Carseats, strollers and carriers.. oh my!

RCW gave excellent advice!!! I function better on a routine personally and could never sleep with a baby in my bed. I did many of the things she listed. I would like to add get baby used to noises. I rarely turned down a tv or refrained from vacuuming. Heck nap time was one of the only times I could vacuum, do dishes, etc.

Good sleep habits from the start can be beneficial for the long haul. 9 and 11 years later I'm still benefiting from it. Both of my kids are asleep half an hour after their designated bed times and neither have ever had many problems self-soothing or staying asleep.

I am really lucky to have good sleepers and I don't take it for granted.


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We aren't doing a family bed, but do have a smaller bed (bassinet) for in our room that we're planning to use in the first few weeks/months (we'll see how it goes). I'd like to make getting up in the middle of the night easier on myself... (I don't want to get up and have to walk to the nursery). I am planning to put the baby to sleep to nap in their own room straight away during the day though. Is that too confusing, do you think, or will they be ok as long as the routine starts early?
Originally Posted by Like.Australia


I did that with my babies...they slept in my room at night (in a porta-crib) and in their own room for naps in the daytime. Worked great. They were in my room at night for most of the first year. Then, when they seemed to be getting too aware of us in the room, that's when they went to their own room at night...around 9-12 months of age. I still kept the porta-crib for naps, for years, just so they would be accustomed to sleeping in it for when we traveled.

Funny, I still have that porta-crib, and my own kids are all well-past napping age, but my babysit-boy sleeps in it every day. He's 3.5 years old and barely fits in it, but he willingly gets in it every day for a nap because he's so used to it, so I keep letting him. My husband was bugging me recently to get rid of it and have the kid nap in the guest bed. I won't do it. Because I know that when the porta-crib goes, then naps will be over...and I enjoy my 2 hours of peace every afternoon much too much to give them up willingly.
We aren't doing a family bed, but do have a smaller bed (bassinet) for in our room that we're planning to use in the first few weeks/months (we'll see how it goes). I'd like to make getting up in the middle of the night easier on myself... (I don't want to get up and have to walk to the nursery). I am planning to put the baby to sleep to nap in their own room straight away during the day though. Is that too confusing, do you think, or will they be ok as long as the routine starts early?
Originally Posted by Like.Australia


I did that with my babies...they slept in my room at night (in a porta-crib) and in their own room for naps in the daytime. Worked great. They were in my room at night for most of the first year. Then, when they seemed to be getting too aware of us in the room, that's when they went to their own room at night...around 9-12 months of age. I still kept the porta-crib for naps, for years, just so they would be accustomed to sleeping in it for when we traveled.

Funny, I still have that porta-crib, and my own kids are all well-past napping age, but my babysit-boy sleeps in it every day. He's 3.5 years old and barely fits in it, but he willingly gets in it every day for a nap because he's so used to it, so I keep letting him. My husband was bugging me recently to get rid of it and have the kid nap in the guest bed. I won't do it. Because I know that when the porta-crib goes, then naps will be over...and I enjoy my 2 hours of peace every afternoon much too much to give them up willingly.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves

That port a crib for naps idea is great. Both my kids would have probably napped longer! They stopped shortly after moving out of their crib.

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Both my kids would have probably napped longer! They stopped shortly after moving out of their crib.
Originally Posted by iroc


Yeah, you can't change a toddler's/pre-schooler's nap venue. The slightest little change can break the Magical Nap Spell.
As for establishing sleep schedules as babies to carry good sleep habits through life, I dont buy that.

I put my oldest on a schedule for everything. She is the one who wakes up during the night. The one who had no schedule for sleep at all is the one who sleeps like a rock, sometimes til 9 am. I think they develop their own sleep personality, like everything else, when they get older.

I love the baby stages. I wish I could have more. Its so relaxed and easy to me. They can fall asleep anywhere, whenever - the only rough thing is the lack of sleep for us, and so what, thats temporary.

I find toddler through school age to be way more difficult.

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[QUOTE=Like.Australia;1947397
I guess I knew that, I just hadn't considered it a stroller issue - i now see that it is though
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i think this would be more of an issue if you were going to use your stroller a lot during newborn stages but i think you mentioned waiting til 6 months or so to use/buy a stroller. by then, the once in a while sleeping at 120 degrees is not going to have the same effect on the baby or his/her sleep patterns that were mentioned so i really think you'll be fine with any sort of reclining stroller.


doesnt look like you've had much input on the actual car seat recommendations and well, i'm a bit of junkie! what car do you drive? that could totally affect the fit and ease of use for the car seat. the folks over at car-seat.org (another forum like this) are great at helping you find and fit the right seat for your budget, your child, and your vehicle but i'd be glad to help too! it can be a hassle but the safety of your child really does depend on it. so many people are skeptics about the value of the info available about car seat safety but its mostly cause it seems inconvenient to the parents but really, how can we compare convenience to our child's safety?

