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Old 10-21-2008, 10:38 PM   #1
 
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Johnny really shot himself in the foot with his VP choice. Here's an excerpt from a story by Mark Murray, NBC News deputy political director, based on the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll:

Fifty-five percent of respondents say she’s not qualified to serve as president if the need arises, up five points from the previous poll. In addition, for the first time, more voters have a negative opinion of her than a positive one. In the survey, 47 percent view her negatively, versus 38 percent who see her in a positive light.
That’s a striking shift since McCain chose Palin as his running mate in early September, when she held a 47 to 27 percent positive rating.
Now, Palin’s qualifications to be president rank as voters’ top concern about McCain’s candidacy - ahead of continuing President Bush’s policies, enacting economic policies that only benefit the rich and keeping too high of a troop presence in Iraq.
By comparison, voters’ top concerns about Obama include, in order:
• Being too inexperienced.
• Being too liberal.
• Raising taxes on some Americans.
• Being too influenced by people like his former pastor Jeremiah Wright and the ‘60s radical Bill Ayers.
Hart argues that voters have turned against Palin. The negative opinions of her have “reflected badly on McCain and essentially hurt the ticket dramatically.”
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Johnny really shot himself in the foot with his VP choice. Here's an excerpt from a story by Mark Murray, NBC News deputy political director, based on the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll:

Fifty-five percent of respondents say she’s not qualified to serve as president if the need arises, up five points from the previous poll. In addition, for the first time, more voters have a negative opinion of her than a positive one. In the survey, 47 percent view her negatively, versus 38 percent who see her in a positive light.
That’s a striking shift since McCain chose Palin as his running mate in early September, when she held a 47 to 27 percent positive rating.
Now, Palin’s qualifications to be president rank as voters’ top concern about McCain’s candidacy - ahead of continuing President Bush’s policies, enacting economic policies that only benefit the rich and keeping too high of a troop presence in Iraq.
By comparison, voters’ top concerns about Obama include, in order:
• Being too inexperienced.
• Being too liberal.
• Raising taxes on some Americans.
• Being too influenced by people like his former pastor Jeremiah Wright and the ‘60s radical Bill Ayers.
Hart argues that voters have turned against Palin. The negative opinions of her have “reflected badly on McCain and essentially hurt the ticket dramatically.”
Where is the sampling breakdown?
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Here's the whole story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27297013/
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I think McCain's campaign derailed after picking Palin. Her whole purpose seems to be to rile people up and divide people. I think it's backfiring, because all the racists are coming out of the closet and making the McCain ticket look bad.

I do not think that McCain is racist or a bad person. If he had picked a different VP I wonder if his campaign would be going in this direction.
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Well, I have to say I'm glad to see McCain losing ground. Four more years of McBush would be suicide for us.

But I hate that his campaign has turned so ugly. Palin has stirred up the "kook" element, and that worries me.
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Well, I have to say I'm glad to see McCain losing ground. Four more years of McBush would be suicide for us.

But I hate that his campaign has turned so ugly. Palin has stirred up the "kook" element, and that worries me.


I know the VP nominee is supposed to be the "attack dog", but Palin seems to have taken that role to heart. She seems to enjoy being really vicious and evil, stirring up the pot of hatred. She kinda makes Cheney look like a p*ssycat. This is a representative of a christian person?!?!? Count me out please. Jesus would be ashamed.
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i hate msnbc and fox. are they even credible news sources anymore?

does anyone consider them credible?

i feel like its like star magazine and the enquirer.
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Well, I have to say I'm glad to see McCain losing ground. Four more years of McBush would be suicide for us.

But I hate that his campaign has turned so ugly. Palin has stirred up the "kook" element, and that worries me.


