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Old 10-14-2008, 03:53 AM   #21
 
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Right now I'm an undecided voter, who usually has voted Republican. I don't care for McCain/Palin ticket and I don't really care for the Obama/Biden ticket. I don't like how people just assume that because I'm undecided that it's because Obama has african heritage or because Palin's a woman. There are so many more important things to be focusing on, like our economy, that I really don't care what color or what sex you are as long as you can fix it.
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The guy in the video really creeped me out!

What an ignorant fool.
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:01 AM   #23
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Right now I'm an undecided voter, who usually has voted Republican. I don't care for McCain/Palin ticket and I don't really care for the Obama/Biden ticket. I don't like how people just assume that because I'm undecided that it's because Obama has african heritage or because Palin's a woman. There are so many more important things to be focusing on, like our economy, that I really don't care what color or what sex you are as long as you can fix it.
I have to ask b/c I am always fascinated by undecided voters. The candidates are so different in my mind. What is it that you are waiting to hear that will make you decide? Do you think it's b/c most undecided voters do not care as much about things like abortion as much as the core consituents in either party, and the candidates are always pandering to them?

Also, I don't automatically think anyone not voting for Obama is racist. But when you see things like the stuff posted here, you realize we haven't come as far as some of us hoped. There is a lot of ignorance.
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If McCain had chosen Romney, I'd be undecided, leaning Obama perhaps, but I don't know that it would be certain.

I don't think people oppose Obama just on race. He's solidly pro-choice and I know plenty of people who are not going to vote for him just because of that. As stated in the other thread, that's not really logical but it is their right. It's really not about race or ethnicity - until people like the guy in the video make it so.
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Right now I'm an undecided voter, who usually has voted Republican. I don't care for McCain/Palin ticket and I don't really care for the Obama/Biden ticket. I don't like how people just assume that because I'm undecided that it's because Obama has african heritage or because Palin's a woman. There are so many more important things to be focusing on, like our economy, that I really don't care what color or what sex you are as long as you can fix it.


At this point, with McCain and Palin clearly showing their own racism by casting aspersions on Obama's race ("he's not like us" and a bunch of other innuendos) and inciting racial hatred among their ralley crowds, I kind of have to think that anyone who votes McCain is also racist...or at least is supporting racism. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
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I don't automatically think someone who's not voting for Obama is a racist. But here's when I start thinking that.

So I'm captioning the debate. After the debate Katie Couric was interviewing a bunch of undecideds. She asked one woman who she thought did better at the debate. The woman (a moderate Republican) said, "I thought Obama did better."
Katie said, "Why?"
The woman said, "Because he had a plan and he was able to articulate it. I liked his plan for the economy better than McCain's. I think his grasp of foreign policy was very good."
Katie said, "So you've made up your mind, then?"
The woman said, "No."

That'swhen I start thinking, Okay. You like him better, think that he's got a better plan and yet you're still not voting for him?? And I wonder if it's racism.
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This is just my take.

It seems like all this racial garbage reared it's head AFTER Palin was selected for VP. I know she's McCain's "pit bull" and here whole purpose seems to just divide people and rile them up.

I don't think that McCain intended for this stuff go to where it has. I think that he has lost control of his campaign. I have read that he was kind of forced to take Palin as a VP to appease certain Republicans, which makes me wonder who is really running his campaign & even possible future presidency.

My future in-laws are standard Republicans who were going to vote for McCain. They were put off my the Palin choice, but were still going to vote for him.

After seeing the racial and yes violent "town hall" rallies, they were very put off...and now will probably not be voting for McCain. This very wrong racial stuff has put them over the edge and turned them off.
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Well I'm glad that this election has brought to the attention how a lot of people are still so backwards many people apparently thought this type of racism does not exist. The civil rights movement was only about 50 or so years ago. I think we've progressed a lot and I'mso proud that America has elected an African American(although half) candidate. Honestly I didn't think it would come this soon. This shows that those racist bigots are in the minority, thank god. It takes time to change deep rooted attitudes and lifestyles. Like RCW said in another thread..we just have to wait for those kinds to die off. If you believe in evolution, survival of the fittest and majority wins. It will take some time though(as long as we are heading the right direction).
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Right now I'm an undecided voter, who usually has voted Republican. I don't care for McCain/Palin ticket and I don't really care for the Obama/Biden ticket. I don't like how people just assume that because I'm undecided that it's because Obama has african heritage or because Palin's a woman. There are so many more important things to be focusing on, like our economy, that I really don't care what color or what sex you are as long as you can fix it.
I'm with you Amy
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At this point, with McCain and Palin clearly showing their own racism by casting aspersions on Obama's race ("he's not like us" and a bunch of other innuendos) and inciting racial hatred among their ralley crowds, I kind of have to think that anyone who votes McCain is also racist...or at least is supporting racism. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
Have you been the victim of racism or something? Why do you carry on about this? I am Hispanic and I don't carry around this racism chip on my shoulder even though I've been subjected to "racist" remarks numerous times.
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At this point, with McCain and Palin clearly showing their own racism by casting aspersions on Obama's race ("he's not like us" and a bunch of other innuendos) and inciting racial hatred among their ralley crowds, I kind of have to think that anyone who votes McCain is also racist...or at least is supporting racism. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
Have you been the victim of racism or something? Why do you carry on about this? I am Hispanic and I don't carry around this racism chip on my shoulder even though I've been subjected to "racist" remarks numerous times.
I'm not going to speak for her, but for ME-- especially after hearing McCain and Palin inciting hatred by saying Obama "isn't one of us"-- that makes me think that if you vote for him, you agree with him.
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At this point, with McCain and Palin clearly showing their own racism by casting aspersions on Obama's race ("he's not like us" and a bunch of other innuendos) and inciting racial hatred among their ralley crowds, I kind of have to think that anyone who votes McCain is also racist...or at least is supporting racism. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
Have you been the victim of racism or something? Why do you carry on about this? I am Hispanic and I don't carry around this racism chip on my shoulder even though I've been subjected to "racist" remarks numerous times.
I'm not going to speak for her, but for ME-- especially after hearing McCain and Palin inciting hatred by saying Obama "isn't one of us"-- that makes me think that if you vote for him, you agree with him.
I'm not convinced by saying "not one of us" that it's a racist comment it could mean a number of things
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...and more from the same poster & rally.

