Obama thinks Iraq and Afghanistan speak same language!

Then let's impeach him! Oh my goodness! Batten down the hatches - grab your babies! Run for the hills....run!!!!!
Originally Posted by Myradella3
Never said anything about that. But turnabout is fair play. You cannot tar and feather one candidate while giving the other a pass and excuses for gaffe. You cannot be blind to one person's faults and completely belittle the other person simply because you don't like them.

Now I am not too happy with those links of Obama either and would not have put them up. But just getting tired of such hate for one person who has a special needs child, hunts and may not be as cool and hip as the rest of us. She lost the election and many are happy. Leave her alone and let her go home with her family.

Can you imagine what it must be like to be publically humiliated all the time? She is human and I doubt it feels good. But she shows a smile and backbone when you see her and I have to admire her for that.
Originally Posted by rosario143
Have you done a search on these boards to see that the 57-state issue was discussed? I think there was a 10-page thread just on someone sharing her disgust with Obama (Notegal?). He's been criticized. But you know what? He won. He's the President-elect of the United States of America.

PS: With Palin, from whom are the negative comments coming lately?
[ But just getting tired of such hate for one person who has a special needs child, hunts and may not be as cool and hip as the rest of us. She lost the election and many are happy. Leave her alone and let her go home with her family.

Can you imagine what it must be like to be publically humiliated all the time? She is human and I doubt it feels good. But she shows a smile and backbone when you see her and I have to admire her for that.
Originally Posted by rosario143

I'd have more sympathy for her if she hadn't been such a hate-stirrer when she was on the stump. She dealt in hate, so she shouldn't be surprised when it comes back at her.
Rosario, I appreciate your post but don't think you can win. Obama has a free pass for the next 4 years and will never be held accountable for anything he says or does from now on. Sadly, being a media darling means you don't have to defend words or actions.
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Rosario, I appreciate your post but don't think you can win. Obama has a free pass for the next 4 years and will never be held accountable for anything he says or does from now on. Sadly, being a media darling means you don't have to defend words or actions.
Originally Posted by NYCurlyGirly

Oh the martyr...

Obama doesn't have a free pass. The press will hold his feet to the fire, and, in fact, they already are, with his appointment of Rahm Emmanuel for chief of staff.
Thinking Iran is not a threat a threat and running for president of the U.S. is VERY important. Better be up on foreign policies and who our enemy are if you are to be commander in chief.

Also in one link I provided Obama clearly states on film his uncle liberated a Nazi concentration camp. Americans did not go into Aushwich. Russia did. Should he not know world history?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXGgQ...eature=related


His parents met in Salma Alabama at a march and this is why he was born. But Samla happened in 1965. Obama was born in 61. Should he not know that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=95KC7CF5B9E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdYByptC8mY
Um, it's Selma, Alabama, not Salma (as in Hayek).
Also, isn't deciding whether a country is a threat a matter of opinion or policy? It's not a fact, like the fact that Africa is a continent.
Um, it's Selma, Alabama, not Salma (as in Hayek).
Originally Posted by ursula
Oops,sorry for the misspell. But at least it's not as bad as going there and talking about how my parents met there and I was born as a result of that mach . But march was 1965 and he was born in 1961!

But again he gets a pass and the only thing focussed on is I misspelled. Ok.
Rosario, I appreciate your post but don't think you can win. Obama has a free pass for the next 4 years and will never be held accountable for anything he says or does from now on. Sadly, being a media darling means you don't have to defend words or actions.
Originally Posted by NYCurlyGirly

Oh the martyr...

Obama doesn't have a free pass. The press will hold his feet to the fire, and, in fact, they already are, with his appointment of Rahm Emmanuel for chief of staff.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Oh I hope you are right!! I hadn't seen enough of the
Rham stuff yet to come to that conclusion but I hope i'm proven wrong.
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Also, isn't deciding whether a country is a threat a matter of opinion or policy? It's not a fact, like the fact that Africa is a continent.
Originally Posted by ursula
Fact: Americans did not go to Aushwich to rescue people in concentration camps.

Fact: Selma march happened in 1965 not 1961.

Should Obama not have known these facts before he spoke about them?
I listened to the speech. We mentioned many events rangin from the 50's to the 60's. Creating a time of change. So when he said "I am here b/c of Selma" I didn't take it as "I was concieved" I took it as people fought for his right to make it to the level he is today.


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I listened to the speech. We mentioned many events rangin from the 50's to the 60's. Creating a time of change. So when he said "I am here b/c of Selma" I didn't take it as "I was concieved" I took it as people fought for his right to make it to the level he is today.
Originally Posted by Trenell
Yeah, I listened to it, too, and had the same reaction. It was clear (to me, at least) that he was talking in an abstract and oratorical way about a cultural shift or movement--"something brewing"--not a specific event. He doesn't say anywhere that his parents met at Selma.
Fact: Americans did not go to Aushwich to rescue people in concentration camps.

