He got what he wanted, does he ever stop the whining?

Ok, I'm *almost* going to agree with Susan here.

The media is really overdoing the whole "See!! He's just like us!!" angle to all the Obama and family stories. I like him, I voted for him, I'm very happy he's president. But I prefer not to know every mundane detail of his life and his transition to power.

A president should retain a little mystique about him.

**ducks and runs**
Originally Posted by mad scientist
Oh I agree. I think the 2 days of gushing over the "mutt like me" comment was ridiculous. "Ohhhh, he's comfortable with his race, that's what THAT means!" said the press. Well, duh, I would hope he would be at his age. I guess I'd better duck along with you.
Ok, I'm *almost* going to agree with Susan here.

The media is really overdoing the whole "See!! He's just like us!!" angle to all the Obama and family stories. I like him, I voted for him, I'm very happy he's president. But I prefer not to know every mundane detail of his life and his transition to power.

A president should retain a little mystique about him.

**ducks and runs**
Originally Posted by mad scientist
Oh I agree. I think the 2 days of gushing over the "mutt like me" comment was ridiculous. "Ohhhh, he's comfortable with his race, that's what THAT means!" said the press. Well, duh, I would hope he would be at his age. I guess I'd better duck along with you.
Originally Posted by gemini
It makes sense. I'd hate to see him get so overexposed that there is a backlash because we get tired of seeing him. Overexposure happens, especially with him being the first non-white President-elect. I'm not sure how to reduce that other than we the media consumers voicing our opinions.

As for the OP, I'd be frustrated by the huge lifestyle changes. Most people would, even though we all know (intellectually if not by experience) what comes with it. It can be a hard transition.
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To the OP, I think Obama's comments and complaints are more publicized in this case because we have a "first" elected to the highest office in the country; everything is getting more attention and documentation than usual. I would think his adjustments are not any different or excessive than anyone else who won a presidential election and realizing the burdens it places on their loved ones. Their lives will never be the same.
[it would be so much worse if you were on the detail of the first biracial POTUS and he was shot and/or killed....
Originally Posted by susancnw
Doesn't Obama identify himself as black?


It's funny. There are some that held on tightly to the one-drop rule (one DROP of black blood=you're black) and not in a warm fuzzy sort of way. NOW that Obama has been elected president these same people are all enlightened and calling him "biracial" (Damned if they are going to have a BLACK president)
Originally Posted by Trenell
i agree. and here is an article proving your sentiment.



(page 1)
He's Not Black

He is also half white.
Unless the one-drop rule still applies, our president-elect is not black.

We call him that -- he calls himself that -- because we use dated language and logic. After more than 300 years and much difficult history, we hew to the old racist rule: Part-black is all black. Fifty percent equals a hundred. There's no in-between.
That was my reaction when I read these words on the front page of this newspaper the day after the election: "Obama Makes History: U.S. Decisively Elects First Black President."

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(page3)
In other words, the color of a president-elect's skin doesn't tell you much. It's an unreliable marker, a deceptive form of packaging. Isn't it time we stopped using labels that validate the separation of races? Isn't it time for the language to move on?
he rambles on about this for 3 pages. if you have time to read it all, which i did. here is the link.


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Originally Posted by Myradella3
that power button can be tricky sometimes.

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ah yes, i hope my hate stations will be safe. because i'm just an evil, evil person who hates babies, eats kittens, and opposes love and peace. like all conservatives are, right?

no but seriously..
whining? we'll mock and argue, but whining isn't the same. whining is a liberal sport.
Originally Posted by myoctober

The bolded sounds suspiciously like "whining" to me. Poor you, so put upon for your conservative beliefs that you feel you must put on your best martyr tone. Next thing you know, those damn liberals will make a war on christmas and you can whine about that.
And it will be a LOT harder if anything were to happen to Obama. The agents that were on Reagan's detail the day he was shot have told stories of their personal nightmares, PTSD, etc since they couldn't protect him and he was shot. And you still hear stories of the agents for JFK, RFK, etc., what they went through...and I imagine it would be so much worse if you were on the detail of the first biracial POTUS and he was shot and/or killed...it would be absolutely horrifying. These men and women put their lives on the line on a daily basis and are expected/expect to take a bullet for him...and he's unhappy because he can't have his blackberry and he has to have an escort and an armored vehicle. I'm sure that his neighbors are thrilled by it all.
This is their job, it is what they are trained for. They are some of the most highly trained and capable professionals in the country. And why would it be worse if it were Obama? A dead President is a dead President.

Oh wait, I forgot. It's your post, Susancnw....Never mind. As you were. Go back to your whining, bigotry, and bitterness.
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[it would be so much worse if you were on the detail of the first biracial POTUS and he was shot and/or killed....
Originally Posted by susancnw
Doesn't Obama identify himself as black?


It's funny. There are some that held on tightly to the one-drop rule (one DROP of black blood=you're black) and not in a warm fuzzy sort of way. NOW that Obama has been elected president these same people are all enlightened and calling him "biracial" (Damned if they are going to have a BLACK president)
Originally Posted by Trenell
Boy, damned if I do, damned if I don't. How about if I refer to him as green? And depending on what paper you read, they all refer to him differently. Should I use the references from the Kenyan papers and call him the first Kenyan president? His mother was Caucasian, his father is Kenya. I'm trying to be accurate here. As far as the one drop black goes, I fall into that category and I guess I should start referring to myself as black. I never 'got' that 'rule' and thought it was incredibly stupid from the first time I heard it in jr. high in history class. My opinion on it has not changed.

