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It was bound to happen.

And, still, Palin was out on the stump again today, stirring up hatred, using her racist "code" words, and the crowd was in it's usual hate frenzy shouting hate, which she didn't try to calm down. I think she gets a special thrill out of stirring up hatred.
Are you serious? Is that even remotely fair to say? These were two white supremacists who would have acted like this regardless of who Obama was running against. This is not his first assassination plot either. There are a lot of crazy people out there.
Yes, it is extremely fair to say. When you have someone who is as white as the snow she lives in, gets up in front of a crowd who is just as white, shouting things like "He's not like us", "He pals around with terrorists" and then does NOTHING when the crowd starts shouting "Kill Him"...then he!! yes, its fair. What's worse about this situation is that there was a plot to kill 102 MORE BLACK people. 102 more, and there is NO mention of how wrong that is?

And like BB said, the McCain & Palin were all about calling and "comforting" the "poor white woman attacked by the big scary black man"....but have NOTHING to say when it is the other way around and on a MUCH larger scale. Without speaking about it, it is almost like they condone it.(Kinda like when Bush "condoned" the actions of those attacking the Dixie Chicks several years ago)
Yep, because when white people get together, that's all we do is incite hatred towards black people.

I'm appalled by the plans to assassinate Obama it makes me sick and very sad that in this day and age, people are still that stupid. But I do think with or without McCain & Palin, these crazies would have tried something anyways. White supremacists don't need anyone to get them riled up, they already have their agenda.
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Are you serious? Is that even remotely fair to say? These were two white supremacists who would have acted like this regardless of who Obama was running against. This is not his first assassination plot either. There are a lot of crazy people out there.
Yes, it is extremely fair to say. When you have someone who is as white as the snow she lives in, gets up in front of a crowd who is just as white, shouting things like "He's not like us", "He pals around with terrorists" and then does NOTHING when the crowd starts shouting "Kill Him"...then he!! yes, its fair. What's worse about this situation is that there was a plot to kill 102 MORE BLACK people. 102 more, and there is NO mention of how wrong that is?

And like BB said, the McCain & Palin were all about calling and "comforting" the "poor white woman attacked by the big scary black man"....but have NOTHING to say when it is the other way around and on a MUCH larger scale. Without speaking about it, it is almost like they condone it.(Kinda like when Bush "condoned" the actions of those attacking the Dixie Chicks several years ago)
Yep, because when white people get together, that's all we do is incite hatred towards black people.

I'm appalled by the plans to assassinate Obama it makes me sick and very sad that in this day and age, people are still that stupid. But I do think with or without McCain & Palin, these crazies would have tried something anyways. White supremacists don't need anyone to get them riled up, they already have their agenda.

I disagree. Palin especially is using a lot of "code" racist words in her speeches. It's been proved, over and over, that stirring the pot of an already volatile collection of racist followers can incite them to violence.
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You know, Amanda, you really need to get over your unconditional love for McCain/Palin. They should have acknowledged and condemned this immediately. You, once again, sticking up for them makes you sound a bigot too. You say you're appalled but come farkin' on!
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You know, Amanda, you really need to get over your unconditional love for McCain/Palin. They should have acknowledged and condemned this immediately. You, once again, sticking up for them makes you sound a bigot too. You say you're appalled but come farkin' on!
I wasn't defending them, I said that white supremacists have an agenda already. I never said that McCain and Palin should or shouldn't have said something. IMO they should have, I'm surprised they haven't. Once again I'm called a bigot for not voting for Obama. Wow, I shouldn't be surprised, I shouldn't expect anything less.
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You know, Amanda, you really need to get over your unconditional love for McCain/Palin. They should have acknowledged and condemned this immediately. You, once again, sticking up for them makes you sound a bigot too. You say you're appalled but come farkin' on!
I wasn't defending them, I said that white supremacists have an agenda already. I never said that McCain and Palin should or shouldn't have said something. IMO they should have, I'm surprised they haven't. Once again I'm called a bigot for not voting for Obama. Wow, I shouldn't be surprised, I shouldn't expect anything less.
Amanda, I'm not jumping on you here...but you have GOT to stop twisting people's words.

