Hasselbeck+Obama+Ayers

Just thought I would add - Bill O'Reilly on The View this Wednesday - I can only imagine how Elisabeth will act - I cannot wait to watch the a** kissing.
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Further down, you can familiarize yourself with some of her policies.
Originally Posted by Poodlehead


Heh...too funny. She was a wee bit aggressive with that shoulder grabbing.

Are there a lot of tall people in Congress, or is Bush just really short?!?
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Further down, you can familiarize yourself with some of her policies.
Originally Posted by Poodlehead


Heh...too funny. She was a wee bit aggressive with that shoulder grabbing.

Are there a lot of tall people in Congress, or is Bush just really short?!?
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Wikipedia lists him as 5'11.
Minneapolis, MN
Wikipedia lists him as 5'11.
Originally Posted by Poodlehead

He's lying.

UGH!!! This perception disrespects Colin Powell and all other black people who have weighed all factors when deciding on thier candidate of choice!

I NEVER hear any black people railing "insert white important figure" is only endorsing "insert white candidate" because he's white. Never.enters. their.mind.

Get this and listen well - black people are just as capable of making decisions that have nothing to do with race. Really, we do.
Originally Posted by wavezncurlz
Okay there really is no reason to be condescending. At no point did I ever say black people were voting for him just because he's black. I just said that this is the perception out there. Like many things in life how we are perceived is extremely important whether anyone likes it or not. And that effects how people interpret the endorsement. Can you name any candidate getting 95% of a demographic?
Originally Posted by CottonCandyCurls
Um, blacks have overwhelmingly voted for the Democratic party. Until this year, the candidate has always been white. Barack is the Democratic candidate this year and he happens to be bi-racial. I'm sorry - Your statement makes no sense.
Originally Posted by wavezncurlz
As I said before it's problematic that blacks overwhelmingly vote Democratic but that is another topic. Barack was getting 95% during the primaries. In fact this is where the perception began that people were voting for him because he's black. I know he's biracial, so is Halle Berry, Tracee Ellis Ross, heck even Tiger Woods is caublinasian regardless they are seen as black. Many bi-racial people go so far to identify themselves as such. Whether that is right or wrong is another issue. It's still an electoral oddity.
In regard to the surrogates and dirty campaigning one of our state senators is up for reelection (Maine, Susan Collins R) and she recently asked the McCain campaign to suspend the robocalls to Maine voters about Obama and Ayers. She said that Mainers are smarter than that and there is no place for campaigning like that.

Now Maine is 1 of 2 states that awards their electoral votes proportionately (2 go to whomever wins the state, 1 each to whomever wins each of our two districts). For the republican senator to ask the republican nominee publicly to change their campaign tactics is not a very good sign for those of her supporters as far as them sticking by McCain.

I'm not much of a Collins fan but I do respect this choice of hers and she doesn't run too many attack ads in her race either.

In a side note a lovely sign just down the road from my grandmothers is garnering some attention. It's 15ft tall and is supposed to incite debate according to the owner. Personally I think it's obvious where he stands though he doesn't seem to think it is. (I find it heinous.)
Here's the link and you can follow that to video to see the sign. http://www.wgme13.com/News/story_det...shtml?readmore

Last edited by KookyCurl; 10-21-2008 at 10:38 AM.
To get stats like "95% of black people vote Democratic", how do you know who votes for whom? I live in a racially integrated neighborhood and precint. How will the AP or McCain know for whom I voted to be able to say that 95% of black people voted for Obama?
To get stats like "95% of black people vote Democratic", how do you know who votes for whom? I live in a racially integrated neighborhood and precint. How will the AP or McCain know for whom I voted to be able to say that 95% of black people voted for Obama?
Originally Posted by Myradella3
I don't think you can, because you don't know the total of all people because you can't track who didn't vote.

What you can do, however, is get data on who DID vote, who they voted for, and their race (and their gender, and their age, and their name and address...) At least in Texas you can. Its on the internet.

To Cotton Candy...

Why would blacks overwhelmingly voting democratic be a problem? Maybe they see that as the party that best handles and recognizes their own needs? 4% of blacks are republicans and I'm sure they see their party as suiting their own needs. Perception is only reality to he who wants to perceive just that. In other words, IMO, the whole "blacks vote for Obama because he's black" thing is propaganda to undermine the intelligence of blacks... like we've got scratch and sniff ballots or something... (scratch here for vanilla and here for chocolate ).