I know the VP nominee is supposed to be the "attack dog", but Palin seems to have taken that role to heart. She seems to enjoy being really vicious and evil, stirring up the pot of hatred. She kinda makes Cheney look like a p*ssycat. This is a representative of a christian person?!?!? Count me out please. Jesus would be ashamed.
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i hate msnbc and fox. are they even credible news sources anymore?

does anyone consider them credible?

i feel like its like star magazine and the enquirer.
I found the story on msnbc.msn.com, but it's an NBC News story. Not the same thing.
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Well, I have to say I'm glad to see McCain losing ground. Four more years of McBush would be suicide for us.

But I hate that his campaign has turned so ugly. Palin has stirred up the "kook" element, and that worries me.


I know the VP nominee is supposed to be the "attack dog", but Palin seems to have taken that role to heart. She seems to enjoy being really vicious and evil, stirring up the pot of hatred. She kinda makes Cheney look like a p*ssycat. This is a representative of a christian person?!?!? Count me out please. Jesus would be ashamed.
rcw, are you claiming to know jesus
just going by the jesus doctrine.

I don't think there was a real jesus...more of a metaphore.
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Johnny really shot himself in the foot with his VP choice. Here's an excerpt from a story by Mark Murray, NBC News deputy political director, based on the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll:

Fifty-five percent of respondents say she’s not qualified to serve as president if the need arises, up five points from the previous poll. In addition, for the first time, more voters have a negative opinion of her than a positive one. In the survey, 47 percent view her negatively, versus 38 percent who see her in a positive light.
That’s a striking shift since McCain chose Palin as his running mate in early September, when she held a 47 to 27 percent positive rating.
Now, Palin’s qualifications to be president rank as voters’ top concern about McCain’s candidacy - ahead of continuing President Bush’s policies, enacting economic policies that only benefit the rich and keeping too high of a troop presence in Iraq.
By comparison, voters’ top concerns about Obama include, in order:
• Being too inexperienced.
• Being too liberal.
• Raising taxes on some Americans.
• Being too influenced by people like his former pastor Jeremiah Wright and the ‘60s radical Bill Ayers.
Hart argues that voters have turned against Palin. The negative opinions of her have “reflected badly on McCain and essentially hurt the ticket dramatically.”

I knew I wasn't going to vote for McCain when he tried to insult my intelligence by pushing Palin on me (and everyone else). My vote completely went out the window at that point.
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I know the VP nominee is supposed to be the "attack dog", but Palin seems to have taken that role to heart. She seems to enjoy being really vicious and evil, stirring up the pot of hatred. She kinda makes Cheney look like a p*ssycat. This is a representative of a christian person?!?!? Count me out please. Jesus would be ashamed.
rcw, are you claiming to know jesus
just going by the jesus doctrine.

I don't think there was a real jesus...more of a metaphore.
ahuh sure. you converted and didn't tell anyone.
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Johnny really shot himself in the foot with his VP choice. Here's an excerpt from a story by Mark Murray, NBC News deputy political director, based on the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll:

Fifty-five percent of respondents say she’s not qualified to serve as president if the need arises, up five points from the previous poll. In addition, for the first time, more voters have a negative opinion of her than a positive one. In the survey, 47 percent view her negatively, versus 38 percent who see her in a positive light.
That’s a striking shift since McCain chose Palin as his running mate in early September, when she held a 47 to 27 percent positive rating.
Now, Palin’s qualifications to be president rank as voters’ top concern about McCain’s candidacy - ahead of continuing President Bush’s policies, enacting economic policies that only benefit the rich and keeping too high of a troop presence in Iraq.
By comparison, voters’ top concerns about Obama include, in order:
• Being too inexperienced.
• Being too liberal.
• Raising taxes on some Americans.
• Being too influenced by people like his former pastor Jeremiah Wright and the ‘60s radical Bill Ayers.
Hart argues that voters have turned against Palin. The negative opinions of her have “reflected badly on McCain and essentially hurt the ticket dramatically.”