anyway, without knowing your vehicle or your budget, i'd say the most widely recommended convertible seats that fit newborns well are probably the Diono Radian, the First Years True Fit, Graco MyRide, and the Cosco Scenera. Most of the Britax seats have too high of bottom shoulder strap slots for newborns because the straps need to come from below the baby's shoulder while rearfacing so I'd stay away from those. the ones i mentioned range from $40 - $250 and all have great reviews and pass all the safety tests without problems. the Scenera only lasts til 40lbs whereas the others all will get you to 60-65 lbs so way more likely that your child could be ready for a booster by the time they outgrow the convertible which would save you from having to buy another harnessing forward facing seat later. the ones listed also all rear-face(as do most nowadays) to 35-40lbs and this is highly recommended from the APA to rear face as long as a child can in any seat as its soooo much safer. has to do with a child's spinal cord development not being adequate until late toddler years to truly handle impact while forward facing. again, way more info on car-seat.org. i found that site while searching for a good car seat for a long torsoed child and they were super helpful.

again, let me know if i can help or advise in any way.

ps: i'm a big fan of getting a baby on a schedule early on(i figured if it was good enough for the ICU it must make sense). i'm not usually that scheduled of a person but it made for a very easy transition into parenting and definitely helped instill sleeping habits(also great for establishing and maintaining mother's milk supply). i have a 5 month old who eats when he wakes up then stays up for a total of an hour before sleeping again for 2 hours...then all over again. hoping to transition to a 3.5 to 4 hour schedule soon though.

above all, figure out what makes sense to you and give it all you've got. it might take a bit for the schedule to work for each baby and it might not be right for you but being flexible is part of parenting.

congrats on your pregnancy and good luck!
[QUOTE=2b or not 2b;1949468]

i think this would be more of an issue if you were going to use your stroller a lot during newborn stages but i think you mentioned waiting til 6 months or so to use/buy a stroller. by then, the once in a while sleeping at 120 degrees is not going to have the same effect on the baby or his/her sleep patterns that were mentioned so i really think you'll be fine with any sort of reclining stroller.


doesnt look like you've had much input on the actual car seat recommendations and well, i'm a bit of junkie! what car do you drive? that could totally affect the fit and ease of use for the car seat. the folks over at car-seat.org (another forum like this) are great at helping you find and fit the right seat for your budget, your child, and your vehicle but i'd be glad to help too! it can be a hassle but the safety of your child really does depend on it. so many people are skeptics about the value of the info available about car seat safety but its mostly cause it seems inconvenient to the parents but really, how can we compare convenience to our child's safety?

anyway, without knowing your vehicle or your budget, i'd say the most widely recommended convertible seats that fit newborns well are probably the Diono Radian, the First Years True Fit, Graco MyRide, and the Cosco Scenera. Most of the Britax seats have too high of bottom shoulder strap slots for newborns because the straps need to come from below the baby's shoulder while rearfacing so I'd stay away from those. the ones i mentioned range from $40 - $250 and all have great reviews and pass all the safety tests without problems. the Scenera only lasts til 40lbs whereas the others all will get you to 60-65 lbs so way more likely that your child could be ready for a booster by the time they outgrow the convertible which would save you from having to buy another harnessing forward facing seat later. the ones listed also all rear-face(as do most nowadays) to 35-40lbs and this is highly recommended from the APA to rear face as long as a child can in any seat as its soooo much safer. has to do with a child's spinal cord development not being adequate until late toddler years to truly handle impact while forward facing. again, way more info on car-seat.org. i found that site while searching for a good car seat for a long torsoed child and they were super helpful.

again, let me know if i can help or advise in any way.

ps: i'm a big fan of getting a baby on a schedule early on(i figured if it was good enough for the ICU it must make sense). i'm not usually that scheduled of a person but it made for a very easy transition into parenting and definitely helped instill sleeping habits(also great for establishing and maintaining mother's milk supply). i have a 5 month old who eats when he wakes up then stays up for a total of an hour before sleeping again for 2 hours...then all over again. hoping to transition to a 3.5 to 4 hour schedule soon though.

above all, figure out what makes sense to you and give it all you've got. it might take a bit for the schedule to work for each baby and it might not be right for you but being flexible is part of parenting.

