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Old 09-28-2005, 03:57 PM   #1
 
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I mean this man (Tom DeLay) is the House majority leader. The influence he has and he is involved with that other scum bag (Abramoff) I mentioned in another post. I think Abramoff must have turned over some goods on DeLay for some sort of break. Who knows he still may get out of this. But, at least someone is trying to do their job and bust these cronies.

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Old 10-05-2005, 09:53 AM   #2
 
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:50 PM   #3
 
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Sorry, it wasn't suppose to be a question. Hardly anyone replies anyway. It was more of a rant and or FYI. I live in the D.C. area so when I drink my coffee in the morning I read about the sad state of affairs.

But, here is a question... If the republicans represent the "moral majority" then why are they so corrupt? And think that they are above the law? I'm just venting.
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I'm sure that if you spent the equal time searching for corruption in the democratic party you will find the same amout of it. Corruption is everywhere, all we can do is affiliate ourself with the one that core values match your own and hope for the best. Don't let it consume you.
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Old 10-05-2005, 08:52 PM   #5
 
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Corruption is everywhere, all we can do is affiliate ourself with the one that core values match your own and hope for the best. Don't let it consume you.
Or you could speak out against corruption when you see it no matter what political party affiliation. AND you can stop saying "he's just as bad" like that makes it okay. It's this kind of complaceny that harms all future generations.
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Old 10-06-2005, 08:31 AM   #6
 
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Yes, there is corruption everywhere. But, this office in particular has set us back quite a bit. for example, pharmacists now can refuse you birth control if they choose so. The U.S. has lost a lot of its credibility with other nations. We have a devastating budget deficit. A fanatic Christian coalition has emerged and taken power by contributing financially to the republican party that is willing to promote their agenda. Racism is at an all-time high. This is corruption at its worst. Not just a little "look-the-other-way" kind. Although, people obviously still do.
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:09 PM   #7
 
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Corruption is everywhere, all we can do is affiliate ourself with the one that core values match your own and hope for the best. Don't let it consume you.
Or you could speak out against corruption when you see it no matter what political party affiliation. AND you can stop saying "he's just as bad" like that makes it okay. It's this kind of complaceny that harms all future generations.
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Old 10-06-2005, 03:06 PM   #8
 
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I was speaking to LaVidaCurly when I wrote "don't let it consume you". I agree that if you see corruption you should do something about it, but it should not consume your life. LaVida has created several topics about the same issue, I just advice for her not let it consumer her, that's all.
By me saying that there is corruption on both sides does not mean I think it makes it ok, but it does mean that there needs to be some perspective. The problems in this country don't just come from one party it comes from corruption in both.
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:24 PM   #9
 
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Ymorenita - gotcha. Yes, I agree it's not healthy to let all the issues of the country, or world, weigh on one's mind.
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Old 10-06-2005, 06:04 PM   #10
 
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First of all it does not "consume" my life. First I have 120 total posts in the last year and a half, which is pretty low for this board. Second, I live in the D.C. area where talk of politics is pretty common, not to mention it is a hot topic at the moment.

Now, my fiance, tennis and dancing do on the other hand "consume" my life. But, I guess that's not such a bad thing.

And as for bashing republicans. For me personally, I do better with them in office. The tax breaks are more beneficial, the defense industry is making my fiance rich. And, if I was a republican I probably would have had no problem when I was in the commercial real estate business listening to all the minority jokes at meetings and parties, not to mention I would be making more money than I do now.

But, I have a conscious, and I want to stand up for what I believe is right and help others who are less fortunate.

Maybe I have just been more exposed than you have to racist white republican men and women. Granted it was a brief time in my life and several years ago, but obviously it is something I can never forget.

Call me a bleeding heart liberal! But, at least I have a heart!
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First of all it does not "consume" my life. First I have 120 total posts in the last year and a half, which is pretty low for this board. Second, I live in the D.C. area where talk of politics is pretty common, not to mention it is a hot topic at the moment.
I think you gave that impressive by starting more than one thread on the same topic, plus you seem(ed) frustrated that people were not responding. If you want to reach a wider audience, you might want to repost on the Non-hair board.

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And as for bashing republicans. For me personally, I do better with them in office. The tax breaks are more beneficial, the defense industry is making my fiance rich. And, if I was a republican I probably would have had no problem when I was in the commercial real estate business listening to all the minority jokes at meetings and parties, not to mention I would be making more money than I do now.
We do better in the short term from the tax breaks, but not in the longterm. I see tax breaks as no different from borrowing from other countries - like a credit card with a high limit that you eventually have to pay back when you run up a high balance.

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But, I have a conscious, and I want to stand up for what I believe is right and help others who are less fortunate.
I am with you 100% here. I'm a firm believer in the saying:
"If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything".

There are issues that I am guaranteed to battle out or that are very dear to my heart. But I try not to let them consume me. It's easy to cross that line. I think that's what Ymorenita was getting at.

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Maybe I have just been more exposed than you have to racist white republican men and women. Granted it was a brief time in my life and several years ago, but obviously it is something I can never forget.
Doubtful, but quite possible.

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I'm sorry but I just think telling someone not to let something "consume" them is kind of rude. It's almost like saying "stop your yammering, already!"

It IS a Poliltics forum. And LaVidaCurly said she was ranting. So, heck, let her rant in peace.

We're all in this mess together and someone needs to say it because The Emperor Has No Clothes!
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Old 10-06-2005, 08:21 PM   #13
 
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Perhaps. Personally, I think pretty much anything anyone says about anything can be considered rude As long as no one is being nasty, we should consider ourselves in good company - just my opinion.

I think most of us who bother to come to the politics forum are passionate about something, and that's one of the reasons I like this forum the best.
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We're all in this mess together and someone needs to say it because The Emperor Has No Clothes!

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But, here is a question... If the republicans represent the "moral majority" then why are they so corrupt? And think that they are above the law? I'm just venting.
Actually republicans don't represent the moral majority. The American public chooses to believe whoever yells loudest.

Corruption stems from power and the republicans have all of it.
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Let me tell you something about "discussion?": you don't know anything about it!
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