Contradicting Needs?

Ooh la la, new forum! Time to ask something that's been nagging at me.

What does one do when their hair has contradicting needs? Like, the hair is pretty highly porous, but is also very coarse? Do they just suck it up and hope that the damage goes away? I'm so curious!
Hair Type: 3a, iii, fine, medium porosity, normal elasticity

No-Poo: Suave Naturals
Leave-in: Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition
Gel: KCCC
and...: Jane Carter: Nourish & Shine to help SOTC

Fotki: http://public.fotki.com/renabanana/
Password: sonic
I excited about this forum too.

I would not say those two things are contrasting. You are porous and course.

That is your hair and there is no short answer, you have to keep trying products that work. One by one. It is a long process but it does work if you stay with it.
3A, Protein Senitive, Low Porosity,
Med-Course
Wash: Suave Naturals Conds (excluding Coconut), CVSB
Rinse out/Leave In: GVP Cond. Balm, KCKT,
Style: Naturelle Gel(winter HG), KCCC (summer HG), Flaxseed gel
SOTC: JCNS
Love your hair: Love yourself!
Whoops, I forgot to specify that I'm specifically talking about protein here...Isn't it the case that more porous hair needs protein, but coarse hair doesn't like protein?
Hair Type: 3a, iii, fine, medium porosity, normal elasticity

No-Poo: Suave Naturals
Leave-in: Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition
Gel: KCCC
and...: Jane Carter: Nourish & Shine to help SOTC

Fotki: http://public.fotki.com/renabanana/
Password: sonic
Yes, it can contrast. Porous hair can need protein to fill in the damaged spots. But, coarse hair often contains something called a medulla than fine hair does not have.

With this, you will have to find your own balance of when and what types of protein your hair needs. I'm coarse and porous. The only protein I tolerate really well is keratin. Others react poorly to it. I have the worst reaction to wheat protein, though other love it.

I do find that my protein tolerance changes with the season. I don't use it in the winter, and I can use more of it in the summer, probably because my coarse hair needs more focus on moisture in the cold dry months.

I also need more right after I color, since color pokes holes in the cortex, increasing porosity.

If your hair feels mushy, stretchy, and seems somehow more tangly than normal, you may need protein.

If your hair feels like brittle straw, you have too much.

This article may help some too.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.

Last edited by redcelticcurls; 05-30-2010 at 01:41 AM.
awesome, thanks for the info! I tried clicking the link and it doesn't seem to be working though...
Hair Type: 3a, iii, fine, medium porosity, normal elasticity

No-Poo: Suave Naturals
Leave-in: Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition
Gel: KCCC
and...: Jane Carter: Nourish & Shine to help SOTC

Fotki: http://public.fotki.com/renabanana/
Password: sonic
Sorry 'bout that! I fixed the link.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
ahhh thank you! I'm going to definitely read this tomorrow and possibly come back if I have more questions, lol.

edit: By the way, I've been secretly admiring your curls since before I actually registered for this site. They're so sososo pretty!
Hair Type: 3a, iii, fine, medium porosity, normal elasticity

No-Poo: Suave Naturals
Leave-in: Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition
Gel: KCCC
and...: Jane Carter: Nourish & Shine to help SOTC

Fotki: http://public.fotki.com/renabanana/
Password: sonic
It might also be the kind of protein.

My hair hates Soy and Wheat

But it likes Yeast, Collagen, Keratin (sp?), and Silk

I'm on the fence with Oat

So really you need to find out what your hair likes incase you need some protein.

BTW RCC I have to say thanks I used the GVP Reconstructor you posted about awhile ago because my curls were getting really "mushy" and it helped a lot.
My curls are a contradiction. I'm fine and very porous which you would think would love tons of protein but my hair is pretty sensitive to protein. It's weird because when I do use any protein my curls actually become more defined and tighter but they also feel very dry, hard and look dull. So it's like my curls need protein but don't really like it. I know confusing.
Like RCC, my hair seems to tolerate keratin ok. I have the GVP reconstructor and have gotten decent results with it, except my hair is not crazy about the oil in it. Yes, my hair is also sensitive to oils. Sigh.
3b/c fine, thick, porous, protein sensitive
Modified CG, CJ Rehab, JCWDT, KCKT, VO5 Chamomile Tea Therapy, CJDF, HEBE Gel/Mousse, Bioinfusion Rosemary Mint shampoo, occasional protein

Experimenting with BRHG

"If you want the rainbow, you've gotta put up with the rain"

Last edited by Magoo; 06-06-2010 at 05:17 AM.
I still can't figure out my hairs' porosity. When I run my fingers up a strand of hair it makes a loud squeaking sound and feels a little rough but I think that's because my hair is coarse? Argh!
Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

rinse out: GVP Conditioning Balm, CJ Repair Me, CJ Smoothing

jellies/creams: CR Curl Maker, KCCC, UFD Curly Magic
gels: CJ CQ, BRHG

I still can't figure out my hairs' porosity. When I run my fingers up a strand of hair it makes a loud squeaking sound and feels a little rough but I think that's because my hair is coarse? Argh!
Originally Posted by asianrunner
I have fine hair, and it does the same thing-- squeaks and feels slightly rough when I run my thumb and pointer finger up a strand. And since my hair is fine, it craves protein and hates moisuture/humectants. So in humidity, I'm usually stuck with a little frizz.

Here's link that may help you figure out your hair porosity: http://www.livecurlylivefree.com/cur...r%20basics.htm

I don't process my hair so it's hard for me to figure out my hair porosity according to this article, and because my hair is fine, I don't know if it's dry b/c it's fine or b/c of its porosity. I think I read somewhere that if your hair takes a long time to get wet in the shower, it's low porosity--this is me. But doing the strand test that I mentioned earlier that made my hair squeak, I'd say I'm low to normal porosity.
Tip: Do the strand test on 10 different strands or so from all around your head.
Low/Med porosity, very fine, low/med elasticity & density, 3A
AKA hard to work with hair!


Low-Poo: Kenra Volumizing shampoo, AG Fast Food shampoo
CO: AG Ultramoist, AO GPB, Nature's Gate Aloe Vera
Gel: GFCC mousse, HETT, Aquage Megagel
Also: Aloe Vera juice or Alba Leave-in. Weekly ACV rinse.
Wishlist: YTC low-poo, Elucence poo, Bioterra Curl Creme, AGEbeautiful Strengthening trtment, SS Repairing Protein Trtment, LuxyHair ext's

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