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Old 04-25-2008, 03:30 PM   #1
 
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Default Grrrr! My spinning baby- Update!

Some of you might remember that at my 28 week checkup, my baby was transverse. By 30 weeks, he was vertex, and I had expected him to stay that way. Last Friday, he was vertex and measured 35 weeks with the tape thingy. Today, he measured only 33 weeks, so the midwife felt around a bit- he's transverse again. I'm so aggravated. She was encouraging about it- she said he's flipped a lot so he'll likely flip back, and said I should try the spinning babies stuff. She scheduled an ultrasound for next week to confirm his position. If he's still transverse, she wants to plan on doing an external version at 38 weeks. She said the version will most likely be successful given the amount he's moved around. I really need him to go to 40 weeks, his daddy will be out of town until then and I don't have another support person or even anyone I feel comfortable asking.

Do you guys think you could send me some get vertex and stay that way vibes? Thanks.
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Old 04-25-2008, 05:27 PM   #2
 
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Sending you positive thoughts and prayers re: baby's position. Homeopathic pulsatilla is excellent for positioning and the modified handstand/squat procedure as well as the spinning babies stuff on the reclined ironing board.
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Old 04-25-2008, 05:47 PM   #3
 
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I'm sorry, I'm sure this is stressful. Sending some upside down baby vibes your way.
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:26 PM   #4
 
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Lex flip flopped a lot as well. Check with your chiropractor for webster's technique.
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Old 04-26-2008, 07:50 AM   #5
 
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Lex flip flopped a lot as well. Check with your chiropractor for webster's technique.

Ditto that. I'm visiting the chiropractor in a few days, so I've been reading up a lot on the subject. They say (for what it's worth) that the Webster technique has something like an 80% success rate for turning malpositioned babies. It might be worth looking into. Go to http://www.icpa4kids.org/ for info.
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Old 04-26-2008, 08:36 AM   #6
 
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Thanks guys. I'm not sure if the chiropractor is an option for me financially, but I'm looking into it.

I did a lot more reading on the spinning babies site last night (too anxious to sleep, probably not good for baby's position either), and I'm actually encouraged by the fact that he's transverse and not in a 'real' breech position- I also think he might have turned again, though not all the way, his feet are kicking from a different spot than yesterday. I ish he'd get hiccups again so I'd know for sure, although it can be hard to tell if the spasms are coming from his head or his abdomen.

Thanks for the encouragement.
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Old 04-27-2008, 10:54 AM   #7
 
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My baby is currently tranverse, but I am much earlier than you (28 weeks). What exactly does an external version involve? Do they reach inside or manipulate the baby outside through the skin? I am guessing it could be 'uncomfortable' but hopefully not painful??? Good luck. .... by the way... many people claim that walking daily for 20-30 minutes will help the baby move into the correct position.
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What exactly does an external version involve? Do they reach inside or manipulate the baby outside through the skin?
They manipulate the baby from the outside trying to coax it into position. Unfortunately, one of the possible side effects is that the baby may go into distress and need to be delivered right away, which is why they're not usually done until after 36 weeks.
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Old 04-27-2008, 05:02 PM   #9
 
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Well, he has been moving a lot, but it's hard for me to tell where he is really. Except that his hiccups are really low down again. I'm not sure if I'm feeling his head or his abdomen when he hiccups though. I don't know why I'm so worried- the midwife never even mentioned a C section, and Maya was transverse forever, although I don't think it was this late.
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Well, he has been moving a lot, but it's hard for me to tell where he is really. Except that his hiccups are really low down again. I'm not sure if I'm feeling his head or his abdomen when he hiccups though.
FWIW, my baby is head down, and when I feel what I think (??) are hiccups, they are very low.
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:47 PM   #11
 
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Thanks, BEG- I think it's his head, too, from what I remember from my other pregnancies and also from when he was vertex (like last week ). I'm just completely second guessing myself at this point- I think my belly still looks wider than it did a week ago when he was vertex.

Anyway, I hope all these movements are happy ones. Max was an active newborn, but he was happy. He really didn't flip flop in utero though, although he did kick something fierce.
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It's important to know what position the baby is in before doing any of those spinning-baby techniques. If he's head-down, and you lie upside down, it would disengage his head and help him move breech. If he's vertex, the head should be palpable above the pubic bone at 36 weeks...it's a hard round object. Butts are softer. If he's transverse, then doing things like spending time in hands & knees position can help get him to vertex. Gravity will act on his back, pulling him into anterior vertex (the most desirable birth position) and the H&K position helps open the pelvis to fit his head in there. I'm not a fan of cleaning, and I hate to suggest work for you, but washing your floor on your hands & knees is probably the very best exercise you can do at this point. The side to side pelvic motion from scrubbing is great for positioning babies perfectly for birth.
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If he's transverse, then doing things like spending time in hands & knees position can help get him to vertex. Gravity will act on his back, pulling him into anterior vertex (the most desirable birth position) and the H&K position helps open the pelvis to fit his head in there. I'm not a fan of cleaning, and I hate to suggest work for you, but washing your floor on your hands & knees is probably the very best exercise you can do at this point. The side to side pelvic motion from scrubbing is great for positioning babies perfectly for birth.
Yes, that's what my midwife says too, and in childbirth class they had us do lots of pelvic tilts in the H&K position. H&K also helps sometimes when the baby is getting up in my ribs or when I feel like I can't quite get my breath.
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RCW- I was hoping you'd chime in, I figured you'd know. H & K is much more comfortable for me than the inversion, so that's what I've been doing- it seems intuitive to stick with a position that is comfortable. I am no fan of clenaing either, but I've been doing a fair amount of floor scrubbing on my hands and knees lately and rather than feeing loathesome like such a task usually would, it feels oddly therapeutic.

I have an ultrasound scheduled for Thursday to confirm his position- I 'm fairly certain he's transverse though. His head was palpable above the pubic bone until last week, I think he flipped on Tuesday. I am trying not to stress this- I mean, he must know he can't be born sideways, he's going to turn back at some point one would think.

Silly baby.
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I hope he turns soon!
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I had an ultrasound today- he's vertex again! I'm so relieved. Also, I got to see his little face, which was really exciting.
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I had an ultrasound today- he's vertex again! I'm so relieved. Also, I got to see his little face, which was really exciting.

DO LOTS OF SQUATTING! Keep that head in the pelvis!
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I had an ultrasound today- he's vertex again! I'm so relieved. Also, I got to see his little face, which was really exciting.

DO LOTS OF SQUATTING! Keep that head in the pelvis!
Yes, I will. The field where Max's baseball team practices is at the bottom of a steep hill- I have been walking up it as I've read that lunges are also effective. Hands and knees, too? And how should I be sleeping? I'm trying to stay on my left side. Keeping a pillow between my knees is minimizing the hip stiffness I was getting in the mornings, which I'm guessing is good for keeping the pelvis open.
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