$150 million for Inaugural Ball?!

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More than 4 times as much as any other IB in history. Now, don't get me wrong here - I think this is an historic event just like everyone else, but when I heard this my reaction was WTF?! In this current economic situation with so many people struggling, losing jobs, homes, etc. that seemed extremely extravagant to me. Now I get to go do my taxes - at least I know somebody had a kick-ass party on my dime.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28707475/

I'll stay hopeful though, he has nowhere to take us but up. I hope he helps put money back into the pockets of the individuals and small businesses instead of the banks and big corporations that screwed us all over to begin with.
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Last edited by AprilnUtah; 01-20-2009 at 10:15 AM.
Taxpayers pay for security and the swearing in ceremony. The party stuff, donations.

I also found this

In a nod to tough times, the inaugural committee is not accepting donations of more than $50,000 — a big drop from the $250,000 set by President Bush four years ago.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...ama-tone_N.htm


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Taxpayers pay for security and the swearing in ceremony. The party stuff, donations.

I also found this

In a nod to tough times, the inaugural committee is not accepting donations of more than $50,000 — a big drop from the $250,000 set by President Bush four years ago.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...ama-tone_N.htm
Originally Posted by Trenell
The news article says that the committee raised $41 million of that, the rest is paid with taxpayer dollars - so $109 million - still a high bill.
People that can afford to "donate" $50k or $250k are not the ones hurting like the rest of the population, so that doesn't really matter IMO.
I'm just surprised by this, and even more surprised that everybody else is overlooking it.
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I think it's in keeping with the number of people who worked for this moment, and want to be involved in it. No inauguration has been as landmark as this one, and that has to be reflected in inclusion, security, etc.

ETA Why do you assume people are overlooking it, rather than realizing that other people see it differently than you do?
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ETA Why do you assume people are overlooking it, rather than realizing that other people see it differently than you do?
Originally Posted by MichelleBFT
Simply because it hasn't been commented on - either in support of or against. I'm sure everybody sees it from their own perspective, that is why I started this thread.
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Last edited by AprilnUtah; 01-20-2009 at 10:58 AM.
The Ball isn't $150 million; the entire event (multiple days) is. People in DC aren't made as it's pumping up their economy.
I agree it's an outrageous amount of money to be spent at this time. I have no idea on what could have, should have been done instead, but dang........that's a lot of money for a celebration.
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The media is playing games. I did a bit of research. Obama's COMBINED estimated cost (Gala, security, etc) $150 millionish. The $42 million they are comparing with Bush does not include security. I think with proper math, and the fact that MORE people showed up for Bush's goodbye party, the cost comes in about the same.


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However, buried in a recent New York Times article published one week before the controversy erupted over the cost of Obama's inauguration, the newspaper reported that in 2005, "the federal government and the District of Columbia spent a combined $115.5 million, most of it for security, the swearing-in ceremony, cleanup and for a holiday for federal workers" [emphasis added].
You read that correctly. The federal government spent $115 million dollars for the 2005 inauguration. Keep in mind, that $115 million price tag was separate from the money Bush backers bundled to put on the inauguration festivities. For that, they raised $42 million. So the bottom line for Bush's 2005 inauguration, including the cost of security? That's right, $157 million.
Unless the Obama inauguration tab (including security) ends up costing $630 million, we can safely say it certainly won't cost four times what the Bush bash did in 2005. And unless the Obama inauguration tab (including security) runs to $257 million, we can safely say the event won't cost $100 million more than Bush's, as Fox & Friends claimed.
http://mediamatters.org/columns/200901170003


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That amount of money should never be spent on a new Presidents celebration - at least not tax payer money. I'm just shocked. I assume it started back in the day before we were a gazillion $ in debt. This isn't about Obama / Bush, or anyone - the whole thing. It wouldn't matter to me if it was Obama, McCain or Clinton.

I really hope the next 4 or 8 years brings about serious Govt. spending changes.
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Last edited by 2happy; 01-20-2009 at 11:14 AM.
That amount of money should never be spent on a new Presidents celebration - at least not tax payer money. I'm just shocked. I assume it started back in the day before we were a gazillion $ in debt. This isn't about Obama / Bush, or anyone - the whole thing.

I really hope the next 4 or 8 years brings about serious Govt. spending changes.
Originally Posted by 2happy
That is exactly how I feel about it.
Although I have to admit that it pisses me off even more to know that Bush spent that much too. Crazy.

Trenell,
Thanks for exposing the media spin on it. IMO the media = bull***** 99% of the time.
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Last edited by AprilnUtah; 01-20-2009 at 11:23 AM.
Last I saw about 15 min ago...it's $170---probably never know the whole thing. Donations paying for about $50M maybe...we're footing the rest.

And no, it's been talked about very, very little, esp compared with the outrage Pelosi, Reid, et all voiced.

