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Old 12-02-2008, 02:59 PM   #41
 
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hmmm... I'm confused

Is this post about the "media" or Obama? It seems like the media is blowing everything up. They are bored.

As far as the man, why are you blaming him for the way the press is covering him? I think most people in his situation have had to re-think their lives upon election. Just because you didn't hear about or read about it in the press doesn't mean it didn't cross their minds. With this 24 hour news cycle, reporters are trying to keep things poppin'
ITA with it all. This is silly to say "Obama is whining." NO, it's the press following him around like he's a celebrity.
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very fitting.
Help me out - can someone explain this reference. I googled the song but I'm still lost.
the chorus.."everything's gonna be alright, rockabye"
thanks Patience. I'm a bit sleep deprived.
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How about not referring to his race at all? I know that in another post you said you were bothered by his racial identification and this post makes it clear that you're still bothered. I'm not bothered. I actually would like to be accurate. He didn't 'self-identify' as black until HS or college (HS I think), so I wanted to figure it out and be accurate. It wasn't a complaint, it was an honest question. I'm not allowed those either apparently.

If you're upset about him complaining about a lack of privacy and tight security, what in the world does that have to do with race or color? Would the statement about JFK's assassination been stronger had you said the first Catholic president? Or that Reagan was the oldest? Seems to me that people who bring up race when it is totally irrelevant to the topic have some kind of hang-up somewhere along the line.
Race is relevant because he IS the first green president. Last week we had a nutcase from Hawai'i threatening to kill him because he thought he was the AntiChrist (oh for heaven's sake). Some moron about 35 miles from here was threatening to kill him during the DNC - and because of comments of both men, race IS relevant.
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[it would be so much worse if you were on the detail of the first biracial POTUS and he was shot and/or killed....
Doesn't Obama identify himself as black?


It's funny. There are some that held on tightly to the one-drop rule (one DROP of black blood=you're black) and not in a warm fuzzy sort of way. NOW that Obama has been elected president these same people are all enlightened and calling him "biracial" (Damned if they are going to have a BLACK president)
Boy, damned if I do, damned if I don't. How about if I refer to him as green? And depending on what paper you read, they all refer to him differently. Should I use the references from the Kenyan papers and call him the first Kenyan president? His mother was Caucasian, his father is Kenya. I'm trying to be accurate here. As far as the one drop black goes, I fall into that category and I guess I should start referring to myself as black. I never 'got' that 'rule' and thought it was incredibly stupid from the first time I heard it in jr. high in history class. My opinion on it has not changed.

I'm not 'worked' up about it. You've not seen me 'worked up' and it's not pretty. I've got better things to do. I just find it interesting what the media chooses to focus on. Ever president goes from having reasonably easy access to people and things and then go into a more circumscribed orbit, but we didn't see volumes of letters about their adjustment, etc. What makes him so special? Other families have moved into the WH from family homes and we didn't hear that much about it. Amy Carter, Chelsea Clinton, etc. The Kennedy kids were little, and the press was just as enamored of him as they are the Obamas.

I'm finding the press coverage fascinating on how they slant it. And no, I don't watch the news on any channel, period. I stopped during the 2004 campaign. As I said, I read, a lot...all sorts of papers all over the world and the nation so I get a lot of perspectives.

SBB - and yeah, a dead president is still dead. But these men and women have been chosen to protect the first purple president. What an incredible honor, and I think the circumstances would be worse simply because even more eyes and fingers would point, along with accusations of racism, bigotry, etc.

And my God, inability for libs here to understand sarcasm, irony, etc is absolutely incredible. Patience, thanks for the link. She said what I wanted to so much more eloquently. I love this bit from it--context is that she is Hispanic and was referring definitively to Latinos.

"But since 2000, when it became possible for a citizen to register in more than one racial category, many of us began checking them all: indigenous, white, Asian, African. It would be false to do otherwise. "Todo plátano tiene su manchita negra," as we say. Every banana has its little bit of black."

When I saw that for the first time, I did think, wow, I'm covered completely...although I'm not sure about the Asian as I've never had a comprehensive DNA test done, but, like her, from family stories and pics.

But again, it gets dragged back around to the proclamation that I am a bigot when I'm just tired of hearing about the intimate details of dealing with becoming the president. He's not doing anything that previous presidents haven't done...so do we have to have a big pity party for him and his family? And can the media just go away?

