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Old 11-05-2008, 05:55 AM   #1
 
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Default No dog racing but you can have an ounce of Pot in MA

Well, we will no longer have dog racing in the State of Mass but we can have an ounce of pot in our possession and just get a fine. Sometimes how people vote crack me up. I am not judging here but can you see someone in the voting booth going - They are soo mean to the dogs but sure - let them have their pot. It just seems contradictory to me but that is my weird thought process.
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Sounds about right to me....
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Me too. Dog racing is cruel to the animals and brings in a bad gambling element, and I don't like to see court systems and jails clogged up with people who smoke dried out weeds.
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LOL

I actually think that's pretty awesome.
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Me too. Dog racing is cruel to the animals and brings in a bad gambling element, and I don't like to see court systems and jails clogged up with people who smoke dried out weeds.

So does horse racing but they must have better lobbyists in this state because that was not on the ballot.
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Me too. Dog racing is cruel to the animals and brings in a bad gambling element, and I don't like to see court systems and jails clogged up with people who smoke dried out weeds.

So does horse racing but they must have better lobbyists in this state because that was not on the ballot.

I agree with you.
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It makes sense to me. I have no problem with decriminalizing mj - seems like a waste of resources. I'm also glad that dog racing is banned and I would love to see the same happen to horse racing, but I'm doubtful.
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I have to say that I would imagine the people selling those 'ounces' of pot to people also bring a bad element in. I could really care less about either but in my head they seem a bit contradictory to me.
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I have to say that I would imagine the people selling those 'ounces' of pot to people also bring a bad element in. I could really care less about either but in my head they seem a bit contradictory to me.
I can see where you are coming from, xcptnl. I think about that too. I wonder what percentage of dealers also sell other drugs, esp. hardcore ones like heroin. If it were strictly pot, I don't think I'd care so much. But I get the feeling that most dealers probably are involved with a number of more dangerous drugs. And it is that stuff I want to see gone most of all.
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My perspective is a little outdated (but only by 10 years or so) but my experience is that people who sell pot only sell pot. People who're making the kind of money you make dealing harder drugs aren't interested in pot.
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My perspective is a little outdated (but only by 10 years or so) but my experience is that people who sell pot only sell pot. People who're making the kind of money you make dealing harder drugs aren't interested in pot.
This is true. To make major bucks in the pot game, you have to move kilo's. The repercussions for dealing weed is much more stringent than the consequences for dealing most other (not all) hard drugs, oddly enough. Most won't risk their freedom for small change.
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My perspective is a little outdated (but only by 10 years or so) but my experience is that people who sell pot only sell pot. People who're making the kind of money you make dealing harder drugs aren't interested in pot.
This is true. To make major bucks in the pot game, you have to move kilo's. The repercussions for dealing weed is much more stringent than the consequences for dealing most other (not all) hard drugs, oddly enough. Most won't risk their freedom for small change.
I understand. But it's still not the element of people you want as someone was saying that gambling brings in an element you don't want. As I noted - there is bad to both sides so it just one of those things that made me go hmmmm. No dogs but pot is OK.
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My perspective is a little outdated (but only by 10 years or so) but my experience is that people who sell pot only sell pot. People who're making the kind of money you make dealing harder drugs aren't interested in pot.
This is true. To make major bucks in the pot game, you have to move kilo's. The repercussions for dealing weed is much more stringent than the consequences for dealing most other (not all) hard drugs, oddly enough. Most won't risk their freedom for small change.
I understand. But it's still not the element of people you want as someone was saying that gambling brings in an element you don't want. As I noted - there is bad to both sides so it just one of those things that made me go hmmmm. No dogs but pot is OK.
I suppose I can see what you're saying, I just view it differently. In my experience, marijuana doesn't really come with a really sketchy element. It comes with video games.
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I believe there are studies that show pot use leads to use of other drugs. I wonder if the pot smokers will be sad that they cannot gamble.
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This is true. To make major bucks in the pot game, you have to move kilo's. The repercussions for dealing weed is much more stringent than the consequences for dealing most other (not all) hard drugs, oddly enough. Most won't risk their freedom for small change.
I understand. But it's still not the element of people you want as someone was saying that gambling brings in an element you don't want. As I noted - there is bad to both sides so it just one of those things that made me go hmmmm. No dogs but pot is OK.
I suppose I can see what you're saying, I just view it differently. In my experience, marijuana doesn't really come with a really sketchy element. It comes with video games.
To me pot is about the same level as alcohol. It just smells worse, lol.
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I understand. But it's still not the element of people you want as someone was saying that gambling brings in an element you don't want. As I noted - there is bad to both sides so it just one of those things that made me go hmmmm. No dogs but pot is OK.
I suppose I can see what you're saying, I just view it differently. In my experience, marijuana doesn't really come with a really sketchy element. It comes with video games.
To me pot is about the same level as alcohol. It just smells worse, lol.
But in most states you cannot have alcohol in your car. It's a fast way to end up at the jail with your license ripped up taking a breathalyzer test. But you can have an ounce of pot in your car and just get fined?
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I suppose I can see what you're saying, I just view it differently. In my experience, marijuana doesn't really come with a really sketchy element. It comes with video games.
To me pot is about the same level as alcohol. It just smells worse, lol.
But in most states you cannot have alcohol in your car. It's a fast way to end up at the jail with your license ripped up taking a breathalyzer test. But you can have an ounce of pot in your car and just get fined?
(I don't drive.) I've never heard that before, if it's true it's totally whack. You can't pick up a bottle of wine with your grocery shopping? Or if it's in the trunk it's okay maybe? I can see why beer open in the cupholder would be a problem. Strange!
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I suppose I can see what you're saying, I just view it differently. In my experience, marijuana doesn't really come with a really sketchy element. It comes with video games.
To me pot is about the same level as alcohol. It just smells worse, lol.
But in most states you cannot have alcohol in your car. It's a fast way to end up at the jail with your license ripped up taking a breathalyzer test. But you can have an ounce of pot in your car and just get fined?
I think you must be mistaken on this, though if you have a source to cite I'd love to see it.

