Racism: do you think it's going away in the US or making a comeback?

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I'm with the first lady, I speak out against anything that is wrong no matter the color.

I was "speaking up" sitting here in front of my computer before the lady said something in the video, [and wondering why the girl's boyfriend didn't say something...smh]...LOL!
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"Making a comeback"?! It never left hun, it's called institutionalized racism, internal racism/mental slavery. I think some people confuse the words segregation & slavery with racism, NO. They aren't synonymous, no need for whips & chains when you have their minds which is far more powerful.
When I was 6, I never knew what racism. I went to a predominant white elementary school and I never really experienced racism from the kids until 1st Grade. I remember when it was black history month they never spent time to talk about it and the reason why we have it. They only talked about MLK and that was for 5 minutes. Anyways everybody would stare at me and the throughout the whole entire day. The kids kept asking me about my hair and then touching it without permission. I complained to the teachers about it and they just ignored me. There was one time I forgot to put lotion on and one boy asked me if I was trying to be white and that it would be better if I was (around 4th grade). After a while I began to hate myself and wish I was white. I realized what I was thinking was wrong so in 5th grade I told my dad to take me out of the school and I began a self love journey.

Now I go to a diverse middle school which I like.

I went to a laundry mat a few days ago with my family and by accident I took a mans basket. After returning it to him, he came up to my family saying "Do you speak English?" We answered yes and out of no where we hear "You f*****g thieves, why the hell did you touch my basket? We don't need you people in our country, you should've stuck to picking cotton!" The man left and of course we were mad as hell.

After that I was wondering if racism is making a comeback in a America and will it ever go away. I've dealt with racism a lot and its getting to the point where I think the US is putting a blind eye over racism and pretending it doesn't exists and slavery never happened.
Originally Posted by BeautyisMiree
I also went to an all white school while in middle school. I was in an academically gifted program so I was chosen to be "bused" out of my school to integrate a white school in the 6th grade, [along with 9 others, 4 boys and 6 girls].

Due to my being mixed I had more problems with my people than Caucasian people. I did have one problem though...

There was a girl in my class who I thought was my friend. We would talk in class about many things and share beauty tips. It seemed there was never a problem. One day I was on my way to gym and I saw her with her friends in the hall. As I passed, I said "Hey Liz, see you in gym class" and kept on walking. Then I heard her call me a n___a, and state she didn't have anything to do with me.

I was so shocked because my mom taught us that anyone could be a n___a because the definition was a "no class, ignorant, undignified person" and so there are n___as in all nationalities. Secondly, because I knew my mom was breaking her back since the death of my dad to provide for us and to give us a decent upbringing...I was one of the best dressed in that school! So I felt she had insulted my mom.

By the time I got to the gym I was so hurt and angry that I was in tears, I stopped by the stairs and turned to go back to her, [not knowing what I would say], but by then she was coming up with her friends. I didn't think, just grabbed her and threw her down the stairs. Thank God it was a short flight, [about 6-8 steps]. I was shocked at me, it seemed like a bad dream from start to finish.

I ended up in the principal's office, they called my mom and she came up. I refuse to apologize until she apologized to me for calling me a name. After that there were no more problems. They couldn't make me a disciplinary problem because I had no problems before, [or after].

Ah, well...

I think racism has increased since the election of Pres. Obama. So many are angry that he is "in charge" and they cannot take it out on him so they "attack" at our level.

I have a tendency to let people know that exercising their racism at me can become a very "expensive habit". People acting out their prejudices against black people is common place because so many do nothing about it legally.

We have rights, and we need to stop pretending that racism doesn't exist as long as those who are racist continue to behave as though it does.

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I don't know if it's becoming more common, or if racist people just feel like it has become more commonly acceptable to be openly racist. I think it's related to the hostile political climate, especially as espoused by the TeaParty, and on FOX News. People who are racists sure seem to be more blatant about it than they did in a long time, but I also see that people who aren't also seemed to have stepping up to say how abhorrent we find racist behavior and verbal abuse.

I think it's an outgrowth of dog whistle politics.
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I don't thing racism will ever go away. As long as people continue to look different from each other. Even within races/ethnicities you still find colorism. It's a depressing thought. However, I feel Americans are becoming more tolerant of each other.
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I grew up in the Pacific Northwest and racism just wasn't something I grew up with but learning about it later on, I realize that there are always going to be people with a very narrow view of what makes a person "acceptable". Often that's a color, but sometimes it's not. And no one should ever be treated as "less than" due to something beyond his or her control and when it comes to color, the 'rainbow of humanity' is what makes this world a beautiful place.

