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Old 06-24-2010, 06:43 PM   #1
 
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Default Very coarse, low elasticity, high porosity

Hi there, I was wondering if anyone can help my mom out. Her hair is EXTREMELY coarse, porous, and straw like. I'm not sure exactly what to do here...Does she need tons of protein? Or tons of moisture? Both?
If she needs protein, does anyone have similar hair to her who might know what type of protein would work well? Or at least what kind might react badly?

Thanks for any help you might be able to give <3
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:55 PM   #2
 
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Hi! If she truly is coarse, she should stay away from protein! and use more moisturizers, humectants, and butters.

protein and coarse hair is not good. Coarse hair makes enough protein on it's own.

Hope that helps!
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Old 06-25-2010, 06:24 AM   #3
 
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Hi! If she truly is coarse, she should stay away from protein! and use more moisturizers, humectants, and butters.

protein and coarse hair is not good. Coarse hair makes enough protein on it's own.

Hope that helps!
Cosign. What does she do to it on a daily basis, btw?
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:26 AM   #4
 
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I'm a stylist....I don't think she's truly a coarsey chick. I think she has some damage from chemically treating and also it looks like she heat styles too. Let me know if those things aren't true and I'll change what I'm about to say.

If she does chemically treat, especially highlighting (or former highlights like it looks she has) she's going to need protein AND moisture. If she's coarse but low elasticity and high porosity it's usually due to the chemicals and heat styling. Depending on if you want on ground things or online things I can recommend different products. My fave products are online. I rarely get anything onground anymore. I do like Joico KPac for protein and Biolage conditioning balm for moisture. Both can be bought on ground from salons, or you can go to Sallys and get the generics of both. She would need to start with the protein and follow with the moisture. Whether a certain protein bothers you or not is more of a trial and error thing unfortunately. HTH!
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:32 AM   #5
 
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A little more.....

I thought I was coarse for a long time, but I'm actually fine haired. If I hold a hair in my hand and close my eyes a lot of the time I think I dropped the hair when I didn't. Coarse hair will feel like dental floss thick, medium like sewing thread, and fine hair smaller than that. You can have fine or medium hair that looks like coarse hair due to damage.

Also forgot my fave online proteins and moistures....Curl Junkie is a favorite line of mine, I like the Hibiscus banana dt, the rehab for moisture, and the Curl Fix for protein. I also like Spiral Solutions protein repairing treatment and deeply decadent moisturizer. Spiral solutions also has a protein spray, but until she sees how her hair will react she may want to stay away from it. My hair LURVES protein like nothing else, but I'm still careful. Also, as long as you follow with moisture after protein it usually takes care of the crunchies, though there are some out there that are truly protein sensitive. Here is a post I did as a primer on protein treatments and moisture treatments.

A few tips on treatments for newbies and not so newbies too
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Thanks everyone for the replies!

Yes, she does straighten her hair almost everyday (eek!), and colors her roots every 4-6 weeks. So there is quite a bit of damage going on here. She currently is not CG and uses Dove shampoo and conditioner. We're about to change that though.

rymorg: Thank you so much for all of that info! We already have the GVP Conditioning Balm, but I'm gonna run out in about an hour to grab the general thing for the Joico KPak. If this goes well, then I'm sure she'd be willing to order things online. I have a question about the process of applying the treatments. I get that she should cleanse her hair, apply the protein treatment, rinse, apply the moisture treatment, and rinse. After this though, does she need to go back and CO wash or add a leave in conditioner or anything? Or should she leave enough of the DT in her hair to act as a leave in?

Thanks again!
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Thanks everyone for the replies!

Yes, she does straighten her hair almost everyday (eek!), and colors her roots every 4-6 weeks. So there is quite a bit of damage going on here. She currently is not CG and uses Dove shampoo and conditioner. We're about to change that though.

rymorg: Thank you so much for all of that info! We already have the GVP Conditioning Balm, but I'm gonna run out in about an hour to grab the general thing for the Joico KPak. If this goes well, then I'm sure she'd be willing to order things online. I have a question about the process of applying the treatments. I get that she should cleanse her hair, apply the protein treatment, rinse, apply the moisture treatment, and rinse. After this though, does she need to go back and CO wash or add a leave in conditioner or anything? Or should she leave enough of the DT in her hair to act as a leave in?

Thanks again!

Oh you're quite welcome! As for the CO wash I don't think she'll need it. I wash first, then treatments, but I don't CO wash other than with cleansing conditioners that I buy like CJDFCC or Low poo. She can absolutely either leave in some condish or add a LI if she needs to. Glad I could help!

Forgot to add: be sure to blot in between each of the treatments so she gets the most benefit from them! When I do treatments I do this:


Cleanse, blot, apply PT, leave on, rinse, blot again, apply DT for moisture, leave on, rinse, and styling products.
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