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fuzzbucket 01-07-2010 05:42 PM

Frequent Ear Infections - Tubes?
 
I had them as a kid and seem to have passed them on to Harry. He has his third in as many months and it is a double. We are trying a stronger antibiotic this time. He's got a fever and is in a lot of pain. I just gave him some decongestant (Benadryl) to help him breathe/sleep while DH went out for more Tylenol and Motrin. I just feel so bad for him. :sad5: I know what it feels like, and even had to have my ears drained as a kid.

I know Mad Scientist asked on the speech thread, but has anyone had tubes put in on their kids? What was it like? How did it come to that point for you?

Cynaminbear 01-07-2010 05:55 PM

I'm sorry you're dealing with those, they can be so tenacious. It's a horrible catch-22. To fight the infection the doctor prescribes abx, which wear the body down in their own way, which make the body more susceptible.

My parents were told to put tubes in my brother's ears in the 1970s. They went against that suggestion, cut out sugar and processed foods from our diet, added cod liver oil daily as well as other supplements, and my brother never needed tubes. For my own kids, my daughter had an ear infection every time she cut teeth. I used abx the first time, then after that I learned how to treat hers. First I warmed a tablespoon of olive oil and put a few drops into the affected ear, moving the outer ear to get the oil all the way in, then put a small bit of cotton on the outside to keep the oil in. Then, cod liver oil at least twice a day, chewable vitamin C, cut out all dairy because it produces mucous, and sugar because it wears the body down. Lots of rest. Echinacea drops in diluted, cooled tea. A rice hot pad stays perfectly warm for an hour after microwaving for 60 seconds. Motrin or Tylenol for the pain and fever, too. I can't remember what I used, but also something that would dry up the sinuses to dry up the liquid in the ear canal.
If my kids were to get one now, I'd use some oregano oil in the ear.

My former roommate had a son with recurring ear infections. At 3 his speech was non-existent. The day he had tubes put in he ran to the patio doors, excited because he could hear the train horn that was only 4 blocks away. His ears were so plugged he hadn't heard the train until then.

DarkAngel 01-07-2010 06:29 PM

Alexander got tubes at 18or 19 months after he was diagnosed with mild to moderate hearing loss. I likely would not have gotten them if his hearing wasn't being compromised. It was really cool watching him experience sounds that he couldn't hear before.

The surgery was pretty low key. He had a funky reaction to the anesthesia and screamed and screamed. I think he was disoriented. After it wore off, he was fine.

I think I made a few threads about my experience.

mad scientist 01-07-2010 06:40 PM

Ooh, thanks for starting this thread, although I'm sorry you are dealing with frequent EI's.

In our case, Sandhya's never had an ear infection which is why I'd never thought one way or another about her ears, with regards to tubes or otherwise. We'd be doing it strictly because of hearing concerns.

sarah42 01-07-2010 09:25 PM

I had tubes in my ears as a child. I don't remember much about the ear infections or the procedure, but I do remember waking up afterward and getting to pick out a new stuffed animal at the hospital or clinic. I didn't have any complications from them, and they fell out on their own. The worst thing was that I wasn't supposed to get water in my ears, so I had to wear a bathing cap when I went swimming.

deedles 01-08-2010 08:12 AM

Liam had his in when he was a little one... I think 10 months or so.. which is young but it was worth it!

The surgery took only 15 minutes and by the time I handed him off to the nurses and went back out to the waiting room the doctor came out like 5 minutes later to say it was done! that quick! like DarkAngel Liam had a reaction to the anesthesia and cried quite a bit when he came out of it but honestly he was playing by that afternoon.

one thing I often have to be reminded of by the ENT is that "TUBES DO NOT CURE EAR INFECTIONS" but what they do is help the ear drain to keep infections to a minimal.

Liam continues to have ear infections on occasion but they tend the clear up much quicker now. so I say go for it!

good luck dearie! and hugs to Harry!

D

ps.. and if you are not too squemish here is video I found on google

http://www.entusa.com/surgery_videos...ube_2_flv1.htm

fuzzbucket 01-08-2010 08:46 AM

One of the things we are exploring is the possibility that he has fluid that is not draining. His voice and enunciation are somewhat nasal even on a good day. Also, one of the things he has trouble with, that Early Intervention pointed out, is listening and responding to his name. So, if nothing else, we are getting a hearing check when all this settles down and will go from there.

PixieCurl 01-08-2010 02:54 PM

Solomon used to get frequent ear infections and what's really helped has been chiropractic care. Our family doctor had suggested it a long time ago, but my husband was reluctant to do so because he is skeptical of chiropractors. Finally, after the last one he had, our doctor said that if we didn't try the chiro she was going to recommend tubes. So my husband agreed to at least give it a chance. Well, he hasn't had an ear infection since. Our doc had recommended going 2-3 times, spaced two weeks apart. I think we ended up going 4 times, but we're not going to go anymore until/unless he gets another ear infection (because getting an adjustment can treat existing infections too). Our chiro is VERY gentle with her adjustments - not at all like the harsh cracking you picture with adults.