congrats on your pregnancy and good luck!
Originally Posted by Like.Australia;1947397
I guess I knew that, I just hadn't considered it a stroller issue - i now see that it is though
[/QUOTE
Thanks for your input. We have a 2012 BMW x3 (small-ish SUV). I have been looking at Britax, so that's good to know about them. I've also been looking at ricaro (not sure how to spell that). I'll check out the website you mentioned too.
[QUOTE=Like.Australia;1949475]

i think this would be more of an issue if you were going to use your stroller a lot during newborn stages but i think you mentioned waiting til 6 months or so to use/buy a stroller. by then, the once in a while sleeping at 120 degrees is not going to have the same effect on the baby or his/her sleep patterns that were mentioned so i really think you'll be fine with any sort of reclining stroller.


doesnt look like you've had much input on the actual car seat recommendations and well, i'm a bit of junkie! what car do you drive? that could totally affect the fit and ease of use for the car seat. the folks over at car-seat.org (another forum like this) are great at helping you find and fit the right seat for your budget, your child, and your vehicle but i'd be glad to help too! it can be a hassle but the safety of your child really does depend on it. so many people are skeptics about the value of the info available about car seat safety but its mostly cause it seems inconvenient to the parents but really, how can we compare convenience to our child's safety?

anyway, without knowing your vehicle or your budget, i'd say the most widely recommended convertible seats that fit newborns well are probably the Diono Radian, the First Years True Fit, Graco MyRide, and the Cosco Scenera. Most of the Britax seats have too high of bottom shoulder strap slots for newborns because the straps need to come from below the baby's shoulder while rearfacing so I'd stay away from those. the ones i mentioned range from $40 - $250 and all have great reviews and pass all the safety tests without problems. the Scenera only lasts til 40lbs whereas the others all will get you to 60-65 lbs so way more likely that your child could be ready for a booster by the time they outgrow the convertible which would save you from having to buy another harnessing forward facing seat later. the ones listed also all rear-face(as do most nowadays) to 35-40lbs and this is highly recommended from the APA to rear face as long as a child can in any seat as its soooo much safer. has to do with a child's spinal cord development not being adequate until late toddler years to truly handle impact while forward facing. again, way more info on car-seat.org. i found that site while searching for a good car seat for a long torsoed child and they were super helpful.

again, let me know if i can help or advise in any way.

ps: i'm a big fan of getting a baby on a schedule early on(i figured if it was good enough for the ICU it must make sense). i'm not usually that scheduled of a person but it made for a very easy transition into parenting and definitely helped instill sleeping habits(also great for establishing and maintaining mother's milk supply). i have a 5 month old who eats when he wakes up then stays up for a total of an hour before sleeping again for 2 hours...then all over again. hoping to transition to a 3.5 to 4 hour schedule soon though.

above all, figure out what makes sense to you and give it all you've got. it might take a bit for the schedule to work for each baby and it might not be right for you but being flexible is part of parenting.

congrats on your pregnancy and good luck!
Originally Posted by Like.Australia;1947397
I guess I knew that, I just hadn't considered it a stroller issue - i now see that it is though
[/QUOTE
Thanks for your input. We have a 2012 BMW x3 (small-ish SUV). I have been looking at Britax, so that's good to know about them. I've also been looking at ricaro (not sure how to spell that). I'll check out the website you mentioned too.
Originally Posted by 2b or not 2b


i remember someone on there saying that the Recaro seats fit newborns like Britax...its like they're made more for after the "bucket" since by 6-9 months and an extra couple inches of torso they're fine depending on the baby and its torso height. maybe save the Recaro or Britax for later? btw, i forgot to mention the Triumph65 as another great option. we have its predecessor and LOVE it!

you might also check out this http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=156369

while doing a quick browse for you (see i'm addicted i also noticed that your car is likely to have rear side-curtain airbags so check into what that means and how it affects seat installation/placement or if they can/need to be turned off for carseat passengers.
...ugh, so much to think about eh?

i think this would be more of an issue if you were going to use your stroller a lot during newborn stages but i think you mentioned waiting til 6 months or so to use/buy a stroller. by then, the once in a while sleeping at 120 degrees is not going to have the same effect on the baby or his/her sleep patterns that were mentioned so i really think you'll be fine with any sort of reclining stroller.


doesnt look like you've had much input on the actual car seat recommendations and well, i'm a bit of junkie! what car do you drive? that could totally affect the fit and ease of use for the car seat. the folks over at car-seat.org (another forum like this) are great at helping you find and fit the right seat for your budget, your child, and your vehicle but i'd be glad to help too! it can be a hassle but the safety of your child really does depend on it. so many people are skeptics about the value of the info available about car seat safety but its mostly cause it seems inconvenient to the parents but really, how can we compare convenience to our child's safety?