She did not say you were a bigot for not voting for Obama! She SAID... that you SOUND like a bigot for taking up For McCain/Palin when they have said nothing about this assassination attempt on Obama's life. Silence says more than words, sometimes. Silence means "Hey, it's ok...." Silence where there should be condemnation. When you are silent, you are standing behind an action, not against it. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's what cheeky was basically saying.


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That was totally out of line. You KNOW that is not what Scrappy was saying. Come ON.
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You know, Amanda, you really need to get over your unconditional love for McCain/Palin. They should have acknowledged and condemned this immediately. You, once again, sticking up for them makes you sound a bigot too. You say you're appalled but come farkin' on!
I wasn't defending them, I said that white supremacists have an agenda already. I never said that McCain and Palin should or shouldn't have said something. IMO they should have, I'm surprised they haven't. Once again I'm called a bigot for not voting for Obama. Wow, I shouldn't be surprised, I shouldn't expect anything less.
Amanda, I'm not jumping on you here...but you have GOT to stop twisting people's words.

She did not say you were a bigot for not voting for Obama! She SAID... that you SOUND like a bigot for taking up For McCain/Palin when they have said nothing about this assassination attempt on Obama's life. Silence says more than words, sometimes. Silence means "Hey, it's ok...." Silence where there should be condemnation. When you are silent, you are standing behind an action, not against it. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's what cheeky was basically saying.


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That was totally out of line. You KNOW that is not what Scrappy was saying. Come ON.
Exactly! Thanks, yaggota. I was very careful and precise with my words, Amanda. Instead of getting defensive you might want to actually look at what you wrote. If I'd said something like that and really felt like you say you feel then I'd be apologizing for my words coming out wrong. Not getting defensive and huffy.
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I wasn't defending them, I said that white supremacists have an agenda already. I never said that McCain and Palin should or shouldn't have said something. IMO they should have, I'm surprised they haven't. Once again I'm called a bigot for not voting for Obama. Wow, I shouldn't be surprised, I shouldn't expect anything less.
Amanda, I'm not jumping on you here...but you have GOT to stop twisting people's words.

She did not say you were a bigot for not voting for Obama! She SAID... that you SOUND like a bigot for taking up For McCain/Palin when they have said nothing about this assassination attempt on Obama's life. Silence says more than words, sometimes. Silence means "Hey, it's ok...." Silence where there should be condemnation. When you are silent, you are standing behind an action, not against it. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's what cheeky was basically saying.


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That was totally out of line. You KNOW that is not what Scrappy was saying. Come ON.
Exactly! Thanks, yaggota. I was very careful and precise with my words, Amanda. Instead of getting defensive you might want to actually look at what you wrote. If I'd said something like that and really felt like you say you feel then I'd be apologizing for my words coming out wrong. Not getting defensive and huffy.
Once again I will say, I wasn't defending them. I'm not saying that things that they say couldn't rile up white supremacists, it very well could. What I actually said was that white supremacists seem to be pretty riled up anyways and strike out at people for absolutely no good reason (not that there ever would be a good reason). I'm actually very disappointed that nothing has come out of the McCain camp addressing this. I never condoned their silence, just made an observation that these guys could and probably would have made up a plot (or some other group of crazies) no matter what was said. The crack about when white people get together was probably out of line.
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Yes, it is extremely fair to say. When you have someone who is as white as the snow she lives in, gets up in front of a crowd who is just as white, shouting things like "He's not like us", "He pals around with terrorists" and then does NOTHING when the crowd starts shouting "Kill Him"...then he!! yes, its fair. What's worse about this situation is that there was a plot to kill 102 MORE BLACK people. 102 more, and there is NO mention of how wrong that is?

