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and I'm already sick of hearing the hate and bitterness that's coming from people who didn't get what they wanted. Being disappointed, and perhaps a little bit upset I can understand. But this "Pray for our country, we need it" and "It's only 'cause he's Black" stuff is just ridiculous.

I understand that the two men that were up for office were VERY very different, and as a result the nation is very split about this decision. However, we REALLY need to start getting past this NOW, so that things can start to change and we're not fighting with one another to the deteriment of our country (and the world).

Is anyone just royally sick of it? I'm a little afraid that the hardcore republicans that are fueling this kind of feeling won't abate at ALL over the next 4 years, and any progress that might be made will be totally overshadowed by the blind hate.
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Where was all this "come together" talk when Bush won? If McCain had won, people would be lamenting for weeks and saying the same things. A lot of us are disappointed, but the majority of us will pull it together and support the president, no matter who he is. Are we not allowed to have a few days to be a little sad and disappointed?
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and I'm already sick of hearing the hate and bitterness that's coming from people who didn't get what they wanted. Being disappointed, and perhaps a little bit upset I can understand. But this "Pray for our country, we need it" and "It's only 'cause he's Black" stuff is just ridiculous.

I understand that the two men that were up for office were VERY very different, and as a result the nation is very split about this decision. However, we REALLY need to start getting past this NOW, so that things can start to change and we're not fighting with one another to the deteriment of our country (and the world).

Is anyone just royally sick of it? I'm a little afraid that the hardcore republicans that are fueling this kind of feeling won't abate at ALL over the next 4 years, and any progress that might be made will be totally overshadowed by the blind hate.
I am VERY sick of it too! Can't we be a truly UNITED States of America? Why do people want to be so hateful and ignorant? It's a new era, they need to accept that.
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Where was all this "come together" talk when Bush won? If McCain had won, people would be lamenting for weeks and saying the same things. A lot of us are disappointed, but the majority of us will pull it together and support the president, no matter who he is. Are we not allowed to have a few days to be a little sad and disappointed?
I really hope you're right!
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Where was all this "come together" talk when Bush won? If McCain had won, people would be lamenting for weeks and saying the same things. A lot of us are disappointed, but the majority of us will pull it together and support the president, no matter who he is. Are we not allowed to have a few days to be a little sad and disappointed?
I agree. And MSNBC spent a few hours after the announcement focusing only on the fact that he is an African American. It would have been nice if they had included other qualities, as I'm sure that people didn't vote for him just because of that. So I can see people may think that (I don't, I'm just guessing). And I'm sure if McCain had won, there would have been a lot of "well it's because he's white" comments.

We've been listening to this for two years. It's going to take a while to get over the disappointment.
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Where was all this "come together" talk when Bush won? If McCain had won, people would be lamenting for weeks and saying the same things. A lot of us are disappointed, but the majority of us will pull it together and support the president, no matter who he is. Are we not allowed to have a few days to be a little sad and disappointed?
definitely and I fully understand that. No matter who won, that would have been a necessary 'grieving period' for lack of a better term for the people who's candidate. And that kind of disappointment isn't really what i'm talking about.

It's the OUTRAGEOUS crap that I'm hearing from a lot of my friends and family that has me worried. They're not the furthest right-wing kinds of people... and if they're reacting with such hate and bitterness already, it concerns me what will continue on in those people who are even further right.
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Where was all this "come together" talk when Bush won? If McCain had won, people would be lamenting for weeks and saying the same things. A lot of us are disappointed, but the majority of us will pull it together and support the president, no matter who he is. Are we not allowed to have a few days to be a little sad and disappointed?
definitely and I fully understand that. No matter who won, that would have been a necessary 'grieving period' for lack of a better term for the people who's candidate. And that kind of disappointment isn't really what i'm talking about.

It's the OUTRAGEOUS crap that I'm hearing from a lot of my friends and family that has me worried. They're not the furthest right-wing kinds of people... and if they're reacting with such hate and bitterness already, it concerns me what will continue on in those people who are even further right.
I'm one of those people who is like "I'm disappointed BUT I'm still an American, I'm still proud to be an American and I'm going to stand behind whoever is elected". I loved McCain's speech last night, and the majority of people, I believe, will fall in with what he said. There will be very vocal dissenters, as there always are, but the vast majority of conservatives will try to work with Obama, instead of against it. At least that's what I hope, I'm optimistic.
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To me, it's to be expected.
I heard some guy on the radio referring us to the Soviet States of America...or something ridiculous like that.
I think it just makes me that much more sure that the right candidate has been picked.