It was easier to find information on what he's dealing with emotionally than it was to find info on what was going on in Mumbai for 5 days...I've got friends over there that I was worried about...and internet wasn't that great....everyone that I used to know in Chicago is safe..
Really? I am curious... where does your Black blood come from? A parent, grandparent?
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As far as the one drop black goes, I fall into that category and I guess I should start referring to myself as black.
I think I sense a trend: White people coming out as black. Or those passing or children of those who passed, coming out of the closet so to speak, a la Bliss Broyard .There will be a reality show "Guess Who's Black?"
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As far as the one drop black goes, I fall into that category and I guess I should start referring to myself as black.
I think I sense a trend: White people coming out as black. Or those passing or children of those who passed, coming out of the closet so to speak, a la Bliss Broyard .There will be a reality show "Guess Who's Black?"
That is hilarious, "Guess Who's Black"! That's definitely a show for VH1! Right before "Charm School" and after "Celeb Rehab". Next thing ya know there will be a scholarship foundation devoted to one-dropees. A whole dang movement....
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As far as the one drop black goes, I fall into that category and I guess I should start referring to myself as black.
I think I sense a trend: White people coming out as black. Or those passing or children of those who passed, coming out of the closet so to speak, a la Bliss Broyard .There will be a reality show "Guess Who's Black?"
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.....a la Bliss Broyard .
I never heard of her before. This was so interesting.

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I never heard of her before. This was so interesting.

Bliss Broyard
Your link doesn't work, but I googled her. Fascinating story.
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Thanks! I fixed it. I think I'll check out her book from the library. These kind of stories fascinate me.
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Yes, and angering.
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I don't know why the term "Biracial" annoys me so much. I think it's because it doesn't mean anything, it's just this weird third term that denies a person of claiming any heredity. My mother is white and my father is Indian (India) and I've never considered myself biracial. I've never even heard the term until I watched a Montel Williams talkshow, ha ha.

I HATE when people now say, Obama isn't our first black president. He's BIRACIAL. What the hell does that mean? Now that's he's been elected he's not black anymore?

Susan you are just kind of being arrogant. Why are you trying to deny that Barack Obama is black? Why is it so important to you to make such a big deal about it?
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I think it's because it doesn't mean anything, it's just this weird third term that denies a person of claiming any heredity.
It annoys me too. It is so vague to say "biracial" and that just seems like yet another bucket to plunk people into, regardless of their specific ethnic or racial background.

I never use the term to describe myself. I say "mixed" or "black" and get into specifics if it naturally comes up in conversation. There is just no way to categorize individuals as a whole, no matter how much society seems to want to do just that.
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I never heard of her before. This was so interesting.

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Your link doesn't work, but I googled her. Fascinating story.
You may want to check out this book as well--these kinds of stories astound me.
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You can *be* biracial, but the point is that you're most likely going to be treated based on the way you look. People are going to percieve you as black, white, hispanic, based on your skin color - so as far as I'm concerned, we have a black president.

Yes, he may be biracial, but most people percieve him as black, because of his appearance - and although he appears black, he is still our president.

If he were as white as the driven snow, yet biracial, then we could go around making ourselves feel as if we've evolved, and say we've elected a biracial man into office - but since, to the majority of people, he looks black, lets give the man some credit for getting where he is in life. He is the first black president.
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If he were as white as the driven snow, yet biracial, then we could go around making ourselves feel as if we've evolved, and say we've elected a biracial man into office - but since, to the majority of people, he looks black, lets give the man some credit for getting where he is in life. He is the first black president.
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You can *be* biracial, but the point is that you're most likely going to be treated based on the way you look. People are going to percieve you as black, white, hispanic, based on your skin color - so as far as I'm concerned, we have a black president.

Yes, he may be biracial, but most people percieve him as black, because of his appearance - and although he appears black, he is still our president.

If he were as white as the driven snow, yet biracial, then we could go around making ourselves feel as if we've evolved, and say we've elected a biracial man into office - but since, to the majority of people, he looks black, lets give the man some credit for getting where he is in life. He is the first black president.
I agree.
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I don't know why the term "Biracial" annoys me so much. I think it's because it doesn't mean anything, it's just this weird third term that denies a person of claiming any heredity. My mother is white and my father is Indian (India) and I've never considered myself biracial. I've never even heard the term until I watched a Montel Williams talkshow, ha ha.

I HATE when people now say, Obama isn't our first black president. He's BIRACIAL. What the hell does that mean? Now that's he's been elected he's not black anymore?

Susan you are just kind of being arrogant. Why are you trying to deny that Barack Obama is black? Why is it so important to you to make such a big deal about it?
You aren't paying attention. He's green.
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