And like BB said, the McCain & Palin were all about calling and "comforting" the "poor white woman attacked by the big scary black man"....but have NOTHING to say when it is the other way around and on a MUCH larger scale. Without speaking about it, it is almost like they condone it.(Kinda like when Bush "condoned" the actions of those attacking the Dixie Chicks several years ago)
Yep, because when white people get together, that's all we do is incite hatred towards black people.

I'm appalled by the plans to assassinate Obama it makes me sick and very sad that in this day and age, people are still that stupid. But I do think with or without McCain & Palin, these crazies would have tried something anyways. White supremacists don't need anyone to get them riled up, they already have their agenda.

I disagree. Palin especially is using a lot of "code" racist words in her speeches. It's been proved, over and over, that stirring the pot of an already volatile collection of racist followers can incite them to violence.
What are her "code" words? I swear you guys are really getting ridiculous. Do you not remember the Denver convention assassination plot? This was before Palin was picked! Before anyone was digging into his Ayers association among many others. When did white supremacists need anyone to tell them who to kill black people. I thought that was their M.O. These guys are nutjobs and its disgusting to try and excuse their actions by shifting the blame to someone else. Is no one responsible for their behavior?
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Yep, because when white people get together, that's all we do is incite hatred towards black people.

I'm appalled by the plans to assassinate Obama it makes me sick and very sad that in this day and age, people are still that stupid. But I do think with or without McCain & Palin, these crazies would have tried something anyways. White supremacists don't need anyone to get them riled up, they already have their agenda.

I disagree. Palin especially is using a lot of "code" racist words in her speeches. It's been proved, over and over, that stirring the pot of an already volatile collection of racist followers can incite them to violence.
What are her "code" words? I swear you guys are really getting ridiculous. Do you not remember the Denver convention assassination plot? This was before Palin was picked! Before anyone was digging into his Ayers association among many others. When did white supremacists need anyone to tell them who to kill black people. I thought that was their M.O. These guys are nutjobs and its disgusting to try and excuse their actions by shifting the blame to someone else. Is no one responsible for their behavior?
The bolded is exactly what I was trying to say.
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Once again I will say, I wasn't defending them. I'm not saying that things that they say couldn't rile up white supremacists, it very well could. What I actually said was that white supremacists seem to be pretty riled up anyways and strike out at people for absolutely no good reason (not that there ever would be a good reason). I'm actually very disappointed that nothing has come out of the McCain camp addressing this. I never condoned their silence, just made an observation that these guys could and probably would have made up a plot (or some other group of crazies) no matter what was said. The crack about when white people get together was probably out of line.
Good observation... Now for the quiz:

What good does it do to add fuel to the fire by inciting the hate of a group that's already ablaze?

No good... in fact it's all bad.

When you're confronted with a group as described, it's your duty to speak sensibly and responsibly as to not encourage that behavior. It's certainly your duty to speak against it when an act has been committed... so there you go. McCain/Palin down by 2 points!
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Once again I will say, I wasn't defending them. I'm not saying that things that they say couldn't rile up white supremacists, it very well could. What I actually said was that white supremacists seem to be pretty riled up anyways and strike out at people for absolutely no good reason (not that there ever would be a good reason). I'm actually very disappointed that nothing has come out of the McCain camp addressing this. I never condoned their silence, just made an observation that these guys could and probably would have made up a plot (or some other group of crazies) no matter what was said. The crack about when white people get together was probably out of line.
Good observation... Now for the quiz:

What good does it do to add fuel to the fire by inciting the hate of a group that's already ablaze?

No good... in fact it's all bad.

