Now he insults the disabled (Obama on Tonight Show) - Page 3

yogawaves · 03-22-2009, 04:37 AM

I have a mentally challenged sister who lives with me and I (we) get more upset when someone says "retard" or "that's retarded"
I think Obama put his foot in his mouth just like we all have at one time or another, but I'm really not offended. There's worse things he could of said. He should probably apologize though.

Meghuney · 03-22-2009, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by yogawaves

I have a mentally challenged sister who lives with me and I (we) get more upset when someone says "retard" or "that's retarded"
I think Obama put his foot in his mouth just like we all have at one time or another, but I'm really not offended. There's worse things he could of said. He should probably apologize though.

Exactly. I work for a non-profit that assists parents with children with disabilities. However, as I don't have a disability, I really don't have the right to say what is ok and what isn't....what is offensive and what isn't. He did apologize, though.

yogawaves · 03-22-2009, 02:14 PM

I didn't get a chance to watch the news lately, but, I heard today that he apologized.
Let's face it , we all put our foot in our mouths one time or another. I know I'm pretty good at it.

munchkin · 03-22-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by yogawaves

I didn't get a chance to watch the news lately, but, I heard today that he apologized.
Let's face it , we all put our foot in our mouths one time or another. I know I'm pretty good at it.

I'm a Republican and I agree. We all stick our foot in our mouths on occasion. This wasn't the worst thing he could have done, and he did immediately apologize.

On the other hand. . . the AIG bonuses and Timothy Geithner's appointment are another thing(s). Those he needs to be accountable for.

Scarlet · 03-23-2009, 04:34 PM

He's not going to cop to the AIG bonus fiasco!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123742426774379307.html

.patience. · 03-23-2009, 09:47 PM

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Meghuney
Seriously grow the hell up. Again it was 1:15 in the morning I'm sorry I messed up. People make mistakes I'm human it doesn't mean you need to come on here and make everyone who disagree with you or Obama feel like crap. I guess if that really makes you happy... you could have simply pointed out my mistake and asked what I was trying to get at so that I could say hey you're right I used the wrong word so that it would be clear what I was trying to say. It's sad that people like you cannot accept anyone who might disagree with you...

this fits the subject of this thread so well about how everyone is overreacting about Obama's comment.

how many long and sleepless nights do you think Obama and every other POTUS recieved, countless days of the week/month/year??? are they also not entitled to a mistake now and then? a misplaced or misused word? an off beat comment or joke?
is every POTUS above the status of being human and not being forgiven for making a mistake??
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he called the show before it aired to apologize when his mistake was pointed out. and he agrees that it may have offended some and didn't mean for it to be taken offensively.
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and i wholeheartedly agree with you...it is sad that people can't accept someone(Obama) who they might disagree with.

people need to stop being hypocrites.

3cCurly · 03-23-2009, 10:02 PM

a quote from The Truth Teller

"What people don't seem to realize is- EACH of these little "gaffes" reveals something about the INNER man, the one no one knows.
You don't make jokes about the disabled, unless you are insensitive toward them. You don't use words like "Typical white person..." unless you are racist at heart. And you DON'T giggle when talking about our economic mess, with millions struggling, banks failing, and once great corporations on the verge of bankruptcy.
When you are President of the United States, EVERYTHING you say and HOW you say it matters. Mr Obama doesn't seem to understand this very basic fact..."

Myradella3 · 03-24-2009, 05:03 AM

^^^^So Obama is racist, hates the disabled, and doesn't care about the economy?

xcptnl · 03-24-2009, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 3cCurly

This is serious! I'm really starting to think he is mentally challenged because every time he opens his mouth something dumb falls out. He needs a teleprompter, a ear piece, and some cue cards just keep his mind a float from wavering off into babbling buffoonery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BHyqtaECLI

I rest my case

Wow. To me that statement is as bad as what you think he said.

Scarlet · 03-24-2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Scarlet

James Carville (ironically), on the morning of 9/11/01:
"I certainly hope he doesn't succeed."

Democratic Pollster Stanley Greenberg:
"We rush into these focus groups with these doubts that people have about him, and I'm wanting them to turn against him"

Where was the outrage?

Anybody?

Myradella3 · 03-24-2009, 11:24 AM

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James Carville (ironically), on the morning of 9/11/01:
"I certainly hope he doesn't succeed."

Democratic Pollster Stanley Greenberg:
"We rush into these focus groups with these doubts that people have about him, and I'm wanting them to turn against him"

Where was the outrage?

Anybody?

I responded when this was initally posted. Were those comments appropriate? Was it the right thing for them to make such comments?

Trenell · 03-24-2009, 11:55 AM

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James Carville (ironically), on the morning of 9/11/01:
"I certainly hope he doesn't succeed."

?

Anybody?

