Potty Training

Okay, so here's an update. We've done pretty good wearing underwear and peeing. We still refuse to poop on the potty and I think the more I push the issue...the worse it is. She is now constipated from holding her poop 2 or 3 days...then finally going at night with her pullup...so I'm going to back off. Let her tell me when she needs to poop...put a pull up on and then put her back in undies until I can get her regulated. I think if I can get pooping not to hurt...I may be able to get her on the toilet.

She eats applesauce, fruit, veggies...anything else I can giver her to help with consitpation? (poor girl has my issues that I battle with.) I read one doctor's response...to do the pull-up..do miralax to help soften everything up for 2 weeks...then slowly go off of it (another 2 weeks)...so they quit hurting while pooping...then go back to slowly work them on the potty. He suggests 1) have them poop in a pullup in the bathroom 2) step 1 while having potty lid open 3) have them poop in pull up while sitting down on floor in the bathroom 4) cut a hole in pull up and have them sit on potty with pull up on and pooping 5) remove pull-up and be good to go. Seems like a lot of steps...maybe it will work.

Any suggestions, I would be thankful for.
Originally Posted by inheritedcurls


I do not think that doctor's suggestions will work. Sounds more like "theory" to me. Kids, especially kids with constipation tendencies, will not be able to perform pooping on the bathroom floor or pooping through a hole. Sounds ridiculous to me.

I think daily intake of pro-biotics and yogur/kefir are the best cures for constipation. There is mounting evidence showing what we eat is not as important as we've been led to believe, but rather the good bacteria in our gut that govern our bowel function. People who lack the proper gut flora often have bowel difficulties. Where do we get our gut flora...maybe from our mothers, so maybe that's why constipation seems to run in families. More research needs to be done, but, in the meantime, get some good yogurt.
Applesauce is actually binding because of all the pectin, so I would back off that. Also maybe limit dairy (not eliminate it completely but cut down). Yes to yogurt and probiotics.

A warm bath always worked for my kids to get things moving. I would let them sit in the bath and relax, then put them on the toilet when they said they felt like they had to go. For my son I even put the little potty into the bathtub (with just a few inches of water).

I think your idea of backing off until she is not constipated and letting her go in a pullup is a good one. I suspect a lot of kids have trouble because they are used to pooping in the diaper/pullup while standing up and it is a tough transition to learn to do it sitting/squatting. So maybe once she is not constipated you can let her go in the pullup but encourage her to squat down when she does it. That may make the transition easier too.

Also, here is a good recipe for high fiber pumpkin bran muffins. It's for bread, but I make it in muffin or mini muffin tins. I also use whole wheat flour instead of AP and sometimes I use wheat bran instead of all bran cereal.
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Yeah RCW...I was thinking that was definitely a theory.

I do think sitting to poop is harder for her...she has always had to stand...when we weren't potty training she would ask to stand up if at a restaurant so she could go. I will try some yogurt...I was afraid the dairy would consitpate but I guess the probotics...wins over the dairy? Yo-Baby is hard to find around me... Is Activia okay for her to eat or too much sugar? What are some other brands?

Thanks for the recipe...I'll make those. I need the fiber as well.

I guess a trip to health food store...I can buy straight probotics for her...and sprinkle in her milk or food...maybe good too.

Thanks you guys! It's been 3 days since she poop'd so I'm hoping she will go today in her pull-up.
Also, I know it's horrible but if it gets to be like 3-4 days, think about some children's glycerine suppositories. They are awful but we had to use them with Ben and you want them to finally go, because the longer they don't, the harder the poop gets. You can ask your pediatrician.

Good luck. That was the hardest part of potty training with both kids for me.

They do make kids' chewable probiotic tablets.
To Trenell, MizKerri and geeky:
I pray none of you ever has to live in a communist state.

Geeky is my hero. She's the true badass. The badass who doesn't even need to be a badass. There aren't enough O's in cool to describe her.
Also, I know it's horrible but if it gets to be like 3-4 days, think about some children's glycerine suppositories. They are awful but we had to use them with Ben and you want them to finally go, because the longer they don't, the harder the poop gets. You can ask your pediatrician.