I'm not 'worked' up about it. You've not seen me 'worked up' and it's not pretty. I've got better things to do. I just find it interesting what the media chooses to focus on. Ever president goes from having reasonably easy access to people and things and then go into a more circumscribed orbit, but we didn't see volumes of letters about their adjustment, etc. What makes him so special? Other families have moved into the WH from family homes and we didn't hear that much about it. Amy Carter, Chelsea Clinton, etc. The Kennedy kids were little, and the press was just as enamored of him as they are the Obamas.

I'm finding the press coverage fascinating on how they slant it. And no, I don't watch the news on any channel, period. I stopped during the 2004 campaign. As I said, I read, a lot...all sorts of papers all over the world and the nation so I get a lot of perspectives.

SBB - and yeah, a dead president is still dead. But these men and women have been chosen to protect the first purple president. What an incredible honor, and I think the circumstances would be worse simply because even more eyes and fingers would point, along with accusations of racism, bigotry, etc.

And my God, inability for libs here to understand sarcasm, irony, etc is absolutely incredible. Patience, thanks for the link. She said what I wanted to so much more eloquently. I love this bit from it--context is that she is Hispanic and was referring definitively to Latinos.

"But since 2000, when it became possible for a citizen to register in more than one racial category, many of us began checking them all: indigenous, white, Asian, African. It would be false to do otherwise. "Todo plátano tiene su manchita negra," as we say. Every banana has its little bit of black."

When I saw that for the first time, I did think, wow, I'm covered completely...although I'm not sure about the Asian as I've never had a comprehensive DNA test done, but, like her, from family stories and pics.

But again, it gets dragged back around to the proclamation that I am a bigot when I'm just tired of hearing about the intimate details of dealing with becoming the president. He's not doing anything that previous presidents haven't done...so do we have to have a big pity party for him and his family? And can the media just go away?

It was easier to find information on what he's dealing with emotionally than it was to find info on what was going on in Mumbai for 5 days...I've got friends over there that I was worried about...and internet wasn't that great....everyone that I used to know in Chicago is safe..
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[it would be so much worse if you were on the detail of the first biracial POTUS and he was shot and/or killed....
Originally Posted by susancnw
Doesn't Obama identify himself as black?


It's funny. There are some that held on tightly to the one-drop rule (one DROP of black blood=you're black) and not in a warm fuzzy sort of way. NOW that Obama has been elected president these same people are all enlightened and calling him "biracial" (Damned if they are going to have a BLACK president)
Originally Posted by Trenell
Boy, damned if I do, damned if I don't. How about if I refer to him as green?
Originally Posted by susancnw

mmmmm no. I just feel that if HE identifies himself as black then people should respect that.


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Ok, I'm *almost* going to agree with Susan here.

The media is really overdoing the whole "See!! He's just like us!!" angle to all the Obama and family stories. I like him, I voted for him, I'm very happy he's president. But I prefer not to know every mundane detail of his life and his transition to power.

A president should retain a little mystique about him.

**ducks and runs**
Originally Posted by mad scientist

Haha. I disagree. I think it's cool. But yea I do think the media is overdoing it but it's because people are really interested in him..almost like a 'celebrity' .

Boy, damned if I do, damned if I don't. How about if I refer to him as green?
Originally Posted by susancnw
How about not referring to his race at all? I know that in another post you said you were bothered by his racial identification and this post makes it clear that you're still bothered. If you're upset about him complaining about a lack of privacy and tight security, what in the world does that have to do with race or color? Would the statement about JFK's assassination been stronger had you said the first Catholic president? Or that Reagan was the oldest? Seems to me that people who bring up race when it is totally irrelevant to the topic have some kind of hang-up somewhere along the line.
hmmm... I'm confused

Is this post about the "media" or Obama? It seems like the media is blowing everything up. They are bored.

As far as the man, why are you blaming him for the way the press is covering him? I think most people in his situation have had to re-think their lives upon election. Just because you didn't hear about or read about it in the press doesn't mean it didn't cross their minds. With this 24 hour news cycle, reporters are trying to keep things poppin'

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As far as the man, why are you blaming him for the way the press is covering him?
Originally Posted by wavezncurlz


Silly...everyone knows the liberal mainstream media is in Obama's pocket. They only report what he tells them to...

As far as the man, why are you blaming him for the way the press is covering him?
Originally Posted by wavezncurlz



Silly...everyone knows the liberal mainstream media is in Obama's pocket. They only report what he tells them to...

Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Oh yeah, I forgot about the MSM. They are Obamatrons and part of the so-called Obama-nation. They drank the kool-aid...

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Originally Posted by curlyarca
very fitting.


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As far as the man, why are you blaming him for the way the press is covering him?
Originally Posted by wavezncurlz



Silly...everyone knows the liberal mainstream media is in Obama's pocket. They only report what he tells them to...

Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Oh yeah, I forgot about the MSM. They are Obamatrons and part of the so-called Obama-nation. They drank the kool-aid...
Originally Posted by wavezncurlz


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Originally Posted by curlyarca
very fitting.
Originally Posted by .patience.
Help me out - can someone explain this reference. I googled the song but I'm still lost.

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Originally Posted by curlyarca
very fitting.
Originally Posted by .patience.
Help me out - can someone explain this reference. I googled the song but I'm still lost.
Originally Posted by wavezncurlz
the chorus.."everything's gonna be alright, rockabye"


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How about if I refer to him as green?
Originally Posted by susancnw
A green president would be kick-a@@ (and I don't mean green as in environmental, I mean green like a Vulcan)! Sorry, I'll leave now and get something on my stomach besides Tic-Tacs and coffee.
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