CottonCandyCurls

Both campaigns reached out to this woman and offered sympathy. So stop making this a judgment issue about McCain. The loose cannon crap is ridiculous.

chlicurl

Funny how this thread has morphed into "McCain supporters out of control." This was a pathetic attempt to paint Obama supporters as thugs and grab some lime light while at it. If this story had been more plausible she would have hit the campaign trail with them as "Ashley the Victim of DomesticTerrorism by Obama associate" standing next to Joe the Plumber. November 5 cannot come fast enough for me.

MissCurlyCue

I'd actually agree with the assertion that he is a loose cannon. I'm not even speaking about any parties contacting this allleged woman. I'm speaking of McCain's erratic behavior and choices as of late and his lack of sound judgment. He seems especially bizarre and unlike the man I used to admire (YEARS ago).

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gboardwrites

Yikes! I should have read this before I started my thread: Obama and Abortion. Then, I would have known that opinions don't matter in this election! Everyone seems very, very, angry.

Anyhow, EVERYONE: for Obama or for McCain:
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MichelleBFT

An Obama spokesperson made a statement, versus McCain and Palin both contacted this woman personally. Was he necessarily wrong to do so before it became apparent that this woman wasn't particularly reliable? Meh, maybe not. But you can't equate a spokesperson's statement with two personal phone calls.

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Naya

LOLOL, you are hilarious!

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MichelleBFT

You should always, always do some reading in a forum you're new to before you post. Always. You wouldn't walk into a room full of people you don't know and start shouting, would you? Same principle.

And you're right. We are angry. We're in financial crisis, we're at war on two major fronts, and we're at a crux in history regarding civil and reproductive rights. This election means a lot. It's important, not only to Americans but to citizens of the world. We need a leader who is going to consider his options carefully before making decisions. We need a leader who is concerned about the well being of all citizens, not just the ones he deems appropriately patriotic. We need a leader who will repair our relations with foreign nations. And we need a leader who will keep his figurative nose out of our very literal uteri.

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"And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
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CottonCandyCurls

Did I equate. Re-read my statement. And even if the story turns out to be true which I find her tale to be suspicious. I don't think one whacko supporter is representative of Obama and his campaign. I'm amazed at how people on both sides are ready to pounce on anything in order to trash the other campaign. By the way there are many commentators and pundits on the right who are voting McCain but find this story sketchy. I still wouldn't hold it against McCain and Palin for reaching out. If the situation was reverse I would find most of y'alls comments equally silly.

MissCurlyCue

Agreed.

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Michelle, you said:

"We need a leader who is concerned about the well being of all citizens, not just the ones he deems appropriately patriotic. We need a leader who will repair our relations with foreign nations. And we need a leader who will keep his figurative nose out of our very literal uteri."

And I say: "WELL SAID!!!" and completely "AGREE"

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YolyC

I won't hold it against them for reaching out to her when they thought it was true. Now if they bring her up again knowing that her story is shaky at best, that would be really dumb on their part. Just as if Obama's folks hadn't released a statement if would have been a mad move on their part.

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Oregano (formerly babywavy)

Maybe this had nothing to do with politics. Maybe she was a Yankees fan and it was all sports related.

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realistic

It seems like she's an unhappy person and this is her outlet. JMO.

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rouquinne

in the election cycle just ended up here in Canada, supporters of the Liberal party were targetted by vandals. fortunately, thanks to our gun laws, the homes weren't shot up... but people's brake lines on their cars were cut.

it works both ways.

http://www.thestar.com/article/516047

and if you think republicans shouting "kill him" in reference to Senator Obama at Gov. Palin's rallies isn't "out of control", you're sick. flat out - sick!

