Finally made the decision...

mad scientist - I'm from the UK originally, I don't think it's routinely done over there but it's not something I ever really thought about as I didn't have children then and like I said, I thought it was only a Jewish thing. I remember telling my mum about my friend being upset about her son and the first thing she said to me was "Oh, are they Jewish?" So obviously not something she'd come across either.

RCW - Hmm, I would have to say I do have a problem with it. While I have no religious beliefs myself I do try to respect other peoples. Pretty hard though sometimes.
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I don't think the Canadian health system covers circumcision unless it's for a medical reason...which we all know is almost-never medically necessary. I think Americans would suddenly stop amputating their sons' foreskins if they had to pay for it themselves out of their own pockets. Money talks.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
You're right - unless it is medically necessary, it is paid for out of pocket by the parents.

I know the rates of circumsion are low here in Canada, but I am the only one amongst my friends who has not had her son circ'd. It's not really something we discuss. It doesn't impact me one bit if my best friend circumsized her son...nor does it impact her that my son is not circumsized.
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It doesn't impact me one bit if my best friend circumsized her son...nor does it impact her that my son is not circumsized.
Originally Posted by curly_keltie


Why would routine-infant-circumcision impact women friends? Did someone say it did?

It does impact the lives of boys and men though.
So glad you were able to make your hubby see the light.

At one point in Canada, it was paid for and standard procedure. I bucked convention when I made the decision to spare my son the trauma, at the ripe ol' age of 2 days, of being strapped to a seat and IMO mutilated without sedation. Thankfully my husband agreed. The nurses were NOT impressed with my decision.

He is almost 20 and has no residual issues as a result of my decision. I don't believe he's become an outcast in gym class or with women either.
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It doesn't impact me one bit if my best friend circumsized her son...nor does it impact her that my son is not circumsized.
Originally Posted by curly_keltie


Why would routine-infant-circumcision impact women friends? Did someone say it did?

It does impact the lives of boys and men though.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Oh no, I didn't mean to imply anyone here said it impacted women friends. I have just heard of people getting so heated about it that it had ruined friendships.

On kind of a funny note - my brother's birth, in 1979, was noted on his file as 'abnormal' because his foreskin was so tight that he required a circumcision. As his older sister, it was just fun to tease him (in our teen years) that he was an 'abnormal baby'.
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We didn't circumsize our older boys at birth and unfortunately my oldest foreskin never separated and he got an infection when he was 2 1/2. We had to either have it probed which sounded horrible or go ahead and have the surgery. We chose the latter and it was not fun having it done at that age. I wish we would have just had it taken care of at birth but thats just me. Something to think about though. I also have a friend who's husband had to be circumsized when he was 6 for the same reason. Ugh.
One more thing, its not such a traumatic procedure anymore at least it wasn't for my 3 year old and my newbown. My 3 year old slept through it. He was numbed and given a bottle of sugar water. The numbing is fairly new I guess. Not sure why it took so long for dr.'s to figure it having skin cut off your penis might hurt. Just thought I would add that. I understand not wanting to cause your baby pain. I still cry when they get shots.
We didn't circumsize our older boys at birth and unfortunately my oldest foreskin never separated and he got an infection when he was 2 1/2. We had to either have it probed which sounded horrible or go ahead and have the surgery. We chose the latter and it was not fun having it done at that age. I wish we would have just had it taken care of at birth but thats just me. Something to think about though. I also have a friend who's husband had to be circumsized when he was 6 for the same reason. Ugh.
Originally Posted by poisonivy

The foreskin is not supposed to be separated at 2 years old, or even at 6 years old. Sounds like someone was forcing the separation before it was ready to happen on it's own. Doing so prematurely causes problems...infections, adhesions, rips, tears, phimosis, etc. Ignorant doctors are notorious for trying to retract the foreskin and causing these complications. I had to physically stop a doctor from doing it to my son at a routine well-baby check. The only person who should be retracting the foreskin is the owner.
The foreskin is not supposed to be separated at 2 years old, or even at 6 years old. Sounds like someone was forcing the separation before it was ready to happen on it's own. Doing so prematurely causes problems...infections, adhesions, rips, tears, phimosis, etc. Ignorant doctors are notorious for trying to retract the foreskin and causing these complications. I had to physically stop a doctor from doing it to my son at a routine well-baby check. The only person who should be retracting the foreskin is the owner.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
This is interesting. I see so many parallels between breastfeeding and non-circing in North America. We don't know how to BF and we don't know how to care for our baby boy's penises. So many more "complications" occur here that don't seem to occur in places where these are parts of parenting that are taught through the generations.

All the men and boys in my family and DH's are not circ'd (most of them are abroad) and I've only ever heard of one case of an adult circumcision and that was in a young man with Down's syndrome and most likely a hygiene issue. Complications aren't commonplace (and we're open about this kind of stuff). But I've heard of quite a few complications from local people here.


We didn't circumsize our older boys at birth and unfortunately my oldest foreskin never separated and he got an infection when he was 2 1/2. We had to either have it probed which sounded horrible or go ahead and have the surgery. We chose the latter and it was not fun having it done at that age. I wish we would have just had it taken care of at birth but thats just me. Something to think about though. I also have a friend who's husband had to be circumsized when he was 6 for the same reason. Ugh.
Originally Posted by poisonivy

The foreskin is not supposed to be separated at 2 years old, or even at 6 years old. Sounds like someone was forcing the separation before it was ready to happen on it's own. Doing so prematurely causes problems...infections, adhesions, rips, tears, phimosis, etc. Ignorant doctors are notorious for trying to retract the foreskin and causing these complications. I had to physically stop a doctor from doing it to my son at a routine well-baby check. The only person who should be retracting the foreskin is the owner.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
I know what you are talking about because my 3 year old ,who was circumsized at birth, a couple of times the dr. pulled the skin apart as it began to re-attach. But nobody ever did that to my oldest. Its been 14 years but I do remember the doctor saying the foreskin should separate around 18 months. First kid, who knew.

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