Maybe you don't believe this... but just like perception, if you adamantly post about something, we can't help but believe that you're under this assumption as well.
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Last edited by A_la_Nap-tural; 10-21-2008 at 10:57 AM. Reason: To address someone.
To get stats like "95% of black people vote Democratic", how do you know who votes for whom? I live in a racially integrated neighborhood and precint. How will the AP or McCain know for whom I voted to be able to say that 95% of black people voted for Obama?
Originally Posted by Myradella3
Census Bureau, State Registration Records, Various Polls (campaign, party, opinion research, exit).
And of course these number are for people actually registered to vote. It was pretty obvious where most of the black vote was swinging during the primaries.
To Cotton Candy...

Why would blacks overwhelmingly voting democratic be a problem? Maybe they see that as the party that best handles and recognizes their own needs? 4% of blacks are republicans and I'm sure they see their party as suiting their own needs. Perception is only reality to he who wants to perceive just that. In other words, IMO, the whole "blacks vote for Obama because he's black" thing is propaganda to undermine the intelligence of blacks... like we've got scratch and sniff ballots or something... (scratch here for vanilla and here for chocolate ).

Maybe you don't believe this... but just like perception, if you adamantly post about something, we can't help but believe that you're under this assumption as well.
Originally Posted by A_la_Nap-tural
I'm sure black people see the party as handling their needs. I don't think it actually does. I actually don't think most black people voted for Obama solely because he's black. And if they did I honestly wouldn't care. But I'm not the everyvoter. There should be more efforts from other parties to address the black community. They really are clueless at to what the black community finds important. On the other hand I think the Democratic Party knows they have African Americans in the bag and take them for granted. I can't remember that funny Al Sharpton quote from when he was running in 200. But I hope you know what I mean.
I can't remember that funny Al Sharpton quote from when he was running in 200. But I hope you know what I mean.
Originally Posted by CottonCandyCurls
Black people don't listen to Al Sharpton! That's funny... I don't think anyone does. I don't know one person who takes that man seriously. I would NEVER vote for Al, or Jesse, or Alan Keys... They are stocked up on CRAZY!
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To get stats like "95% of black people vote Democratic", how do you know who votes for whom? I live in a racially integrated neighborhood and precint. How will the AP or McCain know for whom I voted to be able to say that 95% of black people voted for Obama?
Originally Posted by Myradella3
Census Bureau, State Registration Records, Various Polls (campaign, party, opinion research, exit).
And of course these number are for people actually registered to vote. It was pretty obvious where most of the black vote was swinging during the primaries.
Originally Posted by CottonCandyCurls
So numbers like 95% are really just guesses unless there is a precint where every person is black or white?
I can't remember that funny Al Sharpton quote from when he was running in 200. But I hope you know what I mean.
Originally Posted by CottonCandyCurls
Black people don't listen to Al Sharpton! That's funny... I don't think anyone does. I don't know one person who takes that man seriously. I would NEVER vote for Al, or Jesse, or Alan Keys... They are stocked up on CRAZY!
Originally Posted by A_la_Nap-tural
I didn't say black people necessarily listen to him. He's his own brand of crazy but that doesn't mean everything he says is completely useless. I just couldn't remember what he said I'll find the quote.
To get stats like "95% of black people vote Democratic", how do you know who votes for whom? I live in a racially integrated neighborhood and precint. How will the AP or McCain know for whom I voted to be able to say that 95% of black people voted for Obama?
Originally Posted by Myradella3
Census Bureau, State Registration Records, Various Polls (campaign, party, opinion research, exit).
And of course these number are for people actually registered to vote. It was pretty obvious where most of the black vote was swinging during the primaries.
Originally Posted by CottonCandyCurls
So numbers like 95% are really just guesses unless there is a precint where every person is black or white?
Originally Posted by Myradella3
No. Gore in 2000 got 9 out of 10 black votes. Would that require everyone to be black or white. Um no. These things are dissected with good reason. You can go back to the numbers in the primaries
O'Reilly is on The View and I think Elisabeth is about to have an orgasm. It's quite frightening to watch.
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