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Latest update:

Police: McCain volunteer changes ATM attack story

Posted: Today at 12:24 p.m.
Updated: 13 minutes agoPITTSBURGH —A McCain campaign volunteer who reported that a tall black man robbed her and then cut a "B" onto her cheek after seeing a McCain bumper sticker on her car has been given a polygraph test because of "inconsistencies" in her story, police said.
Among other things, police said photos and bank card information from an automated teller machine where the college student claimed she was robbed do not show her using the machine at the time, police said.
Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard wouldn't release the polygraph results, but said, "we're still looking at some inconsistencies" in the woman's story.
Police said the student, Ashley Todd, of College Station, Texas, who is white, told them she was attacked by a 6-foot-4 black man Wednesday night.
Richard said police have not ruled out that the woman was attacked as she claimed, and said inconsistencies deal primarily with how she described the attack.
"We're just trying to judge the validity of some of the information we received from her," Richard said. "We understand when you are under duress that sometimes you can't recollect things. We're just looking at all the angles."
Among the differences in her accounts are whether she lost consciousness, whether she remembers handing over money and how the man assaulted her, police said.
The report of the attack Thursday prompted the Republican presidential candidate and his running mate, Sarah Palin, to call Todd expressing their concern. Barack Obama's campaign also issued a statement wishing Todd well and hoping the attacker would be swiftly brought to justice.
The Associated Press could not immediately locate Todd or her family.
Ethan Eilon, executive director of the College Republican National Committee, told reporters that Todd worked in New York for several months before moving to Pennsylvania two weeks ago to continue working for the group.
Eilon declined to comment on the investigation Friday or to help The Associated Press contact Todd. In a follow-up e-mail, Eilon said, "We think this girl has endured enough and that this is going to be something for her and her family to work through."
Richard, the police spokeswoman, said police have pictures of the victim and her injuries, but are not releasing them. She said they are "more or less" consistent with a picture that has surfaced on the Internet that show a woman with a black eye and a red backward "B" that looks like a welt or scrape on her right cheek.
"It's not like her cheek was carved out," Richard said. "It's more like a scrape or a scratch."
In her initial account, Richard said, Todd attempted to use the ATM when the man approached her from behind, put a knife with a 4- to 5-inch blade to her throat and demanded money. She told police she handed the assailant $60 and walked away.
Todd told investigators that she suspected the man then noticed a John McCain sticker on her car, became angry and punched her in the back of the head, knocking her to the ground and telling her "you are going to be a Barack supporter," police said in a statement.
She said he continued to punch and kick her while threatening "to teach her a lesson for being a McCain supporter," police said. She said he then sat on her chest, pinned her hands down with his knees and scratched a backward letter "B" into her face using what she believed to be a dull knife.
The woman told police she didn't seek medical attention, but instead went to a friend's apartment nearby and called police about 45 minutes later.
Police have reinterviewed Todd at least once since her initial statement, Richard said.
In the subsequent discussions with investigators, according to the police statement, Todd said she was accosted as she approached the bank and fled her attacker, fell to the ground and the assailant began beating and fondling her.
Police Cmdr. Larry Ross, who is in charge of the police precinct where the attack was first reported, said Todd's story has continued to change.
"I guess she elaborated more when she went down to the bureau headquarters. She added other things to it that we didn't have at first, that she didn't tell the initial officer," Ross said.

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CurlyGina2

LIAR.

Boomygrrl

You're going to get crazy supporters from both sides. There are extreme righties and extreme lefties. So, even if this is true, what does it prove?
From what I heard, Obama responded well, hoping she has a good recovery and praying for her.
I don't blame candidates for what supporters do, but since they want to lead, they need to be referred to in how they handle these situations. Obama handles them well. McCain/Palin seem to encourage suspicion of Obama being tied to terrorists and that he's "not one of us."

The only thing Obama has done that's questionable is to refer to McCain as erratic and as a loose cannon. Many of us agree with that...but that's more about behavior than about someone's core personhood. So, although, it evokes images of McCain being old and senile and I agree that's not nice...McCain seems to be functioning okay...it is still a far cry from how McCain/Palin have been personifying Obama.

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Oregano (formerly babywavy)

I followed a couple of links about the story and was brought to a place that says she came forward and claimed the story was a hoax. I'm trying to find more information about it.

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gemini

That she blamed it on a big black man absolutely pisses me off. And yeah, why would anyone mug and then turn back around upon seeing a McCain bumper sticker to neatly scratch a backwards B into her cheek?

I'm glad the truth came out quickly.

chlicurl

Here is a link. B1atch admits she made it up.

http://kdka.com/

Now, I want all those hateful things I read on the internet about Obama supporters after this story broke taken back.