I knew I wasn't going to vote for McCain when he tried to insult my intelligence by pushing Palin on me (and everyone else). My vote completely went out the window at that point.
A few Republicans I know decided not to vote McCain because Palin is on the ticket. I think picking Palin was a fatal blow to McCain's campaign.

I still don't understand why he picked Palin over Kay Bailey Hutchinson. That woman is tough and smart. She could have more than held her own in any debate or interview.
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Johnny really shot himself in the foot with his VP choice. Here's an excerpt from a story by Mark Murray, NBC News deputy political director, based on the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll:

Fifty-five percent of respondents say she’s not qualified to serve as president if the need arises, up five points from the previous poll. In addition, for the first time, more voters have a negative opinion of her than a positive one. In the survey, 47 percent view her negatively, versus 38 percent who see her in a positive light.
That’s a striking shift since McCain chose Palin as his running mate in early September, when she held a 47 to 27 percent positive rating.
Now, Palin’s qualifications to be president rank as voters’ top concern about McCain’s candidacy - ahead of continuing President Bush’s policies, enacting economic policies that only benefit the rich and keeping too high of a troop presence in Iraq.
By comparison, voters’ top concerns about Obama include, in order:
• Being too inexperienced.
• Being too liberal.
• Raising taxes on some Americans.
• Being too influenced by people like his former pastor Jeremiah Wright and the ‘60s radical Bill Ayers.
Hart argues that voters have turned against Palin. The negative opinions of her have “reflected badly on McCain and essentially hurt the ticket dramatically.”

I knew I wasn't going to vote for McCain when he tried to insult my intelligence by pushing Palin on me (and everyone else). My vote completely went out the window at that point.
A few Republicans I know decided not to vote McCain because Palin is on the ticket. I think picking Palin was a fatal blow to McCain's campaign.

I still don't understand why he picked Palin over Kay Bailey Hutchinson. That woman is tough and smart. She could have more than held her own in any debate or interview.

I've heard that same question about Hutchinson. I think he needed a woman (to get the women's vote) who was simple-minded enough to simply go along with whatever he dictates.

Hillary Clinton, although out of control in the primaries, clearly knew her stuff. But she was also criticized and I think a large part of it had to do with the fact that she was so intelligent, strong-willed, and articulate...independent-minded.

(I also think a large part of it had to do with how she manipulated and divided the Demo party during the primaries.)

Perhaps if McCain picked a conservative on Clinton's level, people would've recoiled at her intelligence? I really have no idea, but McCain certainly lost this veteran's vote after that crazy VP pick of his.

I just watched an interview with the both of them (meaning McCain and Palin just sitting there being a parrot). And he looked SO OLD next to her...seriously. I kept thinking, what if something happens to him?? He's the oldest presidential candidate in US history (he's 72). We could be stuck with Palin in McCain's place. I find the prospect downright frightening. I really do. I pray this never happens, because if we thought we had problems with Bush, Palin will make Bush's eight years seem like years spent in a Utopia.
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rcw, are you claiming to know jesus
just going by the jesus doctrine.

I don't think there was a real jesus...more of a metaphore.
ahuh sure. you converted and didn't tell anyone.

SNORT! Believe me, if I ever find jesus and get saved, this board will be the first to know. I'd be making posts like "I gave my heart to jesus, and now he never calls".
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just going by the jesus doctrine.

I don't think there was a real jesus...more of a metaphore.
ahuh sure. you converted and didn't tell anyone.

SNORT! Believe me, if I ever find jesus and get saved, this board will be the first to know. I'd be making posts like "I gave my heart to jesus, and now he never calls".
sorry. couldn't help it.
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Terrence Cole, an Alaska political historian, said Palin had in some cases shown "a disrespect for experience."

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...,7306906.story

Palin appointed friends and donors to key posts in Alaska, records show

100-plus jobs went to campaign donors or their relatives, sometimes without apparent regard to qualifications. Several donors got state-subsidized loans for business ventures of dubious public value. (more)
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