I'm more angry at GOP than BP

I expect BP to be sociopathic in their doings. Big Oil is known for not caring about individuals' safety and the environment, all for the big bucks.
Our government, both GOP and Dems, from the Executive/Legislative branches are guilty of not regulating them better.
The solution isn't deregulation!! Ugggh!
So, I've been watching FOX to see how they're spinning all of this...and I just can't believe it.
OMG!!!
Their talking points are disgusting. I would think that the average Republican would be disgusted with what the GOP and Fox are saying.
The GOP keeps contradicting themselves too. Is Obama doing too much or not doing enough? Is BP the real victim here? Are you really against the 20Billion escrow, really? You do realize BP violated the law and deserve worse than this, right?
Again, this isn't just about Bush Jr. This has been a problem since Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush Jr, and Obama. Deregulating sociopathic companies is ridiculous!!! I'm not saying individuals in this company are inherently sociopathic, even though we're finding out that perhaps they are sociopathic. But Big Business is inherently sociopathic...it's about maximizing profits and to hell with the consequences.
We have to balance things out if we want to keep our capitalistic society. By the way, I am not a socialist.
Big Business has been a positive in our society...but we have to balance things out by correcting and preventing any abuses they can do to us and to our environment.

So, here's what I want to know. Like I said, I would thing the average Republican would be pissed at BP. But I'm not getting that feeling. At least not from a few people I've talked to. Granted, they don't like what BP did, but their focus is on Obama, all the way. So, what should Obama do?
I agree on one part...I don't think Obama is blameless. However, he's already having to fix crises that was given to him. I'm not so sure this was on his radar, as there were way more important things at the time on his radar. However, it was on his watch. We can't just blame Bush Jr or any other president, if we're not willing to blame Obama as well.

But I think it's because Obama should've been MORE liberal, not less.
How much you want to bet that Republican politicians and Fox will frame this in such a way that the average Republican (and Independent) voter will go, "duh, Republicans have a better solution to this problem."
Really?

Uggggh!
I expect BP to be a snake. We should't be surprised that they bit us in the ass. What I expect is better oversight from our government. More oversight, not less.
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The sad truth is, people interpret reality to fit their own personal bias. We all do this, to differing degrees. It takes will and openness to resist it.

I'm not sure what the real motive is behind the ideology at Fox News. I don't know if they are true believers, or just stoking the far right anger because it's profitable for them. But they are going to interpret everything -- and I do mean everything -- in a way that blames Obama. And other Democrats. And others who dislike Democrats and Obama will do the same.

And yes, of course, my perception of this is based in my own political ideology.... I do realize this. I'm not sure what the answer is. I think it's wonderful that you actually try to understand all points of view, and make sense of them. That's what people need to do. But the flipside is.... sometimes you are looking for logic, and reason, and fairness, where none exists. Frustrating, isn't it?
i honestly think that Obama could've been down holding back the oil with his bare hands and someone *ahem Fox News and the GOP* would say that he's not doing enough or that he's doing way too much by interfering so much.
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The sad truth is, people interpret reality to fit their own personal bias. We all do this, to differing degrees. It takes will and openness to resist it.

I'm not sure what the real motive is behind the ideology at Fox News. I don't know if they are true believers, or just stoking the far right anger because it's profitable for them. But they are going to interpret everything -- and I do mean everything -- in a way that blames Obama. And other Democrats. And others who dislike Democrats and Obama will do the same.

And yes, of course, my perception of this is based in my own political ideology.... I do realize this. I'm not sure what the answer is. I think it's wonderful that you actually try to understand all points of view, and make sense of them. That's what people need to do. But the flipside is.... sometimes you are looking for logic, and reason, and fairness, where none exists. Frustrating, isn't it?
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I think I'm going to give up being mad or about wondering why people believe the way they do. My husband has complete opposite political view point than me (well, about most issues...we do agree on a few. We're both pro-choice, we're both for the death penalty--I know throw rotten tomatoes at me-- we're both for guns ownership rights with some restrictions though). But really. His response to the news is so different from mine. I can't help but resent him sometimes or think he's being a dumb @ss. But he's not a dumb @ss normally. He is a good person (for the most part, he has his moments, but so do I). I guess it's just the way it is. It's not like my views or his views are going to change to world. I am going to continue to do what I think is right in my corner of the world and he will do likewise. Many times our actions are similar but we have different reasons for doing so, if that makes sense.
Our experiences can be so different.
I will stand up to social injustices. There are a lot of gray areas in politics, but outright abuse towards women or minorities, for instance, will make my blood boil and I will say something!
I am so tired of getting angry at "the other side." They are either stupid, selfish, crazy, or they just have a point of view that for whatever reason I will never fully understand.
I can understand bits and pieces. I'm a moderate in a lot of ways. I can see some legitimacy to having both sides. I understand why people can be fiscal conservatives, for instance. I understand why people can be pro-life, for instance.
But some things just seem cold and heartless or just plain ignorant to me. I really don't know how to handle this anymore, so maybe I'll just have to say "we'll agree to disagree." And yet, it still doesn't sit well with me.

I am "forced" to hear FOX News. My husband watches it a lot and I'm not going to tell him he can't watch it. It's in the background. He would watch a lot more, but we end up watching other shows too. LOL
Still, my blood starts to boil when I hear Beck or Hannity, a little with O'Reilly, and even their "journalistic" reporting is often couched in terms that are so biased and so anti-Obama, my head starts to spin. And it spins more when I see my husband falling for it. Uggh!
So maybe it's that I just don't understand something. Could that be? Seriously! I'm going crazy being a moderate (with slightly more liberal leanings) in an ultra-conservative culture (I'm in Texas...yee haw!) My family is conservative (various degrees on where they stand on particular issues...like my father is fiscally conservative, Anti-Obama. My mother isn't anti-Obama, and kind of was for Health care, but she's pro-life. etc.) My husband lied to me and told me he was moderate (yes he's pro-Choice, he's against all the creationism taught in school too--yay!)...but really, for 99 percent of the issues it seems, he is ultra-conservative. Ugggh!
He isn't a bad guy. So what gives?
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oh yeah, it's my thread, and it was supposed to be about GOP and BP.
My bad.
I guess since it's my thread I can change it up. LOL

I'm about to get to "I don't care anymore" about the oil spill. The people on the coast wants continued deep oil drilling. It's a big part of the economy, I understand that. But they are angry too. If you are republican and really are for deregulation, you want deep water drilling, you want government to butt out, then what? The fishing industry is ruined, at least for awhile, but maybe for a long, long while. 11 people were killed! And yet, I really think they will for the most part continue to vote republican. I don't understand it. And yet, I do understand them wanting to keep their jobs with the oil company. But really...why all this anti-Obama talk? If we're going to continue drilling, shouldn't we regulate them? If we end up having alternative sources for energy, wouldn't that be jobs for them too? Maybe not...maybe it would go elsewhere, I don't know.
I know there's more than one side to every story, but it seems like the outrage is very extreme and often detrimental to themselves.
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I'm surprised this hasn't gotten louder press.

Obama administration underestimates BP oil spill.
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