When you're confronted with a group as described, it's your duty to speak sensibly and responsibly as to not encourage that behavior. It's certainly your duty to speak against it when an act has been committed... so there you go. McCain/Palin down by 2 points!
I agree with you. We're all waiting for McCain's response. He has spoken kindly of Obama even to boos in the crowd. I would hope he would keep to his code.
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Are you serious? Is that even remotely fair to say? These were two white supremacists who would have acted like this regardless of who Obama was running against. This is not his first assassination plot either. There are a lot of crazy people out there.
Yes, it is extremely fair to say. When you have someone who is as white as the snow she lives in, gets up in front of a crowd who is just as white, shouting things like "He's not like us", "He pals around with terrorists" and then does NOTHING when the crowd starts shouting "Kill Him"...then he!! yes, its fair. What's worse about this situation is that there was a plot to kill 102 MORE BLACK people. 102 more, and there is NO mention of how wrong that is?

And like BB said, the McCain & Palin were all about calling and "comforting" the "poor white woman attacked by the big scary black man"....but have NOTHING to say when it is the other way around and on a MUCH larger scale. Without speaking about it, it is almost like they condone it.(Kinda like when Bush "condoned" the actions of those attacking the Dixie Chicks several years ago)
Yep, because when white people get together, that's all we do is incite hatred towards black people.

I'm appalled by the plans to assassinate Obama it makes me sick and very sad that in this day and age, people are still that stupid. But I do think with or without McCain & Palin, these crazies would have tried something anyways. White supremacists don't need anyone to get them riled up, they already have their agenda.
There are several things I need to cover in this post, so it will probably be long.

First, we actually agree on something...the white supremacists don't need anyone else getting them riled up. Our agreements end there.

Second, you pulled a portion of my sentence out of context. I said nothing to the effect that "when white people get together, that's all we do is incite hatred towards black people." I said that it was fair to question someone's stance when they stand in front of a crowd stating things that play upon someone's fear and when you talk about someone as being different and meaning that its bad to be different and you do NOTHING when the crowd shouts "kill him" "treason".

Even yesterday, when the news was out about the potential attack on Obama and 102 other black people (14 of which were to be decapitated) she was speaking in front of a crowd when someone from the crowd yells "he's a n*****r". She does NOTHING!!!! She stumbles over her words, but says nothing about it. The video can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9T0FI2axbU

She does NOTHING to stop it. Why didn't she say anything??? She's shot back at hecklers before (see video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U8shdAi4Kw&NR=1) Why not now? Maybe because Iowa has a black population of only 2.5% and a white population of 94.6% http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/19000.html ? I don't know, maybe, maybe not.

No matter what, it was wrong. Instead of telling us what positive changes they will do for us, they are filling us with fear.
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There are several things I need to cover in this post, so it will probably be long.

First, we actually agree on something...the white supremacists don't need anyone else getting them riled up. Our agreements end there.

Second, you pulled a portion of my sentence out of context. I said nothing to the effect that "when white people get together, that's all we do is incite hatred towards black people." I said that it was fair to question someone's stance when they stand in front of a crowd stating things that play upon someone's fear and when you talk about someone as being different and meaning that its bad to be different and you do NOTHING when the crowd shouts "kill him" "treason".

Even yesterday, when the news was out about the potential attack on Obama and 102 other black people (14 of which were to be decapitated) she was speaking in front of a crowd when someone from the crowd yells "he's a n*****r". She does NOTHING!!!! She stumbles over her words, but says nothing about it. The video can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9T0FI2axbU

She does NOTHING to stop it. Why didn't she say anything??? She's shot back at hecklers before (see video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U8shdAi4Kw&NR=1) Why not now? Maybe because Iowa has a black population of only 2.5% and a white population of 94.6% http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/19000.html ? I don't know, maybe, maybe not.

No matter what, it was wrong. Instead of telling us what positive changes they will do for us, they are filling us with fear.
Maybe she didn't say anything because the person said redistributor. That audio is pretty lousy but considering how the MSM treated the "kill him" incident, why I have I not heard the n-word story on the news? The "kill him" shouting in the crowd was completely unfounded and untrue. You can read about it here. http://www.timesleader.com/news/brea...nfounded_.html
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There are several things I need to cover in this post, so it will probably be long.

First, we actually agree on something...the white supremacists don't need anyone else getting them riled up. Our agreements end there.

