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10-15-2008, 04:55 PM
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#81
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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When I was a kid, we use to sing a song in class.
Five little monkeys sitting in a tree
teasing Mr Alligator can't catch me, can't catch me
Along can Mr Alligator, quiet as can be
SNAP
Four little. etc..
Fast foward to college, and taking a class on African American protrayal in the media. (this is not from my class, but the idea)
The picaninny was the dominant racial caricature of Black children for most of this country's history. They were "child c**ns," miniature versions of Stepin Fetchit (see the section on the c**n caricature). Picaninnies had bulging eyes, unkempt hair, red lips, and wide mouths into which they stuffed huge slices of watermelon. They were themselves tasty morsels for alligators. They were routinely shown on postcards, posters, and other ephemera being chased or eaten. Picaninnies were portrayed as nameless, shiftless natural buffoons running from alligators and toward fried chicken.
My mind went back to my favorite song, and my heart just broke.  I like the tune of the song, so I changed monkey to chipmunk when I sing it to Isaiah.
So yeah, that man knew EXACTLY what he was doing.
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10-15-2008, 05:08 PM
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#82
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Never heard that song. I knew a similar song 5 little monkeys jumping on the bed Is that the same tune? That song sounds innocent enough to me, least I really hope it is. But I've been wrong before.
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10-15-2008, 05:12 PM
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#83
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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I can't see your video, but the one we sang was:
5 little monkeys, jumping on a bed
1 fell off and bumped his head
Momma called the Doctor and the Doctor said
No more monkeys jumping on the bed
Seems innocent to me.
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10-15-2008, 05:19 PM
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#84
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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It's not the same tune. But, for me, I just feel better changing the words.
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10-15-2008, 06:49 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Me too. And made me sick to my stomach too. Even more so in the youtube video.
"Good Americans" huh? Yeah, good Americans are racists, that's right.  I'm always amazed by that type - "good, Christian people" who think racism and hatred are a-okay.
What a farking moron.
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10-15-2008, 06:51 PM
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#86
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Me either. I've never heard anything but "tiger" for this song..
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10-15-2008, 06:58 PM
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#87
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Really? I'm also a white girl who grew up (and lives) in Appalachia and I've always felt that people in my area (southeast KY) are and were more divided by class than race. This is a phrase I've heard before meaning that someone was rich and didn't know what it was like to be a blue-collar worker and so on. I've actually heard a lot of these sort of comments in the McConnell vs. Lunsford race for Senate.
Oh, I've also heard this being used toward people from other areas - of the country, not the world.
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10-15-2008, 09:31 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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I'm sure it was used for class in some areas. Where I grew up, "those people" or "they're not like us you know", usually said in a certain tone, meant blacks. Wealthier people were referred to as "those snobs", often with a sort of a turning up the nose with ones thumb gesture to go along with it.
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10-16-2008, 03:02 PM
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#89
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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I hate to keep bringing it up, but Idiocracy! LOL
Seriously, look at the demographic that is doing the most breeding...
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10-16-2008, 03:10 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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I never heard the "tiger" one until my son was a child. The first two are what I heard growing up in a small town in the North that was white as snow.
Also the "game" where everyone would pile on top of someone, when I was a child it was a "n*gger pile", then they changed it to "monkey pile". Coincidence? I think not.
I would hope that people reading this who think that it is not offensive to talk like that learn that it is. Kids repeat things they hear their parents say, out of ignorance. But for adults to know full well that what they are saying is offensive and say it anyway, that is hatred.
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10-16-2008, 03:17 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Both of you miss the point. Bush was described as being those things by his actions and failure to lead our country. Obama being referred to as a monkey is for his skin color, something he cannot control, and deeply rooted in a racist history, ie: porch monkey. Do your research honey...
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10-16-2008, 03:27 PM
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#92
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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In the words of Chris Rock in his Kill the Messenger Special..."Sometimes the people with the most stuff, have to say the least...If you want to say the most, get rid of some of your stuff"
In other words, when pointing out the "inferior traits" in the white race contribute to perpetuating their slave mentality and degenerates their self-esteem, maybe we can talk about something.
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10-17-2008, 01:27 PM
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#93
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Join Date: May 2004
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CNN is now showing this rally as "breaking news"
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10-17-2008, 02:11 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
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Whoa.. I've never heard of any of this... we used "tiger" too... And we used to say "dog pile" not monkey or anything else... Not to mention that I didn't even know monkey was a racial slur until I was MUCH older and was watching Clerks II... I used to call my best friend "Monkey" as a term of endearment... 
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10-17-2008, 05:15 PM
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#95
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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Last edited by lazy loops; 10-17-2008 at 05:45 PM.
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10-17-2008, 08:20 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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oh yeah, they had no clue either. I love how they have a McCain monkey too. Guess that makes it ok
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10-17-2008, 10:04 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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That McCain monkey came after they got called out. The site was shut down/sales for the Obama monkey stopped for a while. Then the site was back up with the McCain monkey added, so yeah, I guess that makes it OK now.
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10-18-2008, 12:00 AM
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#98
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Ahhh, Worldnetdaily. I sometimes forget how out there they are...
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10-18-2008, 07:30 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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Racism didn't go anywhere.
Except into the attic/undercover most of the time and out on display for special occassions just like this.
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10-18-2008, 08:26 PM
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#100
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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 Is that a media that can't be trusted? 
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