anyway, without knowing your vehicle or your budget, i'd say the most widely recommended convertible seats that fit newborns well are probably the Diono Radian, the First Years True Fit, Graco MyRide, and the Cosco Scenera. Most of the Britax seats have too high of bottom shoulder strap slots for newborns because the straps need to come from below the baby's shoulder while rearfacing so I'd stay away from those. the ones i mentioned range from $40 - $250 and all have great reviews and pass all the safety tests without problems. the Scenera only lasts til 40lbs whereas the others all will get you to 60-65 lbs so way more likely that your child could be ready for a booster by the time they outgrow the convertible which would save you from having to buy another harnessing forward facing seat later. the ones listed also all rear-face(as do most nowadays) to 35-40lbs and this is highly recommended from the APA to rear face as long as a child can in any seat as its soooo much safer. has to do with a child's spinal cord development not being adequate until late toddler years to truly handle impact while forward facing. again, way more info on car-seat.org. i found that site while searching for a good car seat for a long torsoed child and they were super helpful.

again, let me know if i can help or advise in any way.

ps: i'm a big fan of getting a baby on a schedule early on(i figured if it was good enough for the ICU it must make sense). i'm not usually that scheduled of a person but it made for a very easy transition into parenting and definitely helped instill sleeping habits(also great for establishing and maintaining mother's milk supply). i have a 5 month old who eats when he wakes up then stays up for a total of an hour before sleeping again for 2 hours...then all over again. hoping to transition to a 3.5 to 4 hour schedule soon though.

above all, figure out what makes sense to you and give it all you've got. it might take a bit for the schedule to work for each baby and it might not be right for you but being flexible is part of parenting.

congrats on your pregnancy and good luck!
Originally Posted by 2b or not 2b
Thanks for your input. We have a 2012 BMW x3 (small-ish SUV). I have been looking at Britax, so that's good to know about them. I've also been looking at ricaro (not sure how to spell that). I'll check out the website you mentioned too.
Originally Posted by Like.Australia


i remember someone on there saying that the Recaro seats fit newborns like Britax...its like they're made more for after the "bucket" since by 6-9 months and an extra couple inches of torso they're fine depending on the baby and its torso height. maybe save the Recaro or Britax for later? btw, i forgot to mention the Triumph65 as another great option. we have its predecessor and LOVE it!

you might also check out this http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=156369

while doing a quick browse for you (see i'm addicted i also noticed that your car is likely to have rear side-curtain airbags so check into what that means and how it affects seat installation/placement or if they can/need to be turned off for carseat passengers.
...ugh, so much to think about eh?
Originally Posted by 2b or not 2b
Thanks so much!

I'm pretty sure we do have the rear airbags. I'll ask DH to look into it this weekend.
We started with a peg perego infant seat & stroller, the we transitioned into a Britax. We took the car seat out only a few times, but I'm happy we went with the infant seat cause it fit him so well. I tried using the car seat with the stroller only a couple times, but I baby wore a lot. I wouldn't have done it another way just cause I liked the size of infant seat for my babe.

We now have a Britax blink stroller, which I got since I didn't love the peg perego, and I am really happy with it. I would highly recommend the Britax blink. I have a lightweight peg perego but we prefer the Britax.

I second the recommendation to check out car seat.org. My son is 2 years 8 months (tomorrow) and still happily sits rear facing in his Britax marathons (one is a classic & one is a marathon 70).
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Ah, it all makes sense now. Goldy is the puppet master!
I love this thread. I was lucky. My daughter basically put herself on schedule.
I never let her cry it out when she was small. I just soothed n feed and all that. She slept n the bed with me when I was breastfeeding unless my husband was home, then she slept n a bassinet. She started getting to.the point where she would wake up n stand n the bassinet which was scary so I got her the crib. She basically set her own sleeping patterns once she got the crib. The first few days I had to put her to bed n let her cry for 5mins then sooth n put her back n the bed. Then she figured out that crib=bedtime. After that she went to sleep at 9-10 then she switched to 7. I love it! Lol. Sleep at 7, wakes up 1 to eat sometimes, then wakes up at 7-8. Anywho, continue lol

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I'll be the sole proponent of the infant seat.

Both of my babies were small - both were 20 lbs or under for the first year. My second baby was 6 lbs - she didn't even fit in the convertible seat as a newborn. So we got a full year's worth of use out of the bucket x 2. They both preferred to be inclined more rather than less. I found they didn't look comfortable in the convertible seat until they were a little bigger.

Personally I liked having a stroller with me and I was out and about a lot with my babies - if I was wearing my baby then the stroller was the ideal place to put my shopping/diaper bag etc.... And sometimes you just want to put that baby down.

Anyways, I don't know if they sell the same car seats now, but we had the Graco Snugride bucket and we have the Sunshine Kids Radian car seats (we currently own 4 of them lol). We also have the Britax Marathon - I find it too big for anything other than captain chairs in a minivan.


I'm also a fan of the infant seat. My 13 month old is still in hers and my 4 year old used hers for the first year as well.

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