Hidden Proteins

I've been trying to determine if I'm protein sensitive (I think it's likely) and I realized I'm not even sure how to tell what is and isn't protein free from the ingredients. Aside from the word "protein," what are you supposed to watch out for?

Also, I know Giovanni products are a problem for a lot of people, but is it ALL of them? I don't see anything proteiny in their 50:50 conditioner, for instance. Wondering if I'm missing something though.

Hey, unrelated, but I already started a thread so I might as well consolidate... Are there certain types of oils that are sometimes better or worse for protein sensitivity?
I've used 50:50 and had no problem. I looked at the label and saw no proteins. I've learned from this site, that oils are oil and do not contain protein.

Regarding names of proteins, do a search, there is a list of ingredent names that are all proteins.
3A, Protein Senitive, Low Porosity,
Med-Course
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Rinse out/Leave In: GVP Cond. Balm, KCKT,
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Cocodimonium hydroxypropyl hydrolyzed casein
Cocodimonium hydroxypropyl hydrolyzed collagen
Cocodimonium hydroxypropyl hydrolyzed hair keratin
Cocodimonium hydroxypropyl hydrolyzed keratin
Cocodimonium hydroxypropyl hydrolyzed rice protein
Cocodimonium hydroxypropyl hydrolyzed silk
Cocodimonium hydroxypropyl hydrolyzed soy protein
Cocodimonium hydroxypropyl hydrolyzed wheat protein
Cocodimonium hydroxypropyl silk amino acids
Cocoyl hydrolyzed collagen
Cocoyl hydrolyzed keratin
Hydrolyzed keratin
Hydrolyzed oat flour
Hydrolyzed silk
Hydrolyzed silk protein
Hydrolyzed soy protein
Hydrolyzed wheat protein
Hydrolyzed wheat protein
Keratin
Potassium cocoyl hydrolyzed collagen
TEA-cocoyl hydrolyzed collagen
TEA-cocoyl hydrolyzed soy protein
3A, Protein Senitive, Low Porosity,
Med-Course
Wash: Suave Naturals Conds (excluding Coconut), CVSB
Rinse out/Leave In: GVP Cond. Balm, KCKT,
Style: Naturelle Gel(winter HG), KCCC (summer HG), Flaxseed gel
SOTC: JCNS
Love your hair: Love yourself!
Thank you SO much! That 50:50 conditioner was literally the only thing I had left after my protein purge and I was panicking a bit.

I have to agree with you, it seems counterintuitive that any pure oil would be a problem. But then I keep seeing people mentioning that certain oils can have protein in them... Not sure what to think about that. I'm guessing they're probably fine, but I wish I were sure.
Thank you SO much! That 50:50 conditioner was literally the only thing I had left after my protein purge and I was panicking a bit.

I have to agree with you, it seems counterintuitive that any pure oil would be a problem. But then I keep seeing people mentioning that certain oils can have protein in them... Not sure what to think about that. I'm guessing they're probably fine, but I wish I were sure.
Originally Posted by Malkah

I know that is why I'm staying clear of avacado oil, but who knows. I can tell you I use Sweet Almond oil. Also check out link below.


http://healthycurls.awardspace.com/free.html
3A, Protein Senitive, Low Porosity,
Med-Course
Wash: Suave Naturals Conds (excluding Coconut), CVSB
Rinse out/Leave In: GVP Cond. Balm, KCKT,
Style: Naturelle Gel(winter HG), KCCC (summer HG), Flaxseed gel
SOTC: JCNS
Love your hair: Love yourself!
I'm completely the opposite of protein sensitive, but I'm just curious about you protein sensitive folks...what happens to your curls if you use something with protein in it?
Low/Med porosity, very fine, low/med elasticity & density, 3A
AKA hard to work with hair!


Low-Poo: Kenra Volumizing shampoo, AG Fast Food shampoo
CO: AG Ultramoist, AO GPB, Nature's Gate Aloe Vera
Gel: GFCC mousse, HETT, Aquage Megagel
Also: Aloe Vera juice or Alba Leave-in. Weekly ACV rinse.
Wishlist: YTC low-poo, Elucence poo, Bioterra Curl Creme, AGEbeautiful Strengthening trtment, SS Repairing Protein Trtment, LuxyHair ext's
Thank you SO much! That 50:50 conditioner was literally the only thing I had left after my protein purge and I was panicking a bit.