I needed more info. Not succeed at what? So I did a bit of digging

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That’s the only relevant line from Carville Sammon quoted. Carville’s comments were made at a Christian Science Monitor breakfast on the morning of 9/11, before the attacks.
The Monitor’s Dave Cook, who runs the breakfasts, has audio of the event, and he transcribed the relevant comments and emailed them to me. Carville was asked if Bush was politically vulnerable. Carville replied:

People basically like this president as a person and they want him to succeed, but they have some pretty serious doubts that have not crept in but are sort of there. You have almost half the country saying he is in over his head. Over half the country saying he is for the powerful. And as much as I would like for it or wish for it, they are not going to pull away completely from him months into his administration.
I don’t care if people like him or not, just so they don’t vote for him and his party. That is all I care about. I hope he doesn’t succeed, but I am a partisan democrat. But the average person wants him to succeed. It is his country, his life or their lives. So he has that going for him. There is a lot that is going to happen between now and next November. It is not that people don’t like him. It is not that people don’t want him to succeed but it is also not that he doesn’t have some serious underlying problems.

It’s clear from that context that Carville was talking about his own desire for the President to fail politically, in terms of getting votes for himself and his party, not in policy terms. Carville went on to say that average Americans want him to succeed substantively, which he said was a political boon to Bush.
Cook wrote on

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/po...-bush-to-fail/

I'm not sure if it makes that much difference. But I find it odd that it took some looking to find this quote in it's context. I guess the one-liner sells more.

I understood Rush was saying pretty much the same thing. But Rush lives and longs for people to be outraged by him, and says things in a way to ensure that.

Scarlet · 03-24-2009, 02:51 PM

The redacted quote doesn't at all change what Carville said, and what the intent was Cook nicely tried to deflect it, but overall, the message was that he hoped Bush failed. Policy follows politics. If you fail politically, you cannot succeed in policy.

Myradella3 · 03-24-2009, 08:20 PM

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The redacted quote doesn't at all change what Carville said, and what the intent was Cook nicely tried to deflect it, but overall, the message was that he hoped Bush failed. Policy follows politics. If you fail politically, you cannot succeed in policy.

Was it appropriate that they made those comments? Anybody?

mailgirl · 03-26-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 3cCurly

a quote from The Truth Teller

"What people don't seem to realize is- EACH of these little "gaffes" reveals something about the INNER man, the one no one knows.
You don't make jokes about the disabled, unless you are insensitive toward them. You don't use words like "Typical white person..." unless you are racist at heart. And you DON'T giggle when talking about our economic mess, with millions struggling, banks failing, and once great corporations on the verge of bankruptcy.
When you are President of the United States, EVERYTHING you say and HOW you say it matters. Mr Obama doesn't seem to understand this very basic fact..."

I haven't been on the politics board in a long time. I came back today and I remember you.

snappynappy · 03-27-2009, 12:10 PM

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I am amused or saddened (I can't tell which yet) at the amount of JOY people have with this type of stuff. As if they sooooooooooo want him to fail or mess up. As if their utter hatred fuels their very being. I never wanted Bush to mess up. Wanting a president to fail is not very good for the country.

so true...this is one of the many reasons why i cant bring myself to be a republican. I just cant stomach blatant doucebaggery.

Scarlet · 03-27-2009, 01:26 PM

nm

Scarlet · 03-27-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Trenell

I am amused or saddened (I can't tell which yet) at the amount of JOY people have with this type of stuff. As if they sooooooooooo want him to fail or mess up. As if their utter hatred fuels their very being. I never wanted Bush to mess up. Wanting a president to fail is not very good for the country.

so true...this is one of the many reasons why i cant bring myself to be a republican. I just cant stomach blatant doucebaggery.

Yet with this comment, a douchebag is exactly what you're being.

Trenell · 03-27-2009, 02:07 PM

Douches can be found in every party.

Amandacurls · 03-28-2009, 12:28 AM

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I just heard a replay of the comment. I don't think it at all was intended to offend, but this is what happens when he speaks without a telepromter. What's interesting to me is that if it had been a Republican who said something like this (aside from calls for resignation, which, for the POTUS would be ludicrous), he/she would be required to make a heartfelt public mea culpa, give a substantial donation to the Special Olympics, and attend "sensitivity training". Yeah, none of that is going to happen.

Quick, send in Biden, he'll say something goofy about how Woodrow Wilson appeared on YouTube to comfort the public when the War of 1812 broke out and distract everyone! I don't think that Obama meant anything by the comment, I know I'd hate to have every word I said scrutinized, but it is rather lovely to see the PC police remaining silent on this when they'd be calling for drawing and quartering if someone with the wrong letter after his/her name said had said the same thing. Actually it's kind of comforting that it's so freaking predictable, a little stability in a crazy world!

Just wanted to point out, the bolded portion made me giggle!

Carry on!