Talk to Me About Eczema & Ear Infections-UPDATED

Whole yogurt and sour cream (both with the live cultures) are very good home remedies for battling dry skin/eczema. I put Karan in the tub and slather him with yogurt and let him play around for as long as he's willing and then wash him off with water. Much less outbreaks since we've started doing this.

We wash him with lukewarm water and use Dove soap. We use Glaxal Base as our cream, but I'm pretty sure that's not available in the US.

We've got a Rx for 2.5% hydrocortizone but I use it sparingly.
Originally Posted by mad scientist
And I bet he just LOVES playing around in the mess. I will definitely give that a try when Evan can sit up by himself for longer periods of time.
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I did address it...the best way to avoid ear infections is to avoid the common cold which ear infections generally follow, and the best way to avoid colds is to avoid germs, and for little kids, that means avoiding large groups of sick children. If it can't be avoided, then the usual next steps seem to be doctor visits, antibiotics and ear tubes.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
you wrote: You could try just building the immune system through diet...lots of Vitamin-C-rich foods daily.

i think the bold advice that you gave was more in line to the suggestions, advice, and support she was asking for in her initial post.

you padded a lot of your response with an undertone of "advocacy for mothers staying at home with their kids," and that's not what she wanted or needed.

it may not have been your intention to come across that way . . . . but your reply did render that air nonetheless.
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poor Z...

hopefully, she will get better soon.
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Whole yogurt and sour cream (both with the live cultures) are very good home remedies for battling dry skin/eczema. I put Karan in the tub and slather him with yogurt and let him play around for as long as he's willing and then wash him off with water. Much less outbreaks since we've started doing this.

We wash him with lukewarm water and use Dove soap. We use Glaxal Base as our cream, but I'm pretty sure that's not available in the US.

We've got a Rx for 2.5% hydrocortizone but I use it sparingly.
Originally Posted by mad scientist
And I bet he just LOVES playing around in the mess. I will definitely give that a try when Evan can sit up by himself for longer periods of time.
Originally Posted by curly_keltie
He liked eating the yogurt a little too much, so we switched over to sour cream. Thankfully, he doesn't have a taste for that.

I seriously can't believe how soft and shiny his skin (and curls, btw) are since we've started doing this. Its so nice to see soft baby skin without scratch marks all over it.
Thanks for all your responses. The update isn't good. She's now a week into the 3rd round of antibiotics, and we thought she'd been doing better. But she woke up screaming in pain last night and is pulling on both her ears something fierce this morning. She doesn't have a fever. We can't figure out how, after a week on this one (and weeks on the others), this could suddenly just start bothering her again like this. She really had been doing better and had a few restful nights. I really think this is the same infection that just won't clear up, not repeated ones. She is, at least, FINALLY not showing any cold/cough/sniffle symptoms, for the first time in months.

Actually there can be a solution between both extremes you've posted in natural medicine as well as nontraditional therapies which I think is what SP was asking about.
Originally Posted by marielle448
That's exactly right Marielle! My first inclination with anything I don't know is to research the heck out of it. But the information I find on this problem is contradictory, confusing, conflicted. I know our next step will be to head to a specialist, which is fine. But I'm not ready to just go ahead with ear tubes yet. I'm not even sure how I feel about those anyway. The opinions vary widely and they feel a little like a "last resort" kind of option to me. I did buy some herbs, and we could do some food trials to see if there any food sensitivities that might be contributing. But honestly, I am not sure I want to try any of that stuff till she's over this thing, so we know *what* part of the equation is working if something does actually work. I'm a little uncomfortable trying random supplements without really knowing what I'm doing, too. I am thinking about making an appointment with a naturopathic doctor, in addition to seeing the ENT as I'm sure we'll be asked to do.

Oh and my Whole Foods doesn't carry the California Baby Calendula Cream, so we're trying the Weleda one and it's not doing squat. Plus it stinks (I HATE the scent of lavender). With 2 dogs who have severe food sensititivities, I just keep wondering if there's something going on that's causing both these issues. But she's just not eating anything new/different/allergenic. Even the stuff she gets at daycare isn't.

Argh. This is all so frustrating. And it just kills me to see her suffering.
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Sweetpickles, can I post crash and talk about me? Xander has his third freaking ear infection since mid-January. I'm on board with you know in thinking that this is the same infection that can't go away. Hie temp was over 104 this morning.

Why are our babies being tortured like this? I hope Zora's latest round of antibiotics does the trick for her. With Spring coming up, maybe that will help both of these little people.

Thankfully, we will see the ENT on Tuesday. He will also get his hearing tested and I know he has suffered hearing loss from all of this. Oh well, at least we will know and can work on it. I was iffy about tubes before. Now, I will put them in myself if it will get us off of this cycle of ear infections.


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Sweetpickles, can I post crash and talk about me? Xander has his third freaking ear infection since mid-January. I'm on board with you know in thinking that this is the same infection that can't go away. Hie temp was over 104 this morning.

Why are our babies being tortured like this? I hope Zora's latest round of antibiotics does the trick for her. With Spring coming up, maybe that will help both of these little people.

