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Old 08-25-2013, 10:43 AM   #1
 
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Default Drugstore protein shampoo?

I have no idea what to use as a protein shampoo, low poo, sulfate free etc... I'm on a budget
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:16 PM   #2
 
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Do you know that you need a protein shampoo? I have found that for me personally, despite my aversion to heavily scented products, that most of the VO5 conditioners are ideal for co-washing my hair, and they are dirt cheap (under $1 at most stores - CVS is the only place I've consistently seen them marked higher than $1). Most of them do have some protein. My hair seems to love protein but other people have issues with using too much.

There are a ton of sulfate free shampoos out there now.. and this is one thing that I am personally not afraid to spend a little more on because I use so little of it (I don't shampoo regularly any more). So I'm okay justifying spending $10-20 on a bottle of shampoo while I definitely would not ever consider that much for a co-wash or even a rinse out because I go through so much of each of those.
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:24 PM   #3
 
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I like the nice & curly sulfate free shampoo. Be aware it has a silicone in it. I got this when I first went modified cg & didn't know your shampoos has to be sulfate/silicone free. But if you don't mind silicones, then feel free. It's around $5. You should be able to get it at Walgreens. But when in done with this, I will find a silicone free sulfate free shampoo.
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:30 PM   #4
 
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Giovanni Smooth as Silk I believe has protein but honestly I'm not sure that protein in a lowpoo makes that much of a difference... I think the most important thing is to make sure it's not stripping and it doesn't contain anything that can build up (ESP for low porosity hair). I rotate tons of low-poos and I really like G 50:50 and YesToCucumbers. SM C&h is very gentle but has the potential to build up on some bc of the butters/oils.
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:05 PM   #5
 
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Protein can be absorbed from shampoo Proteins: Why You Should Care

I'd just get some Colorful neutral protein filler and add it to a shampoo of my choice, then you can control the amount.
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Old 08-27-2013, 03:44 PM   #6
 
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"Hydrolyzed proteins penetrate the cuticle and absorb into the cortex of the hair. Research has shown that as much as 30-50% of the protein found in shampoos is absorbed and retained by the hair. The percentage is even higher in conditioning products due to the absence of cleansing surfactants. This protein absorption has been found to increase the strength and elasticity of hair fibers."

Interesting. I always assumed the shampoo isn't in your hair long enough to make a huge difference. If you're following the CG method of shampooing you're only shampooing the scalp and letting the suds fall down through your length. Maybe there's some adsorption but not absorption of the protein. I guess more protein can never hurt even in shampoos for fine and porous types.
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Cowash: CJ Daily Fix
Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni 2chic BK&AO
RO: TN Radiant Care, Giovanni SaS, Ogx BKT*, Sukin Nourishing, SS Caitlin's, various
LI: sometimes TN Radiant Care
Styler: FSG with CNPF, CJ Pattern Pusha, Volumax Mega, Ouidad Climate Control*, Ogx BKT serum*
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Old 09-03-2013, 09:31 AM   #7
 
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"Hydrolyzed proteins penetrate the cuticle and absorb into the cortex of the hair. Research has shown that as much as 30-50% of the protein found in shampoos is absorbed and retained by the hair. The percentage is even higher in conditioning products due to the absence of cleansing surfactants. This protein absorption has been found to increase the strength and elasticity of hair fibers."

Interesting. I always assumed the shampoo isn't in your hair long enough to make a huge difference. If you're following the CG method of shampooing you're only shampooing the scalp and letting the suds fall down through your length. Maybe there's some adsorption but not absorption of the protein. I guess more protein can never hurt even in shampoos for fine and porous types.
I suspect it's because most commercial type shampoos will raise the cuticle. Similar to how shampoo can help coconut oil penetrate the hair. Do also bear in mind that is likely to be a high percentage of not much, a conditioner is likely to contain more protein. But, yes, it might well be different if you are using super gentle CG type cleansers or really concentrating on the roots.

More here on protein penetrating
THE NATURAL HAVEN: Deep Conditioning : What Ingredients in Hair Conditioner Penetrate Hair?
http://journal.scconline.org/pdf/cc2...193-p00203.pdf
The use of radiolabelling techniques to mea... [Int J Cosmet Sci. 1997] - PubMed - NCBI

Complicating matters there are also penetration enhancers, and modified hydrolysed protein molecules that become more substantive/ penetrating.
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CO-wash: Inecto coconut
Treatments: Komaza Matani, coconut oil, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss ultimate volume, Inecto argan
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
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Old 09-03-2013, 11:39 AM   #8
 
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Renpure Keratin and Giovanni Smooth as Silk are both decent sulfate-free options for protein shampoos.
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