Speckla 01-08-2010 03:30 PM

My son used to get horrible ear infections and he stopped geting them when we cut back on the dairy products. That was when he was 2 and shortly afterwards had a speech explosion. He really didn't say anything before than that was understandable. Might be just a coincidence though. He gets very stuffy to this day if he drinks milk or has too many dairy products. Allergies to something in dairy that cause excessive fluids and mucus buildup? or possible allergies to things in other foods.

inheritedcurls 01-08-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzbucket (Post 1218670)
One of the things we are exploring is the possibility that he has fluid that is not draining. His voice and enunciation are somewhat nasal even on a good day. Also, one of the things he has trouble with, that Early Intervention pointed out, is listening and responding to his name. So, if nothing else, we are getting a hearing check when all this settles down and will go from there.


This was Chas' problem. He didn't have a ton of ear infections but he had water in his ears that just didn't drain. He would eventually end up with an infection but he didn't have them one after another. He was 20 months old when he got his tubes. I will say his speech exploded after he had tubes. The surgery took 15 minutes...nothing compared to Chas' eye surgeries. The doctor told us he had maximum fluid in both ears when they put the tubes in. We went in around his 3 year birthday and both tubes had fallen out. The doctor removed them...we were done.

I have also heard about dairy being an issue for ear infections as well. Good Luck!

cosmicfly 01-08-2010 04:46 PM

Aidan is getting tubes inserted in a week and a half- he had chronic ear infections last winter and they started up again in October. He's also having his adenoids removed- they are enlarged and he has freequent colds and asthma, which will hoepfully improve. His speech is fine for his age, but he does not make many sounds for the level his language is at, if that makes sense. I wonder if he has intermittent conductive hearing loss at higher frequencies, which is hard to document in babies. If he starts making the sounds he's not after the surgery, I know what I will suspect.

I know it's a surgery, but it's a simple procedure and I'm tired of abx and pain and missing work is beginning to be a problem.

fuzzbucket 01-08-2010 05:15 PM

Aaannnddd, now Nathan has one too. Just saw the doctor at the last Friday appointment. Same ear and everything. Going to be a long weekend.

cosmicfly 01-08-2010 05:19 PM

Oh no! I hope your guys feel better.

deedles 01-09-2010 06:10 PM

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Aidan is getting tubes inserted in a week and a half- he had chronic ear infections last winter and they started up again in October. He's also having his adenoids removed- they are enlarged and he has freequent colds and asthma, which will hoepfully improve
Cosmic, he's only a bit over 1 and having his adenoids removed! WOW! they are making me wait on Liam's tonsils and adenoids till 4 years old (august 2010) (which take up 75%) of the back of his throat..

good luck on aidan's tubes!

D

cosmicfly 01-10-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by deedles (Post 1220253)
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Aidan is getting tubes inserted in a week and a half- he had chronic ear infections last winter and they started up again in October. He's also having his adenoids removed- they are enlarged and he has freequent colds and asthma, which will hoepfully improve
Cosmic, he's only a bit over 1 and having his adenoids removed! WOW! they are making me wait on Liam's tonsils and adenoids till 4 years old (august 2010) (which take up 75%) of the back of his throat..

good luck on aidan's tubes!

D

I know that recovery from the tonsils is rough and Aidan does not have any issues with his tonsils,maybe that's why they'd rather wait? The ENT and the pediatrician both felt that the enlarged adenoids are restricting his airway and probably exacerbating his asthma, which is largely illness induced. I like our ENT a lot; while this is my first personal experience with him, I've had several families I've worked with who were very happy with him. This is my first experience with this kind of thing though, my other 2 never had these issues.

fuzzbucket 01-11-2010 02:50 PM

We had Harry checked again today. The meds were not working and he was still in a lot of pain. We are trying cefdinir. Crossing fingers that he starts to feel better. If this doesn't work, we move on to injections and barring that, surgery to drain his right ear. Poor thing is miserable.

Nate is doing OK, but will not take the amoxicillian very well. It's so frustrating.

DarkAngel 01-11-2010 06:23 PM

Fuzzbucket, Marielle recommended garlic mullein oil for us back when Alexander had frequent ear infections. It helped with the pain.

PixieCurl 01-11-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkAngel (Post 1222150)
Fuzzbucket, Marielle recommended garlic mullein oil for us back when Alexander had frequent ear infections. It helped with the pain.

Yes, we use this too. And breastmilk in the ear.

fuzzbucket 01-12-2010 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PixieCurl (Post 1222262)
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel (Post 1222150)
Fuzzbucket, Marielle recommended garlic mullein oil for us back when Alexander had frequent ear infections. It helped with the pain.

Yes, we use this too. And breastmilk in the ear.

I was just about to google breastmilk in the ear! We have plenty of that!

marielle448 01-12-2010 10:40 AM

Poor kid - yeah the mullein oil preparations work for the pain since mullein is a mild analgesic. I know it works since I've seen it work on the baby (for ear pain, not infection) but also on my husband who after removal of his wisdom teeth is prone to ear/vertigo issues. Haven't read all the posts but also warm heat at the base of the ear should help. (you can make a quickie rice pack by filling a kid's sock with rice and tying a knot then microwaving it for about 30 seconds to a minute).


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