Good luck. That was the hardest part of potty training with both kids for me.

They do make kids' chewable probiotic tablets.
Originally Posted by geeky
I just realized I had some of those chewable tablets...it says age 4 and over..so I've been giving her 1 instead of the recommended 3.

She still hasn't gone. Scares me...I'm going to call the pedi this afternoon...to see what to do. I dread if I have to do a suppository.

So hard..I never had this issue with my son...I was so constipated the whole pregnancy...maybe that's why. With her I wasn't...but she has these issue. I take the 9 months of constipation for her not to have these problems. LOL ( I wish it worked that way).
Just wanted to update on Addison's potty training. We finally got past the constipation issues. It took about 2 weeks for her to start going regularly...by the end of the 2nd week she would ask..can I poop in my pull-up. I would tell her yes.

I decided after 2 weeks...to go full throttle into potty training. Only panties except for at nap-time and bed time. I offered her a Jessie Shirt if she went poop and pee on the potty for a full week. It worked. She is now pooping and peeing on the potty. She does miss a day here or there pooping but I don't worry about it...just give her more fruit...back off carbs the next day. She is waking up dry so I'm going to start leaving her in her panties at nap time...and go from there.

Other good things is she is starting to listen to her body about when she needs to go. I don't have to prompt her as much. She knows when she needs to pee and poop. I did find if I leave her in her pull-up on the weekend...we stay in our pj's on the weekend longer than normal ( I forgot to change out pull-up for panties)... that she will poop in them.

Looking back...I just think I started too early. I should have waited for a little more interest by her and the indicator that she was waking up dry at naptime and bedtime.

Hopefully I'm on my last box of pull-ups!!
Yeah! I'm doing the Happy Potty Dance for her.
My kids were never dry after nap or bedtime. They were lazy and knew the pull up would absorb if they peed. If they had to go before bedtime, they would wait until they had a pull up on, and they'd pee in it, even before they were asleep!

Sometimes pull ups cause more trouble. So eventually I just get tired of it. Bailey was about 5, and Bella is 4. I just layer waterproof pee pads and towels on their bed so I don't have to change sheets in the middle of the night, make sure they pee right before bed, and them prepare to take them to the bathroom a couple of times.

I carry them to the bathroom about 2 hours after they've gone to bed, and then before I go to bed. Sometimes there are accidents, but I think they need to feel that they've wet themselves, and have that wake them up wet, as part of the training process.


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Oliver is 3 and has been potty-trained for almost a year, but he still won't stay dry at night. His older brother didn't until closer to 4, and I'm usually not concerned about having him in pull-ups at night. But the other day I was putting him to bed, and he said, "Mommy, I'm going pee-pee." I said, "Let's take you to the bathroom! Hurry!" He said, "Nope! The pee-pee already came out." Cheeky monkey!
I consider day training and night training to be two totally separate things. A child who is reliably day trained can still wears diapers at night, and I would still consider that child pottytrained. My kids each wore a diaper (not a pull-up...pull-ups cause regression) at night for about a year after they were day trained.
I consider day training and night training to be two totally separate things. A child who is reliably day trained can still wears diapers at night, and I would still consider that child pottytrained. My kids each wore a diaper (not a pull-up...pull-ups cause regression) at night for about a year after they were day trained.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
I agree.

But I used pull ups only because diapers are too difficult to get on a toddler. I don't use them as a way of the kid trying to potty train. My kids would never go into the bathroom with a pull up on, and take it off to pee. So I guess I use it as a diaper.

Bella was day trained at 2. And she's just working on night training now.


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I consider day training and night training to be two totally separate things. A child who is reliably day trained can still wears diapers at night, and I would still consider that child pottytrained. My kids each wore a diaper (not a pull-up...pull-ups cause regression) at night for about a year after they were day trained.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
I agree.

But I used pull ups only because diapers are too difficult to get on a toddler. I don't use them as a way of the kid trying to potty train. My kids would never go into the bathroom with a pull up on, and take it off to pee. So I guess I use it as a diaper.

