times, then apply a deep conditioner. I use Organic Root Stimulator Replenishing Conditioner, follow package directions. If I have it, I add a little almond, avocado, coconut, wheat germ, and/or vitamin e oil, and shea butter to the conditioner. These oils are great for adding softness and shine. After hair has been conditioned, gently rinse out the conditioner with lukewarm/warm water. NOT HOT. Wring out your hair, do not rub it with a towel, this will cause even more damage. I recommend roller setting. If you choose to roller set or blow dry, use a leave-in conditioner. I use Infusium 23. Make sure your hair is well coated with it. Don't over use it, but dont under use it...use your discretion. Proceed to roller set hair. If you want your hair to appear straighter, you may use a CERAMIC flat-iron or curling iron to get it straighter, BUT do two very important things. Use an alcohol free heat protecting spray before using the iron ( I use Nexxus Heat Protexx), and keep the iron at it's lowest setting; too much heat is a bad move.

3. For hair washing in-between relaxers. Wash your hair every 5-7 days. Shampoo with a quality product, I use Dove Intense Moisture shampoo, always deep condition, and follow the steps I outlined in section 2. Wait at least 8 weeks before relaxing again.

If you have questions, suggestions, or want more info. Contact me. I'd love to hear from you.

Peace, love and tranquility y'all!
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:08 AM   #24
 
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oh yea, one more thing.

i agree with the Sisters who wrote that relaxers dont belong in children's heads.

it causes serious damage, and in my opinion, affects self-esteem

if you are a grown-up, and happy with yourself, do what you want.

but little girls are still forming opinions of themselves, so give them a chance to form an opinion of themselves as they really are. when they are older, and decide they want to relax well...talk about it.

I'm not knocking my Mom for relaxing my hair. She did the best she could, but it became too difficult for her. Even Black mothers have a hard time doing their daughter's natural hair. Luckily, my parents told me I was their beautiful baby girl, with natural hair, relaxed hair..whatever!

And if there are any White moms of Black/White bi-racial or Black children reading this, if you are having difficulty with your child's hair, dont worry about it. Some Black mothers have a hard time too, but if you have Black friends or coworkers that you trust, reach out and ask for advice. Comb the Internet for advice, and buy a couple books. I strongly recommend, No Lye by Tulani Kinard. It is an excellent guide for caring for natural Black hair.

Finally, this goes out to BOTH White mothers and Black mothers, please, dont allow your child to feel like their hair is a problem. If you notice that your child is embarrased or ashamed of their hair. Nip it in the bud right away.

OK I've added to two cents!

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parents please do not use this product. i seen a parent use it in my daughters preschool and it messed up the childs hair drastically!!!
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:51 PM   #26
 
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Whooo goodness I can't stop laughing.. I know I shouldn't but I looked at the video and when that lady started talking about the "anti-breakage" formula.. and all it is .. is some sunflower oil.. I am about died. Whoooooooo goodness. LOL!

It's a shame how they target certain groups that are naive. But to those of us in the know...They aren't slick. They are pulling the same crap that another brand that calls theirs a "silkener" is pulling. You just put that oil in there to slow down the process of the straightening.

Look, you could just buy a regular relaxer..toss some oil and conditioner in it like all these "natural salons" do that "soften", "silken", or "texturize" the hair and get the same results.

This stuff isn't anything new.. folks have been doing this stuff for years. Oy.

People, all a "texturizer" is .. is a RELAXER. It's lye based (no-lye is still lye). The difference is with texturizers is that you just don't leave them on as long as relaxer and you dont' comb them through that way the curl in the hair doesn't relax straight..and you are left with some curl but it's looser. The oild and conditioners are put in the product to slow the processing down..that way you have some time to get it all in the hair before it starts to straighten it.

Thing is you have to be extremely careful with this stuff and you have to know what the texture of the hair is you are using it on.. for a person with curly but very fine hair that want to retain their curls..this could be DISASTEROUS.

I used to JFM Texture Softener today. I only used half the cup (I have 5 inches of hair), add the oil to my hair, added some more Jojoba oil to my hair and in the cup. And left it in for a total of 10-12 minutes. I don't think it really did anything. I even combed it through But I'm done with texturizers!
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:03 PM   #27
 
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from what i know it works wonders and helped me maintain my natural curls even with my transition out of perms in to all natural. i am thinking about gn bc
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Whooo goodness I can't stop laughing.. I know I shouldn't but I looked at the video and when that lady started talking about the "anti-breakage" formula.. and all it is .. is some sunflower oil.. I am about died. Whoooooooo goodness. LOL!

