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Old 10-30-2008, 01:28 PM   #21
 
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I don't have a very strong opinion on this issue, but I did just want to share that this thread inspired me to double check the laws in my county. I moved last year, and while I'm in the same state I switched counties. I've changed my address but have not gotten a new drivers' license yet, and have (of course) lost my change of address card from the DMV. I've even gotten a new voter registration card.

It didn't occur to me until last week or so that if I"m asked for photo ID when I vote (I can't remember if that's the case in Maryland) my ID and my voter reg card would have different addresses, and based on that I could be put on provisional. But I checked the laws in my county and confirmed my suspicion that a pay stub or utility bill with the correct name and address will be sufficient.

So... yeah. Thanks.
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:35 AM   #22
 
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Personally, I like the paper ballots. I like that if the computer malfunctions they could be hand counted. Hanging chads or not it's better than nothing.
I feel the same way. No matter how techie our society is getting, I don't think we will ever get rid of paper entirely.
Maryland is going back to paper after this election.
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Have any of you Americans here ever voted *without* showing an ID? Aside from when I voted absentee, I haven't, so I wonder why this seems so new or redundant.
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I don't have a very strong opinion on this issue, but I did just want to share that this thread inspired me to double check the laws in my county. I moved last year, and while I'm in the same state I switched counties. I've changed my address but have not gotten a new drivers' license yet, and have (of course) lost my change of address card from the DMV. I've even gotten a new voter registration card.

It didn't occur to me until last week or so that if I"m asked for photo ID when I vote (I can't remember if that's the case in Maryland) my ID and my voter reg card would have different addresses, and based on that I could be put on provisional. But I checked the laws in my county and confirmed my suspicion that a pay stub or utility bill with the correct name and address will be sufficient.

So... yeah. Thanks.

I checked mine too, and found out legally I don't have to show an photo ID, unless I'm voting early. I swore it was the law. I don't have a problem showing it, so it's not a big deal.
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When voting, I'm always asked to show my driver's license.
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This year's primary election was the first time I have ever been asked to show my ID.
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Have any of you Americans here ever voted *without* showing an ID? Aside from when I voted absentee, I haven't, so I wonder why this seems so new or redundant.
I have never been asked for my ID when voting.
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I've never had to show ID except for the first time I registered in MN when I moved here form another state. We have same day registration and if you don't have ID you can bring a utility bill or a registered neighbor that will vouch for you in writing.
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I don't have a very strong opinion on this issue, but I did just want to share that this thread inspired me to double check the laws in my county. I moved last year, and while I'm in the same state I switched counties. I've changed my address but have not gotten a new drivers' license yet, and have (of course) lost my change of address card from the DMV. I've even gotten a new voter registration card.

It didn't occur to me until last week or so that if I"m asked for photo ID when I vote (I can't remember if that's the case in Maryland) my ID and my voter reg card would have different addresses, and based on that I could be put on provisional. But I checked the laws in my county and confirmed my suspicion that a pay stub or utility bill with the correct name and address will be sufficient.

So... yeah. Thanks.
Yeah, I'm in the same position- I moved and never changed the address on my ID. But my voter reg. card has my new address on it. I'll bring along a utility bill just in case, but I doubt it will be an issue because:

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Have any of you Americans here ever voted *without* showing an ID? Aside from when I voted absentee, I haven't, so I wonder why this seems so new or redundant.
I've never been asked for any kind of ID. We'll see if that's the case at my new polling site.
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Have any of you Americans here ever voted *without* showing an ID? Aside from when I voted absentee, I haven't, so I wonder why this seems so new or redundant.
I haven't either. I voted during the midterm elections, the primaries, and then today. They take my ID, enter some info, then print out my access code for the computer and a sticker with my name and address. Then I initial to say I showed my ID and sign below the sticker before moving on to the voting machines.
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I posted this in another thread but "Mexico requires every voter to prove citizenship and eligibility by presenting a federally issued Mexican voter ID card that bears the voter's picture, fingerprint, a holographic image to prevent tampering and a barcode. This is a very simple and elegant solution. And the Democratic party would most likely oppose it."
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The ACLU would oppose it, I'm sure, but I don't see this even being an issue. Most of the Democrats who have replied here are for it, or indifferent.
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The ACLU would oppose it, I'm sure, but I don't see this even being an issue. Most of the Democrats who have replied here are for it, or indifferent.
I'm talking about party representatives when I say the Democratic Party. Most Americans were against the bailout but that didn't make a hay of difference to elected officials to either party.

The Democratic Party has been consistently against it anytime Voter Id legislation comes up party leaders and union bosses refer to it as "Republican voter suppresion bill" or a "modern day poll tax."

And some suspect that maybe the party is afraid that Democrats could lose some support since illegals and the non-living will be excluded from "participating" in future elections. It was Bill Clinton in '93 who passed the Motor Voter Act which was very voter-fraud friendly. But hey, that's politics.
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Have any of you Americans here ever voted *without* showing an ID? Aside from when I voted absentee, I haven't, so I wonder why this seems so new or redundant.
I did. Twice now. In Texas. 3 if you count caucusing.

I was able to register without showing any ID. When it was time to vote, both in the primary and in early voting for the November election, I just brought my voter registration card.

I have never, ever had to show any form of ID to vote in TX.
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Have any of you Americans here ever voted *without* showing an ID? Aside from when I voted absentee, I haven't, so I wonder why this seems so new or redundant.
I did. Twice now. In Texas. 3 if you count caucusing.

I was able to register without showing any ID. When it was time to vote, both in the primary and in early voting for the November election, I just brought my voter registration card.

I have never, ever had to show any form of ID to vote in TX.
Really? That's weird, because I'm also in Texas. It must be a county thing.
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Have any of you Americans here ever voted *without* showing an ID? Aside from when I voted absentee, I haven't, so I wonder why this seems so new or redundant.
I did. Twice now. In Texas. 3 if you count caucusing.

I was able to register without showing any ID. When it was time to vote, both in the primary and in early voting for the November election, I just brought my voter registration card.

I have never, ever had to show any form of ID to vote in TX.
Really? That's weird, because I'm also in Texas. It must be a county thing.
Well considering you can register by mail, there is nobody to check your id.

I am a deputy voter registrar and we are told expressly we cannot check or validate eligibility to vote or id, just take the applications, sign off on them, give them a receipt and turn the applications in to the election office.

If you have a voter registration card, you don't need to show id to vote.
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Well considering you can register by mail, there is nobody to check your id.

I am a deputy voter registrar and we are told expressly we cannot check or validate eligibility to vote or id, just take the applications, sign off on them, give them a receipt and turn the applications in to the election office.

If you have a voter registration card, you don't need to show id to vote.
That's the thing. I know I have a card somewhere, but I have no idea where. I guess in that light, I can see why people might be upset with showing ID. But really, showing your license is less of a hassle.
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I guess my point is that if one really wanted to participate in voter fraud, there really is nothing in TX stopping you. You could vote using anyone's card. You can register in anyone's name as long as you know the last 4 digits of their SS#, and then get a card. You could register as 100 different people, get 100 different cards, go vote 100 different times. And if any of those 100 people are in TX and registered before you, when they go to vote, they are denied. Nice, huh?
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