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10-28-2008, 10:40 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 409
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CottonCandy... You're very smart. I see you on these threads and you often times evaluate things from a different perspective which I can appreciate because it forces me to look at things from all angles. So evaluate now. You're very good at breaking down the semantics and you don't need clarification. You don't have to share my view, or agree with me, but don't be so complacent in your own ideals.
Scroll up and read the William Lynch Quote again, then sleep on it.
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10-28-2008, 10:49 AM
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#42
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 344
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And when I hear Timothy McVeigh I think dark-skinned? Um no. Bill Ayers record speaks for itself...a desire to overthrow the government and kill innocent civilians and institute a communist regime. Great. And giving a "income tax credit" to people who don't pay income taxes is what? The He's not one of us was in a full speech referring to how Obama sees the country differently than most americans who believe in american exceptionalism, a strong military, and are not part of the far-left. It's like no one can say anything about Obama without having the racism charge levied at them. I'm glad you like your candidate, but man up. He is not the end all be all. And a number of his views are way out of the mainstream. I wouldn't care if he a purple man from Brazil, there are more than enough reasons to not want to vote for the guy.
And I'm disturbed by how he has leveled pre-emptive race charges at everyone so as to deflect any attention to his record or associations. And now everyone is so race obsessed they are combing over people's words in the most outrageous ways. This goes back to portraying the Clintons as racist for saying something true about LBJ and MLK. Or Bill saying Jesse Jackson won South Carolina. Gee whiz people. Grow up. If you want to live life digging for "racism" at every turn, have at it.
This has gone from a thread where everyone was genuinely concerned for the Obama's safety into an attack on Palin and how she is the KKK puppet master. And when I say Palin Derangment Syndrome, you guys think I'm crazy. Okie dokie. Good luck with that.
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10-28-2008, 10:54 AM
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#43
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 344
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Have you been following the campaign or Joe the Plumber. People don't like redistribution especially people who go to a Palin rally. Also why haven't I heard anything about it on the news. They all jumped to spread the false "kill him" story. Why aren't they all over this? If someone can verify that is what was shouted in the crowd, I'd condemn it and look at their campaign with heavy suspicion. But words flashing on a screen on a youtube clip with poor audio in the background is not proof of much.
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10-28-2008, 11:04 AM
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#44
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 344
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I'll let his words marinate and sleep on it. But I think we just look at the world differently. All the reasons I'm not voting for Obama have little to do with his race. As a black woman it's not like I'm an advocate for divisiveness or race-baiting. I don't want to live in a world with crazy skinheads plotting my demise.
But if Obama was a Russian named Baruch. The fears about him would be the same. His racist pastor, his "former" domestic terrorist neighbor, his voting record, his sealed school records, an in-the-tank MSM, a redistributionist economic plan, his preference for activist judges, his lack of executive experience, his neophyte ideas about foreign policy, his loopy VP, his tax hikes and increased spending, and on and on and on. None of these have to do with race!
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10-28-2008, 11:08 AM
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#45
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 13,131
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The link I posted is a different one - it does not have the words popping up. Go take a listen.
And please don't assume I don't know what's going on with this campaign. We can disagree but don't be insulting.
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One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~
In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
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10-28-2008, 11:34 AM
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#46
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 409
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That's why I like you CC. Feisty, but with good, calculated reasoning. I understand why you're voting the way you are. I'm just glad you're voting. But my post was more in response to your "what are the codes?" question. I don't go hunting for inequality/racism, but I have a very keen nose for it. Being born and raised in the south and a victim of it myself, it's a stench that I can't ignore, even in it's subtle forms.
Also, the William Lynch speech "The Makings of a Slave" is a good read. I encourage you to study it and pm me with your thoughts.
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10-28-2008, 11:37 AM
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#47
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 344
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I was not trying to be insulting xcptnl but you were asking why they would groan at redistribution which is what the whole Joe the Plumber episode was about. Sorry if that came across as rude. I checked out the link and it is much clearer that the n-word was said in that video. And if true, a million times more disturbing. She's not responsible for the knuckleheads who show up at her rally but why didn't she freaking say something if not then, why not a statement later.
Andrew Sullivan is working on validating what was actually said since these things can be doctored for a youtube clip. The two videos sound very different. So i'll have to hold reservation. But if that was said and she didnt' say jack about it, it's evil and a sign of a seriously deficient character.
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10-28-2008, 11:38 AM
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#48
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 13,131
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Ahh I see where you are coming from and no apology necessary.
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Central Massachusetts
One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~
In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
Last edited by xcptnl; 10-28-2008 at 12:15 PM.
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10-28-2008, 12:05 PM
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#49
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,498
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It looks as if she heard it too. Notice how she stumbles on her next word?
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10-28-2008, 12:33 PM
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#50
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 31,429
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McVeigh wasn't a terrorist. He was a mass murderer. Terrorists work for ongoing fear. McVeigh worked in one single incident of mass death. The general perception of "terrorist" in this country is someone from the Middle East, and it goes along with all the whisper-emails accusing Obama of being a muslim that McCain used as part of his campaign process.
Our country has been giving Earned Income Credit to low-wage earners as part of our tax codes for DECADES. If you want to pin that on Obama, then you might be as ignorant as the rest of McCain/Palin crowd. Luckily, I think most people are savvy enough about income taxes to know what it means. Yeah, we have some socialist programs in this country. SOCIAL Security is one such program. Welfare is another. The EIC is socialist also. What of it? We need a bit of socialism to take care of our young, sick, and elderly population. You'd rather we didn't?
I "woman up", not "man up".
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10-28-2008, 01:32 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 344
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Are you serious? He is documented as conducting the largest domestic terrorist attack since 9/11. He was an anti-government gun nut who wanted to target federal officials who were involved in the Waco and Ruby Ridge standoffs and kill innocent civilians in the process. His whole goal was to scare and intimidate and threaten the country for not being as extremist and crazy as himself. Because he was caught shortly afterwards did not mean he did not have ongoing plans to wreak havoc. The man was so extreme he quit the NRA because he found them weak on gun laws.To call him a mass murderer is laughable at best, his target was the "evil empire" not people. He maybe of the neo-nazi right wing variety but he's a TERRORIST.
Did I pin EITC on Obama? No he didn't create them and he won't end them. But I think his whole tax cut schpiel is extremely misleading. Here's a decent article breaking down his 95% tax cut his campaign keeps proclaiming on the stump. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html.
If you have read some of my posts you would no that I have never advocated to eliminate all entitlement programs. But they need to be restructured. There is an old post where I talk about the first versions of welfare reform enacted by the Democrats in the 60's and how it actually made the black community worse off. I'm not against helping people but I don't have any illusions how some forms of "help" can lead to irresponsibility, shiftlessness and dependency. There is a balance. But you'd rather call me ignorant and unsavvy. Okay.
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10-28-2008, 02:12 PM
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#52
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Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 3,446
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Actually, that wasn't "his record". He goal was to destroy property. His group never wanted to kill anyone and from my research they didn't kill anyone. The only deaths that occurred was within their own membership and it was an accident.
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10-28-2008, 02:35 PM
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#53
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 4,841
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Even with McVeigh's case the authorities were initially seeking and expecting Middle Easterners. The white, homegrown American is usually not what most people in this country picture when you use that word, especially after 9/11.
Last edited by gemini; 10-28-2008 at 02:40 PM.
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10-28-2008, 02:44 PM
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#54
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 5,295
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Come on now. We all know full well that in the good ol US of A in THIS day and age the, profile of a Terrorist is a Middle Easterner
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