It's a shame how they target certain groups that are naive. But to those of us in the know...They aren't slick. They are pulling the same crap that another brand that calls theirs a "silkener" is pulling. You just put that oil in there to slow down the process of the straightening.

Look, you could just buy a regular relaxer..toss some oil and conditioner in it like all these "natural salons" do that "soften", "silken", or "texturize" the hair and get the same results.

This stuff isn't anything new.. folks have been doing this stuff for years. Oy.

People, all a "texturizer" is .. is a RELAXER. It's lye based (no-lye is still lye). The difference is with texturizers is that you just don't leave them on as long as relaxer and you dont' comb them through that way the curl in the hair doesn't relax straight..and you are left with some curl but it's looser. The oild and conditioners are put in the product to slow the processing down..that way you have some time to get it all in the hair before it starts to straighten it.

Thing is you have to be extremely careful with this stuff and you have to know what the texture of the hair is you are using it on.. for a person with curly but very fine hair that want to retain their curls..this could be DISASTEROUS.

( true thing is it really did help my breakage)
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:37 PM   #29
 
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Whooo goodness I can't stop laughing.. I know I shouldn't but I looked at the video and when that lady started talking about the "anti-breakage" formula.. and all it is .. is some sunflower oil.. I am about died. Whoooooooo goodness. LOL!

It's a shame how they target certain groups that are naive. But to those of us in the know...They aren't slick. They are pulling the same crap that another brand that calls theirs a "silkener" is pulling. You just put that oil in there to slow down the process of the straightening.

Look, you could just buy a regular relaxer..toss some oil and conditioner in it like all these "natural salons" do that "soften", "silken", or "texturize" the hair and get the same results.

This stuff isn't anything new.. folks have been doing this stuff for years. Oy.

People, all a "texturizer" is .. is a RELAXER. It's lye based (no-lye is still lye). The difference is with texturizers is that you just don't leave them on as long as relaxer and you dont' comb them through that way the curl in the hair doesn't relax straight..and you are left with some curl but it's looser. The oild and conditioners are put in the product to slow the processing down..that way you have some time to get it all in the hair before it starts to straighten it.

Thing is you have to be extremely careful with this stuff and you have to know what the texture of the hair is you are using it on.. for a person with curly but very fine hair that want to retain their curls..this could be DISASTEROUS.

( true thing is it really did help my breakage)
so you're saying that they texturizer helped reduce breakage? (mainly from SSKs, right?) I had a ton of SSKs before the texturizer, and now, I don't beause my hair doesn't tangle as much
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:27 PM   #30
 
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Default help i think just for me texture softener messed up my hair

i think i might have messed up my hair when iused this softener. ok so i used it last december but instead of leaving it for five mins my mom left it for 30 and kept combing it through so as i suspected, it came out straight. well most parts anyway, and the rest was still coarse and kinky. i am half indian half negro so you can imagine my hair. so i did it again after a month and some of the curl was restored but some parts were still straight. i decided i will let everything grow out and do it all over again. but people keep telling me it looks like it has broken. help please. thats nott the rest of the story but i dont want to bombard anyone please help!
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:33 PM   #31
 
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i think i might have messed up my hair when iused this softener. ok so i used it last december but instead of leaving it for five mins my mom left it for 30 and kept combing it through so as i suspected, it came out straight. well most parts anyway, and the rest was still coarse and kinky. i am half indian half negro so you can imagine my hair. so i did it again after a month and some of the curl was restored but some parts were still straight. i decided i will let everything grow out and do it all over again. but people keep telling me it looks like it has broken. help please. thats nott the rest of the story but i dont want to bombard anyone please help!
First of all a month is way to soon to reapply this kind of chemical treatment. If your hair is breaking extensively I suggest you get it cut before the damage gets worse. If you want to chemically alter your hair again use this growing out phase to do your research on how to care for it. Or you can learn to care for your hair in its natural state. I also suggest you visit the transitioning section because growing out chemicals is a difficult process.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:38 PM   #32
 
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IMO chemicals should never be used on a child's hair. Texturixer, softener, silkener whatever. I remember the chemical burns I used to get and I almost always went to pro stylists. Why would anyone risk putting something capable of burning the scalp of the child you love is beyond me.
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