Second, you pulled a portion of my sentence out of context. I said nothing to the effect that "when white people get together, that's all we do is incite hatred towards black people." I said that it was fair to question someone's stance when they stand in front of a crowd stating things that play upon someone's fear and when you talk about someone as being different and meaning that its bad to be different and you do NOTHING when the crowd shouts "kill him" "treason".

Even yesterday, when the news was out about the potential attack on Obama and 102 other black people (14 of which were to be decapitated) she was speaking in front of a crowd when someone from the crowd yells "he's a n*****r". She does NOTHING!!!! She stumbles over her words, but says nothing about it. The video can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9T0FI2axbU

She does NOTHING to stop it. Why didn't she say anything??? She's shot back at hecklers before (see video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U8shdAi4Kw&NR=1) Why not now? Maybe because Iowa has a black population of only 2.5% and a white population of 94.6% http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/19000.html ? I don't know, maybe, maybe not.

No matter what, it was wrong. Instead of telling us what positive changes they will do for us, they are filling us with fear.
Maybe she didn't say anything because the person said redistributor. That audio is pretty lousy but considering how the MSM treated the "kill him" incident, why I have I not heard the n-word story on the news? The "kill him" shouting in the crowd was completely unfounded and untrue. You can read about it here. http://www.timesleader.com/news/brea...nfounded_.html
And Bill Ayers is what a cub scout leader?
Oh, I get it. So if one side says something bad the other side gets to say something bad. Who's keeping the tally? So childish and wrong. Get over it! This should not be happening and you know it.
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What are her "code" words? I swear you guys are really getting ridiculous. Do you not remember the Denver convention assassination plot? This was before Palin was picked! Before anyone was digging into his Ayers association among many others. When did white supremacists need anyone to tell them who to kill black people. I thought that was their M.O. These guys are nutjobs and its disgusting to try and excuse their actions by shifting the blame to someone else. Is no one responsible for their behavior?
Don't play dumb. We're all big girls here... You can jump around the obvious if you want to, but it is what it is.

There is power in the delivery of words. It's called eloquence, my dear. The ability to speak persuasively and elegantly. The power to convict and persuade by expressing strong emotions in striking and appropriate language. Every politician (and smart person) does it when it benefits them. The problem is, when you use it as a divisive mechanism: pointing out that "he's not like us". Reminds me of that William Lynch Speech:

"I have outlined a number of differences among the slaves: and I take these differences and make them bigger. I use fear, distrust, and envy for control purposes."

So what does this have to do with McCain/Palin?... This is the tool that they've been using to create fear in the hearts of people regarding an Obama administration. Maybe it didn't work on you... but it damn sure worked on those crazies and on those who prefer not to think, but rather be told what to think. And we know there are a lot of those people out there. McCain/Palin should have used their power more responsibly rather than create a rift in our country.
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Yep, because when white people get together, that's all we do is incite hatred towards black people.

I'm appalled by the plans to assassinate Obama it makes me sick and very sad that in this day and age, people are still that stupid. But I do think with or without McCain & Palin, these crazies would have tried something anyways. White supremacists don't need anyone to get them riled up, they already have their agenda.

I disagree. Palin especially is using a lot of "code" racist words in her speeches. It's been proved, over and over, that stirring the pot of an already volatile collection of racist followers can incite them to violence.
What are her "code" words? I swear you guys are really getting ridiculous. Do you not remember the Denver convention assassination plot? This was before Palin was picked! Before anyone was digging into his Ayers association among many others. When did white supremacists need anyone to tell them who to kill black people. I thought that was their M.O. These guys are nutjobs and its disgusting to try and excuse their actions by shifting the blame to someone else. Is no one responsible for their behavior?

"He's not one of us". "Pals around with terrorists" (everyone knows terrorists are dark-skinned). "He wants to take your money and give it out as welfare".