I have to agree with you, it seems counterintuitive that any pure oil would be a problem. But then I keep seeing people mentioning that certain oils can have protein in them... Not sure what to think about that. I'm guessing they're probably fine, but I wish I were sure.
Originally Posted by Malkah
Oils, by nature, are 100% fat, with no protein. You can see this by looking at the nutrition label of any oil you have in your house.

That being said jojoba oil is technically a liquid wax and can give some people problems.

With coconut oil, there is debate on its properties concerning protein retention in hair. I do tend to feel proteiny with it, so I avoid it.

Also, plant extracts can be an overlooked source of proteins to those sensitive to the specific proteins of that plant. All plants contain some protein, though it may be a small amount. So, unless you are using the plant oil, you may get some protein. Hops is an example of a plant extract that feels proteiny on some people.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.

Last edited by redcelticcurls; 08-03-2010 at 11:33 AM.
I'm completely the opposite of protein sensitive, but I'm just curious about you protein sensitive folks...what happens to your curls if you use something with protein in it?
Originally Posted by CurlyCowgirly
It feels like straw: brittle, hard, crunchy, crispy. In extreme cases, it can be so brittle that it breaks off. An OD can make hair looks straighter, while too little protein can make curls look droopy.

Here is an example of too little, too much, and just right on my own hair.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
Wow, thanks for all the information!

I'm not sure if it's the same for everyone, but I was noticing that my hair was getting more and more crunchy and brittle. Also more unruly than usual. I get the feeling I'm not as protein sensitive as some are, because it took a little time for the effect to build up.

On jojoba oil--When I use too much of it my hair gets all limp and greasy, but it seems healthy, limp and greasy, for whatever that's worth. lol I JUST bought some coconut oil to try out, so I hope that one agrees with me.

It sounds like it's just going to be a lot of trial and error with all the plant extracts. It seems to be nearly impossible to avoid them altogether.
Wow, thanks for all the information!

I'm not sure if it's the same for everyone, but I was noticing that my hair was getting more and more crunchy and brittle. Also more unruly than usual. I get the feeling I'm not as protein sensitive as some are, because it took a little time for the effect to build up.

On jojoba oil--When I use too much of it my hair gets all limp and greasy, but it seems healthy, limp and greasy, for whatever that's worth. lol I JUST bought some coconut oil to try out, so I hope that one agrees with me.

It sounds like it's just going to be a lot of trial and error with all the plant extracts. It seems to be nearly impossible to avoid them altogether.
Originally Posted by Malkah
Very, very true.

It's a PITA until you find what works. It's nice after that, though.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
I'm completely the opposite of protein sensitive, but I'm just curious about you protein sensitive folks...what happens to your curls if you use something with protein in it?
Originally Posted by CurlyCowgirly
It feels like straw: brittle, hard, crunchy, crispy. In extreme cases, it can be so brittle that it breaks off. An OD can make hair looks straighter, while too little protein can make curls look droopy.

Here is an example of too little, too much, and just right on my own hair.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
Wow! Thank you..very informative article. The image that shows how your hair gets with too much protein is what my hair looks like when I give it only moisture & no protein. Two ends of the spectrum!
That's also interesting that your hair can handle certain proteins and not others.
Thanks for sharing!
Low/Med porosity, very fine, low/med elasticity & density, 3A
AKA hard to work with hair!


Low-Poo: Kenra Volumizing shampoo, AG Fast Food shampoo
CO: AG Ultramoist, AO GPB, Nature's Gate Aloe Vera
Gel: GFCC mousse, HETT, Aquage Megagel
Also: Aloe Vera juice or Alba Leave-in. Weekly ACV rinse.
Wishlist: YTC low-poo, Elucence poo, Bioterra Curl Creme, AGEbeautiful Strengthening trtment, SS Repairing Protein Trtment, LuxyHair ext's
I'm completely the opposite of protein sensitive, but I'm just curious about you protein sensitive folks...what happens to your curls if you use something with protein in it?
Originally Posted by CurlyCowgirly
If I overdo it on the protein my hair gets extremely hard and brittle. I can't even get a comb through it. I'm one of the curlies who has to balance moisture products with protein products. I can't have too much of either.
3a/3b, Fine, low porosity.

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