It's true that you haven't have open containers in your car. But of course you can have it in the car, since many states won't allow alcohol to be shipped to residential addresses. So how would people get it if they couldn't go get it at the store and drive it home?

But open containers, yes. And I suspect it would still be a problem if you were caught smoking a joint behind the wheel. But simply have pot in the car-- in a baggie in your glove box, for instance, because that seems pretty equivalent to having a six pack (all sealed up) on the floor of the passenger seat-- I don't see why that should be a crime.
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To me pot is about the same level as alcohol. It just smells worse, lol.
But in most states you cannot have alcohol in your car. It's a fast way to end up at the jail with your license ripped up taking a breathalyzer test. But you can have an ounce of pot in your car and just get fined?
I think you must be mistaken on this, though if you have a source to cite I'd love to see it.

It's true that you haven't have open containers in your car. But of course you can have it in the car, since many states won't allow alcohol to be shipped to residential addresses. So how would people get it if they couldn't go get it at the store and drive it home?

But open containers, yes. And I suspect it would still be a problem if you were caught smoking a joint behind the wheel. But simply have pot in the car-- in a baggie in your glove box, for instance, because that seems pretty equivalent to having a six pack (all sealed up) on the floor of the passenger seat-- I don't see why that should be a crime.
That is what I meant. I dunno about this nor do I really care since I don't smoke pot.

Just a wacky vote IMO.
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It helps ensure that those who have marijuana for medical purposes don't end up being labeled dealers without having to confront the whole issue of "medical marijuana." Nobody really wants to jail glaucoma and cancer sufferers for only trying to find some relief.

Also federal laws concerning drugs trump local laws but in the case of marijuana the feds tend to let the locals handle it their own way.
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