We do need to be concerned about the far, far, far right loons...those on the fringes...who might try to do something harmful to either Obama or to whomever disagrees with them.
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Where was all this "come together" talk when Bush won? If McCain had won, people would be lamenting for weeks and saying the same things. A lot of us are disappointed, but the majority of us will pull it together and support the president, no matter who he is. Are we not allowed to have a few days to be a little sad and disappointed?
definitely and I fully understand that. No matter who won, that would have been a necessary 'grieving period' for lack of a better term for the people who's candidate. And that kind of disappointment isn't really what i'm talking about.

It's the OUTRAGEOUS crap that I'm hearing from a lot of my friends and family that has me worried. They're not the furthest right-wing kinds of people... and if they're reacting with such hate and bitterness already, it concerns me what will continue on in those people who are even further right.
I'm one of those people who is like "I'm disappointed BUT I'm still an American, I'm still proud to be an American and I'm going to stand behind whoever is elected". I loved McCain's speech last night, and the majority of people, I believe, will fall in with what he said. There will be very vocal dissenters, as there always are, but the vast majority of conservatives will try to work with Obama, instead of against it. At least that's what I hope, I'm optimistic.
I'm really glad to hear that Amanda, and I really hope that a majority of everyone is the same way. McCain's speech last night was beyond classy, and I really felt he earned a lot of respect from everyone from the words he said, and he heartfelt way he said them. I'm trying to be optimistic too, and maybe in another week or so it'll be easier to see the light at the end of all this.

I will say that some of the Obama supporters aren't making it easier to come together either. It's a problem on both sides. I don't feel like there should be venomous hate on the losing side, nor prideful gloating on the winning side. It just makes everything so immature and selfish...
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Where was all this "come together" talk when Bush won? If McCain had won, people would be lamenting for weeks and saying the same things. A lot of us are disappointed, but the majority of us will pull it together and support the president, no matter who he is. Are we not allowed to have a few days to be a little sad and disappointed?
Yes, I think you are entitled to a mourning period. I would have been just as disappointed had Obama lost.
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I've been sick of the crap for months; his being Muslim so the country's going to hell in a hand basket, his being Black & wanting to change everything to suit the race, being a racist & terrorist due to previous friendships or acquaintances in personal or professional life, not having experience, being Democrat & wanting to get rid of the military, accepting funds from certain companies, etc. & so on!!!

There's no debating with anyone over what they believe so I can only , keep , go home & lest I get into a or fight with someone.

You know he's going to have to work extra hard, mind his Ps & Qs, do what he promised & go above & beyond the call of duty to prove himself & shut the mouths & open the minds of the naysayers. Otherwise they're going to be overusing "I told you so! What did I say? I knew it!"
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Where was all this "come together" talk when Bush won? If McCain had won, people would be lamenting for weeks and saying the same things. A lot of us are disappointed, but the majority of us will pull it together and support the president, no matter who he is. Are we not allowed to have a few days to be a little sad and disappointed?
Yes, I think you are entitled to a mourning period. I would have been just as disappointed had Obama lost.
Me too. Kerry was not a good candidate in 2004, but I did the mourning period too.
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I've been sick of the crap for months; his being Muslim so the country's going to hell in a hand basket, his being Black & wanting to change everything to suit the race, being a racist & terrorist due to previous friendships or acquaintances in personal or professional life, not having experience, being Democrat & wanting to get rid of the military, accepting funds from certain companies, etc. & so on!!!

There's no debating with anyone over what they believe so I can only , keep , go home & lest I get into a or fight with someone.

You know he's going to have to work extra hard, mind his Ps & Qs, do what he promised & go above & beyond the call of duty to prove himself & shut the mouths & open the minds of the naysayers. Otherwise they're going to be overusing "I told you so! What did I say? I knew it!"
Indeed, and how do they think it makes people who practice Islam feel? Many of them have fought & are fighting for this country but apparently they aren't worthy of the recognition because they're all evil and hate the U.S.
I can't stand people who have that kind of mindset, I hope they will snap out of it one day.
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I am an Obama supporter and have closely read this forum for many months. The reason I am jumping into this discussion is because I would like to place before you the similarities between what has transpired on this forum and in this country. The process works. Many of you supported Obama and some of you supported McCain. Of course, the McCain voters are disappointed and the extreme voices will be heard on the news/radio programs and on the Ops Ed pages of our newspapers. But just as this forum proves, people DON'T hate each other, they DISAGREE with each other. As you read a conciliatory tone on this forum which is compiled of real people, so will our country soon forget the divisiveness of the campaigns. We are Americans. We will unify ourselves in spite of the pundit's attempts to explain these events away as a racial or economic decision.

