View Poll Results: What is your Political Affiliation?
Registered Democrat 35 53.85%
Registered Republican 16 24.62%
Registered Independent 6 9.23%
Unregistered; Votes don't count anyway 2 3.08%
Ineligible to vote but I still care 6 9.23%
Earthlings! Back to the Twilight Zone where I rule 0 0%
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2008 Presidential Candidates

Please refrain from attacking each other, and return to the topic at hand.
Originally Posted by WebjockeyGuide
Thank you moderator. That is what I respectfully requested last week so I hope that you get a better response than I did.
Please refrain from attacking each other, and return to the topic at hand.
Originally Posted by WebjockeyGuide
Thank you moderator. That is what I respectfully requested last week so I hope that you get a better response than I did.
Originally Posted by ohura
I am not trying to be a “swooper” but I think Webbie was talking to you, ohura.

You said some pretty harsh (and ridiculous) things to Cherish below. Also, what you wrote is very xenophobic and offensive to immigrants in the US. I know you are new and a "zealous" citizen but come on…….


And you can get pissy and speak off topic BS as much as you want but in case you are new to America (your "Black Brit" picture and profile just popped up after your first post in this topic), morals matter and hypocrisy is an issue. We are a bit more prudish in this country, get used to it or get out.

I expect your BS to continue so please oblige. Your lack of knowledge of the topic is entertaining. Your need to say anything even when irrelevant is more entertaining. The fact that if you really are "Black Brit", you are not eligible to vote in this country and your "response to [this] thread" means as much as all the BS you said before---this is most entertaining and hilarious on top.
Originally Posted by ohura
We're all born mad. Some remain so.

Join Date: Dec 1999
Posts: 6,581
I am an idependent and my sole ideology is objectivity.
Originally Posted by ohura
morals matter and hypocrisy is an issue. We are a bit more prudish in this country, get used to it or get out.
Originally Posted by ohura
Please refrain from attacking each other, and return to the topic at hand.
Originally Posted by WebjockeyGuide
I am not trying to be a “swooper” but I think Webbie was talking to you, ohura.

You said some pretty harsh (and ridiculous) things to Cherish below. Also, what you wrote is very xenophobic and offensive to immigrants in the US. I know you are new and a "zealous" citizen but come on…….
Originally Posted by Cehua
1. For supposedly not attempting "swooping", Cehua, you did a good job of it. I think that the moderator was referring to us both and it is clear from your post above that you chose to ignore her suggestion just as cherish chose to ignore mine. :P Try sticking to the "topic at hand"... and because you did not, you can add yourself to the list of irrelevant jibberish the moderator spoke of; now that makes three of us.

2. What you think about my comments are immaterial, just a pixel on the screen clearly wanting attention. I can see for the veterans that it is more important to see your ID on the screen than to contribute to the "topic at hand". There must be some reward for having many posts or the most posts. Is there some sort of ranking system for people with the most posts because it would explain this need to "swoop" or say something even when it is just fodder? If not, I would like to propose a reward for the person with the least going on in real life and therefore the most posts or the most "zealous" desire to post irrelevancies. Harsh, if you wish, but there are two life lessons about my words for "zealous" high post-count seekers: "The truth hurts." and "The truth shall set you free."

3. Too bad this is like 3rd grade: "You can't say that to my friend. I don't care what she said to you. No, I can't read what she said because my nose is too far up her butt but I still don't like you giving back to her like she tries to give. Besides I want everyone else on the playground to see that we are the chicks in charge and I want them to see us telling you off so that we can feel like we rule the schoolyard anyways. This is third grade and you can't talk to my friend that way! She can't stick up for herself so we will try to intimidate you because you are new. Don't talk to us like we talk to you, newbie! Sure, we could have minded our business but that would have required smarts and maturity so instead we do this. We are the oldest on this playground and therefore you are wrong because we say so. We will TRY to gang up on you because we have not realized that it won't work with you like it must work on all other newbies. Whaaa. Whaaa. Whaaa. (We will continue avoiding the "topic at hand" in lieu of useless diatribe---next we will have more of our other third grade friends join in with useless diatriable---so that our post counts can continue to rise. Yes, that's right newbie, nothing counts too so just sit back and watch our post count rise because we have alot of nothing to say. Yippee!!!" Cry me a river already!
From Non-hair discussion forum
Subject: "has this place picked up a bit, lately?"
Quote1: Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:17 pm
Quote2: Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:33 pm

Well, I'm just trying retain my rank (162) when I get too busy to post so much. I would hate to drop out of the Top 200 Posters
Originally Posted by Cherish
My new rank is 151
Originally Posted by Cherish
Well, well, well. These explain alot.
Wow!!!! This thread would be HUGE on the nonhair board!

I am a registered Democrat. I too appreciate objectivity, but I am not very objective in my voting.

I vote Democrat because they "stand" for more issues that are of social concern to me. I can take care of my own morals, and want others to have that same right, and think it is the job of the Church to evangelize the way the Bible set forth instead of attempting to get morals legislated into American schools, government, etc. Unfortunately, Republicans have become somewhat synonymous with religious zealotry, self-declared moral superiority, and general intolerance. I know that every member of the party is not that way, but that is the bulk of what I perceive from the darlings of the media. So, as the only issues I have in common with most Republicans I've seen or heard talk are religious, I choose to do that work through the church and attempt to use government to help the poor (something that Christians should be big on, but don't hold the bar on) and allow people the right to listen to me or not about my religious views/ideologies.