Palin adding fuel to the racist fire and not trying to calm down the hatred at her rallies is wrong.
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There are several things I need to cover in this post, so it will probably be long.

First, we actually agree on something...the white supremacists don't need anyone else getting them riled up. Our agreements end there.

Second, you pulled a portion of my sentence out of context. I said nothing to the effect that "when white people get together, that's all we do is incite hatred towards black people." I said that it was fair to question someone's stance when they stand in front of a crowd stating things that play upon someone's fear and when you talk about someone as being different and meaning that its bad to be different and you do NOTHING when the crowd shouts "kill him" "treason".

Even yesterday, when the news was out about the potential attack on Obama and 102 other black people (14 of which were to be decapitated) she was speaking in front of a crowd when someone from the crowd yells "he's a n*****r". She does NOTHING!!!! She stumbles over her words, but says nothing about it. The video can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9T0FI2axbU

She does NOTHING to stop it. Why didn't she say anything??? She's shot back at hecklers before (see video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U8shdAi4Kw&NR=1) Why not now? Maybe because Iowa has a black population of only 2.5% and a white population of 94.6% http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/19000.html ? I don't know, maybe, maybe not.

No matter what, it was wrong. Instead of telling us what positive changes they will do for us, they are filling us with fear.
Maybe she didn't say anything because the person said redistributor. That audio is pretty lousy but considering how the MSM treated the "kill him" incident, why I have I not heard the n-word story on the news? The "kill him" shouting in the crowd was completely unfounded and untrue. You can read about it here. http://www.timesleader.com/news/brea...nfounded_.html
And Bill Ayers is what a cub scout leader?
Why did the crowd even groan or boo? If they were shouting redistributor I don't think you would hear groaning from the crowd. Also, I just listened to this video - I did not watch it I just listened....that is the N word....sorry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=722N115e_rs


I have to say I have such a hard time listening to her and I think I figured it out - her speech cadence is off. (Is that the proper use of that word??-I think it is but want to make sure) Her speech does not flow - it's hard for me to pay attention.
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Old 10-28-2008, 10:27 AM   #39
 
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What are her "code" words? I swear you guys are really getting ridiculous. Do you not remember the Denver convention assassination plot? This was before Palin was picked! Before anyone was digging into his Ayers association among many others. When did white supremacists need anyone to tell them who to kill black people. I thought that was their M.O. These guys are nutjobs and its disgusting to try and excuse their actions by shifting the blame to someone else. Is no one responsible for their behavior?
Don't play dumb. We're all big girls here... You can jump around the obvious if you want to, but it is what it is.

There is power in the delivery of words. It's called eloquence, my dear. The ability to speak persuasively and elegantly. The power to convict and persuade by expressing strong emotions in striking and appropriate language. Every politician (and smart person) does it when it benefits them. The problem is, when you use it as a divisive mechanism: pointing out that "he's not like us". Reminds me of that William Lynch Speech:

"I have outlined a number of differences among the slaves: and I take these differences and make them bigger. I use fear, distrust, and envy for control purposes."

So what does this have to do with McCain/Palin?... This is the tool that they've been using to create fear in the hearts of people regarding an Obama administration. Maybe it didn't work on you... but it damn sure worked on those crazies and on those who prefer not to think, but rather be told what to think. And we know there are a lot of those people out there. McCain/Palin should have used their power more responsibly rather than create a rift in our country.
How is it playing dumb to ask a question? I would like someone to cite what it is they perceive to be code words. I ask for clarification and now I'm stupid or playing so. Thanks. I don't share your view that every is that malleable or manipulated but you are entitled to your opinion
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I have to say I have such a hard time listening to her and I think I figured it out - her speech cadence is off. (Is that the proper use of that word??-I think it is but want to make sure) Her speech does not flow - it's hard for me to pay attention.


Her cadence is odd, and her grammar is backwards, nearly all the time. It's like she speaks another language.

Rachel Maddow did a few segments of her show on this...called it "What did she say? Does anyone speak Palin?"
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