However, nowadays there is something that's been tossed around that I think is a serious issue. That's calling folks "racist" simply because they disagree with a person or his or her policies. Personally, I think President Obama seems like a very nice person and he has a contagious smile; the kind that makes you smile too. He's a phenomenal parent to his daughters; I pretty much think he and Michelle are doing everything right by them. There are some things policy-wise that I personally don't see eye-to-eye with him and yes, there are people in the media who have said that folks with my political views are "racist". That couldn't be farther from the truth. My own family members are various races; my grandparents adopted several children of various races and I grew up with some of them (they weren't much older than I am). I know that the folks in the media are trying to get a "rise" out of people by calling them racist but it's a serious problem because doing that is going to minimize the reaction to REAL racism. And that's a real problem, in my opinion.


P.S. I'm extremely Conservative and espouse the Tea Party viewpoints. The TEA stands for "Taxed Enough Already" (by the government) and has nothing whatsoever to do with race or color. I would never tolerate anyone around me making racist remarks. Just so you know.
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I agree with much of what Angela says, but I'm a democrat and think things are a mess politically. I'm less interested in Obama's smile than his policies, and wish he'd been more successful in many areas. I find much of what many republicans argue isn't merely racist, it's anti-human.

One thing I note lately is that when publicity is involved, alleged racists are punished more swiftly and harshly than I recall from the past. No one wants to be associated with a racist. I feel that quite a lot of racism goes on behind the scenes, but that it's largely become a punishable offense to speak or act in a racist manner in public.

I don't watch or listen to political TV or radio. My source for news is NPR and reputable sources (i.e., credible, substantiated, and with a history of solid investigation) on the internet.

As for institutional racism, I just don't know how it can be fought on an international level. I can vote for laws or policies that seek to level the playing field, but is there real success? I think we live in a viciously unfair world, and that's hard to stomach without becoming bitter and disgusted with life.
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I agree with much of what Angela says, but I'm a democrat and think things are a mess politically. I'm less interested in Obama's smile than his policies, and wish he'd been more successful in many areas. I find much of what many republicans argue isn't merely racist, it's anti-human.
Originally Posted by claudine191
I wholeheartedly agree that things are a mess politically and I don't consider myself a Republican. I'm independent; I've never registered as a Republican and yes, some of the Republicans in government are abject failures...just like some of the Democrats.

Personally, I think that if "two sides" can look at the other and realize that they truly and honestly want a better world for people then we would agree more often. People who are liberal want the poor and downtrodden cared for and you know what? So do the Conservatives! We simply disagree on how that will work out policy-wise. I don't put a lot of stock in government solving many of our problems but there are programs that do take care of people including many children and I am strong on making sure those programs work and work correctly (minus fraud and unnecessary "admin fees"...there is too much waste in government). As someone who classifies themselves as a Christian I believe it is our personal responsibility to do what we can to help others over and above what the government takes from us. I believe this is expected of us based on what I have seen in the Bible and those who are not reaching out to help others are in the wrong.

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I personally think that people from all sides of the "political spectrum" truly want what's best for the average or the poor American and we simply disagree on what policies will get us there.

P.S. I personally think "D.C. Politicians" get too comfortable with the power and money that is found in the Beltway and don't do their best to represent their districts...and this is politicians from both political parties. I'm not sure how to solve this problem but I do think it's a problem. There is too much money and power in Washington D.C.


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Last edited by AngelaE8654; 05-08-2014 at 02:27 PM.
I just don't know, AngelaE. I just don't know if people will take care of each other when the situation arises. There's so much inequity in income and opportunity in the world that just doesn't seem to be addressed. Schoolgirls are being kidnapped in Nigeria and no one with power is intervening......and it's making me sick.

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I just don't know, AngelaE. I just don't know if people will take care of each other when the situation arises. There's so much inequity in income and opportunity in the world that just doesn't seem to be addressed. Schoolgirls are being kidnapped in Nigeria and no one with power is intervening......and it's making me sick.
Originally Posted by claudine191
Me too, claudine. I agree with your entire post.
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This is the sort of thing that really pisses me off about politics. Again, I think the average person on both sides of the political spectrum truly want to help others. But there is so much waste and bad behavior in politics it's truly disgusting. This person was paid by us, the taxpayers, to do a particular job and we depended on the job being done. Instead, he was viewing porn for up to six hours every day. Six hours!!