I don't think either party is perfect, and neither party has a lock on God's values. So, I can understand why good Christians, and good people, would choose either party.
People rise to the standard expected of them. GC
That was an intersting post, dia99.
After this week's events, I have decided that Lindsay Graham may make a run for it in '08 or '12.
well, i guess a lot of people are basically forecasting that hillary clinton will be running in 2008. at first i wasn't sure if i could bring myself to vote for her, but she's kinda growing on me a little. it all really depends on who her running mate is and who she's running against. personally, i adore bill clinton and i think hillary would probably do a comparable job as president.

as far as republicans go, i guess john mccain is still saying that he won't run in 2008. i was him on the tonight show a couple of months ago, and when jay asked him about running in 2008, he said, "jay, in 2008 i will BE 2008." i would love it if he ran, though. he was a write-in for a bunch of my friends last time, and i have a tremendous amount of respect for the man. people are also saying that sen. bill frist (TN) may run, but who's to say for sure?!?!
One doesn't register for a party in my state (Georgia). Here, you show up the day of the primary and vote in whichever party's primary you want. Depending on the election, I may decide to vote in either primary.

Of the Republicans, I like Guilliani, McCain and Rice. I would probably be most happy with Guilliani on politics, McCain on "presence" and Rice for historical reasons, and because she is just as much of a hawk as the other two. But I don't know her social politics and doubt I would care for them.
Dems, I like Obama and Lieberman. Obama is too young to get the nomination, and Lieberman isn't electable.
Of the Republicans, I like Guilliani, McCain and Rice. I would probably be most happy with Guilliani on politics, McCain on "presence" and Rice for historical reasons, and because she is just as much of a hawk as the other two. But I don't know her social politics and doubt I would care for them. Dems, I like Obama and Lieberman. Obama is too young to get the nomination, and Lieberman isn't electable.
Originally Posted by Lucille
What historical reasons?

What historical reasons?
Originally Posted by ohura
We would finally have a woman president; we would finally have a black president. Once we have a first, it will clear the way for others and give other women and other blacks a real shot at the presidency. I also think that the first woman and first black to be elected president are more likely to be conservatives; so she has a better chance than anyone potentially willing to run right now. (Arguably Powell could have done so as the first black, but he will not run.)

So to be grammatically uptight, I should have said, for "historic" reasons and not "historical." Clearer now?
I want Edwards to win. I'm finally 18, but I won't get to vote for president for awhile . Oh well, I'm going to vote in California's special elecetion, so I guess that's good enough.
I want Edwards to win. I'm finally 18, but I won't get to vote for president for awhile . Oh well, I'm going to vote in California's special elecetion, so I guess that's good enough.
Originally Posted by curlyincali
At least you time to get informed for your decision in the next election.

Who are you liking for Cali?
I could not participate in the poll.

I am registered as Undeclared. I tend to vote Democrat, but for some reason I won't commit to that on my voter's registration card.
Originally Posted by Sigi
I used to be like that when I registered to vote at 18 but by the next election I realized how important it was to vote in the Primaries especially for my local government.

I still consider myself undeclared because I do not believe in the exact politics of any party. But in order to exercise my right to vote on all levels of the voting process I had to officially register with a one of the larger parties.
Originally Posted by Cehua
Exact same thing here! I was so disappointed when I realized I couldn't vote in my first primary.
"It is wrong to use moral means to preserve immoral ends." MLK, Jr.

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I want Kucinich to come back.

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Originally Posted by spring1onu
I like having something "down below"
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Originally Posted by smurfette
What would you call it, sci-fi guru?
don't click this. seriously.
I want Kucinich to come back.

Originally Posted by agent compassion
Same here

I shall wait and see who runs.

I know that I cannot stand Hillary because she says one thing on the Senate record but then in front of the press says the complete opposite in response to polling and the public opinion of the day. In that regard, she is as bad as Kerry, just much much more suave and smooth about it.

She relies on the fact that people do not actually read the Senate transcripts so she then says whatever she wants in the media. As long as she keeps her message mostly consistent in the media (this is where Kerry failed), the general public for the most part will not know that she says the exact opposite within the senate.

Again I encourage all: please read the Senate transcripts. They are free online.

..Peace
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I would love to see Nancy Pelosi as the first female president or vice president, but as far as I know she has no further political aspirations above her current position.
Wow!!!! This thread would be HUGE on the nonhair board!

I am a registered Democrat. I too appreciate objectivity, but I am not very objective in my voting.

I vote Democrat because they "stand" for more issues that are of social concern to me. I can take care of my own morals, and want others to have that same right, and think it is the job of the Church to evangelize the way the Bible set forth instead of attempting to get morals legislated into American schools, government, etc. Unfortunately, Republicans have become somewhat synonymous with religious zealotry, self-declared moral superiority, and general intolerance. I know that every member of the party is not that way, but that is the bulk of what I perceive from the darlings of the media. So, as the only issues I have in common with most Republicans I've seen or heard talk are religious, I choose to do that work through the church and attempt to use government to help the poor (something that Christians should be big on, but don't hold the bar on) and allow people the right to listen to me or not about my religious views/ideologies.

I don't think either party is perfect, and neither party has a lock on God's values. So, I can understand why good Christians, and good people, would choose either party.
Originally Posted by dia99
This is a wonderful post, based on what my mother taught me you are the way a real Christian is supposed to be.

God Bless you Dia

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