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Originally Posted by rosario143
He admitted to that gaffe. His uncle was involved in the liberation of Buchenwald


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He said . "Some folks were willing to march across a bridge". "they got together and Barack Obama jr was born". "Don't tell me I don't have a claim to Selma Alabama. I'm here because somebody marched". march was in 1965. But Obama was born in 1961.
He didn't say "I'm here on this planet because of Selma," He said he was here, at the station and stage of life that he was, because of Selma (and other events like it).
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Joe Biden is our Vice President. He knows that Africa is a continent and probably what languages are spoken by each sect in the ME. He is an expert in foreign affairs. Our country gained respect all over the world when Obama/Biden won on Tuesday. The only foreign groups that wanted McCain/Palin were the terrorists. Fear and war is good for their business.

Everyone that speaks in the public in a high profile manner will make some faux pas, however, it became increasingly clear as Palin was allowed to speak that she wasn't VP material. Her idea that she has foreign policy experience because she can see Russia and she didn't know Africa is a continent. Not to mention her problems in Alaska.

I think Obama is going to be closely scrutinized by many, especially the closet racists. For the racists out there, he's half white. He represents all of us. I can't think of a better person to represent "us" as a country. He's taking office at a time when our country is in the worse shape that it has been in my lifetime. Thank God that someone with his intelligence, background and connections wants the job.

Did you who are already picking on Obama vote for Bush twice? If you did you should be focusing your energy on you and why you would make such a bad decision two times. Especially the second time when all the writing was on the wall. Are you that blind to your party?

I've never been to Selma (or Salma). Is there only one bridge and was there only march?
He said . "Some folks were willing to march across a bridge". "they got together and Barack Obama jr was born". "Don't tell me I don't have a claim to Selma Alabama. I'm here because somebody marched". march was in 1965. But Obama was born in 1961.
Originally Posted by rosario143
The way I understand this is that people marched in Selma for civil rights and that includes the right for interracial relationships. His parents may not have literally marched across the bridge, but the march was a huge turning point for civil rights. Crossing the bridge is a metaphor to me that his parents were willing to meet and to have a relationship in a time when black men and white women didn't make a habit of having relationships.

From your quote...he said "...Somebody marched.", he did not say his parents marched.
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I think you just want to find something to throw at Obama. You don't sound very rational or open for that matter.

Just curious, am I the only one who didn't agree with Obama being compared to Palin? Maybe in the light of Palin taking over office b/c of McCain's age, but they were running for 2 different positions. I think comparing the two is a bit like comparing apples to oranges. Other than the fact that they're both fruit/politicians running for national office... I didn't see anyone comparing McCain to Joe Biden on foreign policy. No, they respected McCain and compared him to his opponent tit for tat. But with Obama, it's okay to compare him to the subordinate. I dunno... but it just doesn't sit well. Don't use Palin as a reason to cross examine Obama. Use Palin as a reason to examine McCain, since he picked her and all. Who's giving McCain flack... no one... hmmmm.... Looks like Obama and Palin are the scape goats of this election.
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Yeah, that Selma march example is a lame one to throw at Obama...it takes a little abstract thinking to know what he really meant.

I do think people were more harsh on Sarah Palin because she is female. I wanted to give her a chance, I really did. I thought it would be great to have a female VP. But the more she talked, the less I liked her. And then when they tried to keep her away from the media, even less so that I liked the idea of her being VP. She made some stupid remarks, as we all have. She isn't generally a stupid person. She is a governor and she graduated from college. I'm assuming she's above average intelligence...but still not smart enough in my mind to be VP. She wasn't ready. She focused on two or three issues, kept repeating them even if the question was about something else, and just was ill prepared. Some of that is because she just isn't ready and the other reason is that they did not prepare her well enough. She wasn't well vetted. Had McCain picked Kay Bailey Hutchison or another female republican senator...his campaign would've done much better.
I wish Sarah Palin well. I don't hate her. She sounds like a dynamic person. She's probably a great friend and mother. I don't assume the worst in her...but I have to agree with the others that she was not ready to become VP (and possible president, due to McCain's health problems).

I hope the media is tough on Obama. I really do. I look forward to having him serve as our president, but I don't think he should get a free pass as well. As just so you know, the media also consists of Fox News and all those syndicated talk show radio programs, which are very conservative. The media isn't all "liberal." And from what I witnessed, Obama didn't get a free pass during his campaign...thanks to O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc.
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