Regardless of whether you think viewing porn is "okay" or not (personally, I think that what people choose to do in private is fine as long as it's not harmful to someone else), doing it on the taxpayer's dime is outrageous. Truly outrageous.

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I personally do not think that much has changed about racism since the days of slavery. Some Whites had pleasant feelings toward their slaves that they owned during those times just as some have pleasant feelings toward some of the Blacks they get to know personally nowadays.

Below the surface, however, many of the private thoughts and sentiments remain the same. The only thing that has changed is that nowadays it is more socially unacceptable to express these sentiments publicly. That is not even so actually. The comments made publicly by many Republicans are very shallowly disguised racism. Also the comments made by many privately would curl your hair! So therefore, I can not say that there is more racism now. Rather, I would have to say that it has probably remained about constant during the past 200 or 300 years.
I personally do not think that much has changed about racism since the days of slavery. Some Whites had pleasant feelings toward their slaves that they owned during those times just as some have pleasant feelings toward some of the Blacks they get to know personally nowadays.

Below the surface, however, many of the private thoughts and sentiments remain the same. The only thing that has changed is that nowadays it is more socially unacceptable to express these sentiments publicly. That is not even so actually. The comments made publicly by many Republicans are very shallowly disguised racism. Also the comments made by many privately would curl your hair! So therefore, I can not say that there is more racism now. Rather, I would have to say that it has probably remained about constant during the past 200 or 300 years.
Originally Posted by dixygirl
If that's true that would be a sad state of affairs. I suspect you're right that some people might have the same type of feelings. However, I don't believe that it's anywhere near as prevalent as it once was. Back in the day, blacks and whites couldn't use the same restrooms, drinking fountains, attend the same schools, etc etc etc. Nowadays, not only is it not socially acceptable to create these sorts of scenarios (which is a big step in the right direction), it's illegal. Which means that minorities are protected by the law of the land.

I think that kids were once taught by their parents that minorites were "less than" but that is not as much the case these days. Before civil rights were recognized, state governors could do things like stand in the doorway of a University to block minority children from attending that school. If that sort of thing were to happen today, the governor would be in serious trouble both in the view of the public as well as legally. (My mom told us about that situation when we were very small and talked about it many times through the years. She hated that governor for what he did to those kids. Really, really hated him.)

No, I don't believe racism is what it was years ago but I do believe we all need to continue to strive toward a country where all people are recognized as the valuable additions to society that they are. Some of the most profound words ever spoken are these:

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.



Don't get caught up in the political posturing that creates a scenario that doesn't actually exist. Most of that is simply the politics of "making the other side look bad". There is no "bad side" nowadays. There are simply people who disagree on HOW to help people. Both sides DO want to help people. Don't forget that.

P.S. The KKK was started by the Democrats, not the Republicans.

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Wow what a positive an optimistic post Angela. Thanks for that.
Maybe one day people will live up to those wonderful ideals you expressed.
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I think racism evolved as society changed. Its subtle. Like the elephant in the room. It's a problem that people think will go away through igoring it or being colorblind.

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Wow what a positive an optimistic post Angela. Thanks for that.
Maybe one day people will live up to those wonderful ideals you expressed.
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I hope so, dixygirl. I truly do.
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I think racism evolved as society changed. Its subtle. Like the elephant in the room. It's a problem that people think will go away through igoring it or being colorblind.

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Originally Posted by oohoohdejavu
I agree that racism has likely evolved. I read a post somewhere where the person talked about something he called "tribalism" where people like being with people who are like themselves and that probably is a "human nature" sort of thing. However, think about how much we're missing by only hanging out with folks who are similar to us. I do think that the fact that racism is socially unacceptable is a very, very good thing. "Peer pressure for the greater good" can help a lot.

I've always talked about the fact that if everyone on earth had the same degree and type of beauty that society at large subscribes to, then we would all be plain. For instance, if we all had stick straight blond hair, fair skin, and big blue eyes then that would become "average" and everybody would be average. If we all looked like a beautiful woman from India with long, super thick black hair, dark eyes, and olive skin then that would become "average". It's our differences that make the world colorful and we should not only "accept" differences in other people, but celebrate those differences. Who wants to live in a plain, gray world? I certainly do not.
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