Thankfully, we will see the ENT on Tuesday. He will also get his hearing tested and I know he has suffered hearing loss from all of this. Oh well, at least we will know and can work on it. I was iffy about tubes before. Now, I will put them in myself if it will get us off of this cycle of ear infections.

You can order CB online or I can pick some up and send it you. Just PM me if you want me to. I promise I am not a psycho. I've also seen it in Target recently but it's kind of hit or miss.
Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Crash & vent all you like! I am so sorry you're both going through this! I don't know how you've done it as long as you have. I hope all goes well with the ENT and that both Xander and you get some relief soon. I also hope the results of the hearing tests are okay (more than okay!).

After faking work all morning and doing exhaustive research, I am growing ever more suspicious that there's some larger, systemic issue going on, that a lot of Z's problems may have to do with some dairy sensitivities (allergy, or one of the types of intolerance, who knows). She's got a host of other things that have cropped up recently besides the ear infections and eczema, symptoms that can be related to that. It just all feels like too much to be purely *coincidental.* Her dairy intake has definitely increased substantially over the last couple of months. Not to mention I'm lactose intolerant myself. I guess we'll be getting to do some food trials right alongside the ones the doggles are currently involved in. They're all going to be pretty mad that no one gets to eat anything good for a while! Ear infection "season" is supposedly peaking right about now. I hope that a change in weather helps somehow too.

Thanks for the offer to send along the CB stuff. That's very sweet! I just may take you up on that offer. Target here recently started carrying a whole bunch of CB products, but not that one. I'm going to try calling my co-op to see if they have it or can order it.

Hope little Xander is feeling better soon. Keep us updated!
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Another update:

Z's at the pediatrician this afternoon because she's been barfing every 5 minutes. BUT, they think the antibiotic is doing some good this time and it's clearing up. Unfortunately, she's going to have to get a shot of it, since she's still got three days left and will just throw it up. So keep your fingers crossed that this is the one that works...

And interestingly, this other doctor (who we've not seen before) thinks her skin issues are not actually eczema, but rather something viral.
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Hey SP,

Crossing Fingers for you!! Liam is in the same boat as the rest of you!! He's had ongoing ear infections and fluid in the ears.. The pediatrician (I swear I see them so often I should just rent a damn exam room) said he wants to see him in 3 weeks and if there is no improvement it may be time for tubes...

I think he's kinda young. but we shall see.. right now the main problem is post nasal drip.. he's on Zyrtec at night only which helps him sleep thru the night and not cough. I have a misty humidifier blowing on him (which I wonder do you think that's preventing the ear infections from clearing up?)

I just want my son to be healthy.. and I hope all of you munchkins get better soon!!

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Just a suggestion about the dairy; we have had to switch Em to soy instead of whole cow's milk. She had some exema that went away with the use of some Eucerine lotion, but it returned. She had a cout of ear infections the end of January and into Feb...an infection in the right ear healed, then turned into a double ear infection. She was on anti-biotics for a month. Then since her tummy was all screwed up because of the antibiotics, she got the stomach flu. Got better, went back to school and got the stomach flu again.
Then has had SEVERE constipation. So...

To make a long story short, we went from whoel cow's milk to soy and her tummy and excema are both improving...and she's not coughing as much at night. We'd put her to bed and it would sound like she was just hacking up TONS of mucus or something...all of that had stopped since we cut out the whole milk. She does get some cheese, and we do give her yogurt every day (YoBaby).

GL.

I think that watching what she eats, and maybe even giving her some viatmins might help, but check with your doctor.

Another thing; Em was getting a slight ear infection, or ear inflamation (not enough to be infected, but redness and some pain) EVERY time a tooth came in. We were pretty much expecting a visit to the doctor every time we saw a tooth getting ready to pop through.

She's in a full time larger day care. We did have home care lined up. However, home care does have it's down sides. She woudl close and wouldn't tell anyone until you arrived to drop your kid off, "Oh, sorry, I am closed today, all of the other kids are on vacation." Or, "I am sick, I can't watch anyone today..." Nice. Since she was home care, many parents also figured it was easier to leave a sick kid there (one had diarreah for WEEKS on end, because the mom kept bringing him in, so, my son in turn had weeks of diarreah as well). So, we are paying a LOT more for the full time care in the larger center; but we also get a daily detailed sheet of how much she ate, when she ate, when she was wet, when she had a BM, when she slept, and anyting else they want to note.
The home care did NOT do this.
OH! And when I was returning back to work after having Em, the home care lady called me ONE MONTH before I was going back to say that she decided to no longer watch infants. Yeah, thanks a lot. I called around and most of the schools/day care's waiting lists were ONE YEAR for infant care. I was very fortunate to find one 5 minutes from hubbys' work that had ONE opening.
So, could be that my home care lady just sucked ass, but from whatn I have heard from my friends, some of the home care centers figure that they can "get away" with more, as they don't really get evaluated unless someone complains.

at any rate, does Z have a 15 month well baby coming up? I would discuss things with the doctor about her ears, foods, vitamins, etc.