Whatever happened to an intimate little family affair? Family, close friends, etc. ;D
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Personally, I feel the President should be inaugurated with full pomp and circumstance, no matter how popular or not. Should they have a budget? Yes, but with the popularity of this particular inauguration and the increased security needs necessitated by the sheer volume of people the costs are going to be more so budget over runs are inevitable.

There are things I don't think they should have done like an entire fleet of new cars, unless it was truly necessary (I did hear that they take a lot of wear and tear due to the heavy armor and the nature of the roads, potholes are rough on them.)
A lot of these things are tradition, accorded to each president when they assume office.

I think it should be a big event, bigger than the Superbowl. And yes I know, we don't pay for the superbowl, but they also don't charge upwards of $250 per ticket to see the inauguration. Personally I think all those people who scalped their FREE tickets to it should have to donate that money to the committee.
They will also still continue to accept donation to defray the costs just like they did after the conventions.
I don't care if the money is for inaugural balls, redecorating the white house, etc., & for whomever, it's always too much money.
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That cost includes EVERYTHING, from my understanding. Not just A ball. Yup, it's alot of money. But considering how much planning is involved, security detail, cleanup(and trust me there's ALOT...folks totally left downtown DC a mess) etc., etc., I'm not THAT surprised. Bush's inauguration only garnered 300,000-400,000 people. Not the estimated 1.5-2 million that Obama had. Handling the influx of folks is costly. Shutting down major thoroughfares is costly. The costs incurred by Maryland and Virginia are covered in that $170 million(I believe, which will cost $75 million). As per CNN:

The security effort involved Secret Service agents; 8,000 police officers from the District of Columbia and other jurisdictions; 10,000 National Guardsmen; about 1,000 FBI personnel; and hundreds of others from the Department of Homeland Security, the National Park Service and U.S. Capitol Police. Another 20,000 members of the National Guard were ready to respond if there was an emergency, said Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff.
It costs money to pay these folks[overtime], and to maintain order and keep folks safe. Where else would they get the money to pay them?

As per the Wall Street Journal:

Among the expenses: a Bruce Springsteen concert, the parade, large-screen TV rentals for all-free viewing on the national Mall, $700,000 to the Smithsonian Institution to stay open and, of course, the balls, including three that are being pitched as free or low cost for the public.
One of those balls were for the children and families of servicemen and women, and then another for the youth(ages 18-35). Yeah, we could have done without them, but they felt that everyone should be able to participate and attend.

And then there were functions spread across FOUR days. There was ALOT involved in that entire process, and it costs money.

In our economy, it IS rather exorbitant. That I DEFINITELY agree with. That money would be far more useful being used somewhere else. But it is what it is. When has an inauguration and subsequent parties/galas been "small"? Or NOT been expensive? Or quaint family-focused functions? How recent? Come on. LOL! I think the last president to have a small and inexpensive inauguration within the last century was Woodrow Wilson. But other than him, it has cost all presidents thereafter millions of dollars. And honestly, we've lost billions(an estimated 590 billion; 73 billion a year; $202 million dollars a day) from war over the last 8 years. I'm more concerned about that than anything.

The former president declared a "state of emergency" to secure some funds to handle alot of the costs for DC. Not sure if he had to, but it was done.

Honestly, all the extra I could do without. Just have the inauguration swearing in and parade, and leave it at that. But I think the historical significance had ALOT to do with the cost of Pres. Obama's inauguration, and subsequent celebrations. Not saying it's "right", and by no means rationalizing it, but again....it is what it is. Maybe we should try to get our congressmen and women to rally to cap the costs for inaugurations so that it doesn't costs the tax payer an obnoxious amount of money. Until then, it won't do much complaining about it.
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All that money spent and he couldn't drop in at the 50th anniversary of the Medal of Honor ball. Very sad.
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All that money spent and he couldn't drop in at the 50th anniversary of the Medal of Honor ball. Very sad.
Originally Posted by susancnw
Yeah. He was too busy rolling around in 170 million dollars.

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Has DC been paid yet? 'Cause Chicago is still owed a bunch of money.

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Has DC been paid yet? 'Cause Chicago is still owed a bunch of money.

http://www.rightnation.us/forums/ind...owtopic=151940
Originally Posted by susancnw

I suggest you familarize yourself with the FEMA polices and process...that will exsplain to you why most of the juristictions that were involved with the inaugural events have not recieved payment as of yet, since it was declared a Federal Disaster so that additional funds would be available. Specificly, check out 44 CFR 206, which is the section that deals with public assistance (which is what this would be funded under). Also here is a link to the FEMA public Assistance Guide, which gives some brief overview information about much of the public assistance program and how it is administered.

http://www.fema.gov/pdf/government/grant/pa/pdigest.pdf


Please note, that because they have not recieved payment as of yet, doesn't mean that they won't get payment, but there really isn't a way to fast track FEMA payment because of some of the Standford Act language.
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