Bella was day trained at 2. And she's just working on night training now.


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Originally Posted by iroc
I agree as well. Both of my older kids were dry at night right after they turned 3. I don't think Maya ever wet the bed after we gave up the nighttime diapers and I remember Max wetting once- we were on vacation,it was summer, so he was about 3-3. This guy though..... he has been day trained since right after his second birthday but he is showing no signs of staying dry at night. He'll be 3 1/2 this month so I know it is within the range of normal, but I would love to be done with diapers completely.
My older boys were occasional bedwetters for YEARS after they became night trained...I'm talking age 7, 8, 9. It's just something that happens, particularly with boys. It's irritating, but still normal.
My kids were never dry after nap or bedtime. They were lazy and knew the pull up would absorb if they peed. If they had to go before bedtime, they would wait until they had a pull up on, and they'd pee in it, even before they were asleep!

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Originally Posted by iroc
My daughter used to do this too. Ornery little girl. She figured it out way before I did. =) I took the pull ups away and that solved the problem.
What's the best way to transition to the actually toilet? My son is 3 and he dumps his potty himself all day long and wears only underwear unless we have to go out then we use a pullups but when we take it off he's always dry and he stays dry all night but he has no interest in using the toilet even if it has one of those seat things on it.

My older boys were occasional bedwetters for YEARS after they became night trained...I'm talking age 7, 8, 9. It's just something that happens, particularly with boys. It's irritating, but still normal.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
i needed to see this. my 4 yr old is still not night trained. no issues with daytime (she's been potty trained since right before she turen 2) but nighttime is driving me batty.
What's the best way to transition to the actually toilet? My son is 3 and he dumps his potty himself all day long and wears only underwear unless we have to go out then we use a pullups but when we take it off he's always dry and he stays dry all night but he has no interest in using the toilet even if it has one of those seat things on it.
Originally Posted by Delma
My younger son was the same way. Finally I just hid the potty chair. I told him it had to go to the babies who needed potty chairs, and he was a big enough boy now that he could use the toilet. He resisted a little at first, but it worked. He wanted "help" getting sat up on the toilet for a while, but now he just does it all himself.
My older boys were occasional bedwetters for YEARS after they became night trained...I'm talking age 7, 8, 9. It's just something that happens, particularly with boys. It's irritating, but still normal.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Yup, my 5 year old still has an accident every once in awhile. Usually if it's at night...he wakes up before he's fully wet and calls out to me. He has had on occasion an accident during day...last time...there was a stool on the toilet...from cleaning. He couldn't make it downstairs. I felt so bad. We got through periods where we have 2 or 3 accidents in a row....then it stops. I usually check his underwear to make sure it's not to small (found that causes accidents) or chalk it up to his growing...I swear I think sometimes bladder grows and they have to adjust to the amount of pee it can hold or something.

I think I will take Addison out of pullups during naptime this week. See what happens. She did have 1 accident this weekend but we weren't home and she was on her way to the bathroom just didn't make it. It's going to happen but it's nice that we made some major progress.

I am scared next week that she might go backwards because she starts daycare (nanny is having surgery will be out 6 weeks). The bathrooms are not in the classroom...so they have to ask to go...or walk to them. I'm hoping she isn't too shy..3 seems young to not have bathrooms. I was told if she wasn't trained...she would have to go to the 2 year old class. I know she would hate that.
My older boys were occasional bedwetters for YEARS after they became night trained...I'm talking age 7, 8, 9. It's just something that happens, particularly with boys. It's irritating, but still normal.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
i needed to see this. my 4 yr old is still not night trained. no issues with daytime (she's been potty trained since right before she turen 2) but nighttime is driving me batty.
Originally Posted by subbrock


I think the best thing is just to ignore it and let her have her nighttime diaper as long as she needs it. In the big picture, the age of night training it's not going to matter all that much. Or if she doesn't wear a diaper and just has occasional bedwetting, then just get a waterproof mattress cover and teach her how to strip her bed and put the sheets in the washer. Bedwetting is very normal and lots of kids do it. Try not to stigmatize or make a big deal out of it. It does eventually end.

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