GL and ((hugs)).
Whole yogurt and sour cream (both with the live cultures) are very good home remedies for battling dry skin/eczema. I put Karan in the tub and slather him with yogurt and let him play around for as long as he's willing and then wash him off with water. Much less outbreaks since we've started doing this.

We wash him with lukewarm water and use Dove soap. We use Glaxal Base as our cream, but I'm pretty sure that's not available in the US.

We've got a Rx for 2.5% hydrocortizone but I use it sparingly.
Originally Posted by mad scientist
And I bet he just LOVES playing around in the mess. I will definitely give that a try when Evan can sit up by himself for longer periods of time.
Originally Posted by curly_keltie
He liked eating the yogurt a little too much, so we switched over to sour cream. Thankfully, he doesn't have a taste for that.

I seriously can't believe how soft and shiny his skin (and curls, btw) are since we've started doing this. Its so nice to see soft baby skin without scratch marks all over it.
Originally Posted by mad scientist
you just described my little guy's skin. He scratches himself a lot - I may try this sooner than later.
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Well, 2.5 rounds of oral antibiotics (Z had a bout of rotovirus, so the last half of the 3rd one got cut short) and one antibiotic shot later, Zora's ears are finally cleared up for the first time in months. I'm positive that shot is what did it (too bad it was such a big PITA to get). Thrilled as I am, I remain cautiously optimistic. I'm now going to make an appointment with a naturopathic doctor and start investigating food sensitivities.

No marked improvement on the skin thing. I would think that if it was viral, as the fill-in pediatrician suggested, it would be well on its way to disappearing by now. So I'm not sure.
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Yay!! I am glad to hear that her ears have cleared up. I hope the new doctor can work with you to eliminate the problem. Maybe working out the food allergies will also help her skin.


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Liam's update.... 4/3/2007

Well we are back on the antibiotics again... 2nd time in the past 2 months. His ears are still fluid filled esp. the left one.. Looks like we will be doing tubes.. The doctors want him to finish this round of antibiotics (10 DAYS) before they make a decision.

Right now my main concern is his post-nasal drip / congestion (which they say is allergies) I am wondering that if we do tubes the whole thing will clear up since everything is connected... he is on Zyrtec at night which seems to help him sleep and I have him propped up so he won't cough so much.. But you can hear all the mucus in his nose and chest that when he coughs he just can't get it up.. I suction his nose as often as I can (which you know he just loves!! )

I just want the doctors to do something.. or tell me what we need to do!! I am thinking of calling the doctor today to have him call me back to just talk about our options...

Does he need tubes? If so, when ?
Does he need an allergist... to determine what he's allergic to?
Does he need to see a ENT / Audiologist ??

UGH!!!
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Awww, Deedle, I am sorry you and Liam are having such a hard time with his ears. I recommend seeing an ENT and an audiologist. I didn't decide on tubes until I realized that Xander wasn't hearing. If his hearing wasn't suffering, I would have been more interested in trying some other options offered by the ENT. Maybe some less invasive options will work for Liam. At least by seeing an ENT, you will know what else can be done.


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Well, 2.5 rounds of oral antibiotics (Z had a bout of rotovirus, so the last half of the 3rd one got cut short) and one antibiotic shot later, Zora's ears are finally cleared up for the first time in months. I'm positive that shot is what did it (too bad it was such a big PITA to get). Thrilled as I am, I remain cautiously optimistic. I'm now going to make an appointment with a naturopathic doctor and start investigating food sensitivities.

No marked improvement on the skin thing. I would think that if it was viral, as the fill-in pediatrician suggested, it would be well on its way to disappearing by now. So I'm not sure.
Originally Posted by SweetPickles
WOW!!

E's and Z's health history sounds SO much alike!!! We had the exact same thing happen; anti-biotics for almost a month or longer, rotavirus, and the skin thing.

E still has ecxema around her torso, kind where the diaper hits. It will NOT go away. Lotion, vaseline, food - we have NO ideea what's causing it. I think it's just irritation from the daiper, but who knows. We will probably ask again at her 15 month well baby.


Deedle - ((HUGS)) for you and Liam!!! BOTH of my kids had chronic running noses and coughs for almost the first year of their life. They are so susceptible to colds and things like that. My boy is the one who also get allergies, and he's been coughing pretty much all night for the last few weeks; since things started blooming out there.
WOW!!

E's and Z's health history sounds SO much alike!!! We had the exact same thing happen; anti-biotics for almost a month or longer, rotavirus, and the skin thing.

E still has ecxema around her torso, kind where the diaper hits. It will NOT go away. Lotion, vaseline, food - we have NO ideea what's causing it. I think it's just irritation from the daiper, but who knows. We will probably ask again at her 15 month well baby.
Originally Posted by M2LR & Co.
They do sound similar, don't they? She currently seems ear infection-free, even had a small cold last week, but who knows. She typically doesn't show too many symptoms, so I'm watching her really closely. We're going to be adding some days to her current daycare schedule so J can actually finish that dissertation, so I'm gearing up for more fun illnesses! The skin thing seems a tiny bit better, but it's definitely not going away.
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