In my own state too. Ick.
That actually brought tears to my eyes. It's not just Obama they hate. They called out pro-choice, Canadians, Latinos pretty much everyone who isn't like them.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:18 AM   #34
 
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They are using the same tactics the Busn admin used to get us to invade Iraq. Seeds of fear. Hinting around that Iraq had something to do with 9/11.

They planted seeds of fear knowing full well that it would be nourished by hate. They need that "dumb a$$ vote". People who would have never made it to the polls. That's the McCain/Palin voter drive.

I firmly believe that the people who think Obama is a terrorist are racist, or in serious racist denial. They CLING to a more "valid" excuse to hate him then being black. Hating a "terrorist" looks better.
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Have you been the victim of racism or something? Why do you carry on about this? I am Hispanic and I don't carry around this racism chip on my shoulder even though I've been subjected to "racist" remarks numerous times.
I'm not going to speak for her, but for ME-- especially after hearing McCain and Palin inciting hatred by saying Obama "isn't one of us"-- that makes me think that if you vote for him, you agree with him.
I'm not convinced by saying "not one of us" that it's a racist comment it could mean a number of things
I'm a white girl who grew up in Appalachia. Believe me, when a white person tells a bunch of white people that someone is "not like them" it's all about race. Whether one wants to dig on Obama for being black or "Arab" or "Muslim" that's what getting out.

It's totally different from someone saying "His tax plan is not like ours."
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...and more from the same poster & rally.

In my own state too. Ick.

ugh dumba$ses dumba$ses dumba$ses! Wow McCain/Palin sure have the Bigot vote .
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I'm a white girl who grew up in Appalachia. Believe me, when a white person tells a bunch of white people that someone is "not like them" it's all about race.
that made me giggle a little bit.
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I'm a white girl who grew up in Appalachia. Believe me, when a white person tells a bunch of white people that someone is "not like them" it's all about race. Whether one wants to dig on Obama for being black or "Arab" or "Muslim" that's what getting out.

It's totally different from someone saying "His tax plan is not like ours."

LOL I didn't know it was even in question that only racists would call him a terrorist.
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This is just my take.

It seems like all this racial garbage reared it's head AFTER Palin was selected for VP. I know she's McCain's "pit bull" and here whole purpose seems to just divide people and rile them up.

I don't think that McCain intended for this stuff go to where it has. I think that he has lost control of his campaign.
I agree with you on that. Palin made a statement that one of the things she wanted to was make it possible for people to go online and find the US budget, to promote transparency. Obama already did this though, when he was in the Senate. Palin didn't even run that idea by anyone from the McCain staff or she would have known not to say it. And all the scandals about her, the Troopergate crap, charging victims for rape kits, her possibly having an affair, her daughter being pregnant...it makes me think that the McCain campaign did a very bad job researching her and selecting her. Maybe they pulled her name out of a hat? It's kind of ridiculous and if McCain can't run his own campaign how is he going to run the country?
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This is just my take.

It seems like all this racial garbage reared it's head AFTER Palin was selected for VP. I know she's McCain's "pit bull" and here whole purpose seems to just divide people and rile them up.

I don't think that McCain intended for this stuff go to where it has. I think that he has lost control of his campaign.
I agree with you on that. Palin made a statement that one of the things she wanted to was make it possible for people to go online and find the US budget, to promote transparency. Obama already did this though, when he was in the Senate. Palin didn't even run that idea by anyone from the McCain staff or she would have known not to say it. And all the scandals about her, the Troopergate crap, charging victims for rape kits, her possibly having an affair, her daughter being pregnant...it makes me think that the McCain campaign did a very bad job researching her and selecting her. Maybe they pulled her name out of a hat? It's kind of ridiculous and if McCain can't run his own campaign how is he going to run the country?
I was told by a very reliable source that Tim Pawlenty, Gov. of Minnesota, was promised the VP position, and two days later, they announced Palin.
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