This campaign was bigger than any one of us. It will take a whole nation to move forward now. And I, for one, have a lot of faith in the people of this country. We are poised on the stage of a very complex world and I believe that ultimately, we will be the voice of hope, the example that difficulties can be overcome if you allow people to speak their truth in freedom. Luck and prayers to ALL of us as we move forward into the future.
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Where was all this "come together" talk when Bush won? If McCain had won, people would be lamenting for weeks and saying the same things. A lot of us are disappointed, but the majority of us will pull it together and support the president, no matter who he is. Are we not allowed to have a few days to be a little sad and disappointed?
Yes, I think you are entitled to a mourning period. I would have been just as disappointed had Obama lost.
Me too. Kerry was not a good candidate in 2004, but I did the mourning period too.
In 2004, I did too, but I didn't get into the dramatic "God Help Us all" garbage and I was pretty quiet about my feelings. I was in a right leaning office and I certainly remember the gloating that took place. Because I remember how that felt, I am not gloating. This morning our office (different workplace, but the defense industry is a heavily right leaning field for obvious reasons) is eerily quiet.

I honestly hope we are a more unified country after Obama takes office. I don't want anymore "Us and them" politics.
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I've been sick of the crap for months; his being Muslim so the country's going to hell in a hand basket, his being Black & wanting to change everything to suit the race, being a racist & terrorist due to previous friendships or acquaintances in personal or professional life, not having experience, being Democrat & wanting to get rid of the military, accepting funds from certain companies, etc. & so on!!!

There's no debating with anyone over what they believe so I can only , keep , go home & lest I get into a or fight with someone.

You know he's going to have to work extra hard, mind his Ps & Qs, do what he promised & go above & beyond the call of duty to prove himself & shut the mouths & open the minds of the naysayers. Otherwise they're going to be overusing "I told you so! What did I say? I knew it!"
Indeed, and how do they think it makes people who practice Islam feel? Many of them have fought & are fighting for this country but apparently they aren't worthy of the recognition because they're all evil and hate the U.S.
I can't stand people who have that kind of mindset, I hope they will snap out of it one day.
Yes, it's this kind of mindset that's really bothering me.
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I am an Obama supporter and have closely read this forum for many months. The reason I am jumping into this discussion is because I would like to place before you the similarities between what has transpired on this forum and in this country. The process works. Many of you supported Obama and some of you supported McCain. Of course, the McCain voters are disappointed and the extreme voices will be heard on the news/radio programs and on the Ops Ed pages of our newspapers. But just as this forum proves, people DON'T hate each other, they DISAGREE with each other. As you read a conciliatory tone on this forum which is compiled of real people, so will our country soon forget the divisiveness of the campaigns. We are Americans. We will unify ourselves in spite of the pundit's attempts to explain these events away as a racial or economic decision.

This campaign was bigger than any one of us. It will take a whole nation to move forward now. And I, for one, have a lot of faith in the people of this country. We are poised on the stage of a very complex world and I believe that ultimately, we will be the voice of hope, the example that difficulties can be overcome if you allow people to speak their truth in freedom. Luck and prayers to ALL of us as we move forward into the future.
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Yes, it's this kind of mindset that's really bothering me.
Yup. If a person who supported McCain b/c they agreed with his policies mourns, I understand. Everyone wants their guy to win. BUT if it's a person who bought into the fear mongering. Wouldn't vote for a black man if he had a recommendation letter from Jesus. Who thinks all muslims are terrorist..well THEY can go kick rocks.

AS for the Bush Years, and people being irked, I think it's b/c they felt the election was shady. Then complete shock when he was elected again. (I knew THAT was going to happen after 9/11)
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Yes, I think you are entitled to a mourning period. I would have been just as disappointed had Obama lost.
Me too. Kerry was not a good candidate in 2004, but I did the mourning period too.
In 2004, I did too, but I didn't get into the dramatic "God Help Us all" garbage and I was pretty quiet about my feelings. I was in a right leaning office and I certainly remember the gloating that took place. Because I remember how that felt, I am not gloating. This morning our office (different workplace, but the defense industry is a heavily right leaning field for obvious reasons) is eerily quiet.

I honestly hope we are a more unified country after Obama takes office. I don't want anymore "Us and them" politics.
ITA. I think both candidates spoke to that, to making government by and for the people, and not all this partisan bs. I do hope we can all come together and going forward from yesterday, put this country back on track.
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Yes, it's this kind of mindset that's really bothering me.
Yup. If a person who supported McCain b/c they agreed with his policies mourns, I understand. Everyone wants their guy to win. BUT if it's a person who bought into the fear mongering. Wouldn't vote for a black man if he had a recommendation letter from Jesus. Who thinks all muslims are terrorist..well THEY can go kick rocks.
And I might just have to tell relatives, friends & in-laws they can kick rocks, or better yet suck them or shove them where the sun doesn't shine, if they send me one more e-mail.
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