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Old 03-28-2012, 05:32 AM   #21
 
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Thanks. I have some co-ops/health food stores near me so I will look for it

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I thought the Desert Essences conditioner was really light, but I only tried the Italian Red Grape.


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Old 03-29-2012, 10:29 AM   #22
 
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I just tried the new Renpure Organics Argan Oil conditioner this morning after hearing it mentioned as a possible GFTN replacement. Good slip, good moisture, no protein.

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Old 03-31-2012, 09:05 AM   #23
 
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I am intrigued by the Renpure conditioners. Not like I need any more since I already have a ton!
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:01 PM   #24
 
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Cool! I will add it to the list of products I need to try lol

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I just tried the new Renpure Organics Argan Oil conditioner this morning after hearing it mentioned as a possible GFTN replacement. Good slip, good moisture, no protein.

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One day I will try it. It sounds great and I like the ingredients.
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What about honey? I have some at home & I want to try and use it as a conditioner

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Old 04-22-2012, 07:55 PM   #27
 
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How do you know if your hair is sensitive to protein?

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Old 05-08-2012, 09:31 AM   #28
 
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Hair is protein sensitive if it gets dry/brittle when you use any hair products with protein in them. I discovered I was protein sensitive when I used a conditioner that was supposed to be moisturizing and realized that the conditioner had protein in it. It left my hair Super dry and brittle. I kept thinking to myself a conditioner isn't supposed to do that smh
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:05 PM   #29
 
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The Shea Moisture Raw Shea Butter line (yellow line) is protein free.

I use the Raw Shea Butter Retention shampoo every 2 months.
I cowash with the Raw Shea Butter Restorative conditiner, cool rinse, then I use Herbal Essences Hello Hydration as a detangler/rinse out. Finally I apply the Raw Shea Butter Restorative conditioner as a leave in and seal with coconut oil. This kept my hair so soft an fluffy.

I wish there was a list of the Protein sensitive products for shampoo, conditioner, moisturizers, sealers.
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Very helpful...I was wondering this last night after reading this thread, "aren't Shea butter, coconut oil, and other oils protein sources?" Thank You for clarifying. My hair loves Pure Shea Butter, my hair adores Extra Virgin coconut oil, but I believe wheat germ oil and soy bean oil are either too strong or too much in the product. I had purchased so many Carol's Daughter products only to find it was not benefiting me, I would still have unmanageable dry hair after spraying Black Vanilla leave in. The Tui leave in, did help some with detangling. And the Tui Smoothie was just awful. My relaxed hair loved Silk Fusion (Smooth N' Shine), but I have not seen any great results when I recently used it. I am going to eventually figure this out...
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Oyin handmade and Shea moisture do contain proteins. Be aware that there are natural sources of protein. Coconut oil, avocado oil, Wheat germ oil, hemp seed oil all are huge sources of protein. Go to mountainroseherbs.com and look at the information about each oil. You can also look up any oil you are interested in individually on google. Finding products with no protein in non-natural products is easy because you just look for key words like "protein" "hydrolyzed" etc. In natural products, it requires a bit of knowledge in order to choose because you have to know which ingredients are natural sources of protein. The natural ones are less potent because they are not specifically designed for the hair shaft however, if your hair is VERY sensitive like mine, then you should be careful about the protein regardless of the source.

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Very helpful...I was wondering this last night after reading this thread, "aren't Shea butter, coconut oil, and other oils protein sources?" Thank You for clarifying. My hair loves Pure Shea Butter, my hair adores Extra Virgin coconut oil, but I believe wheat germ oil and soy bean oil are either too strong or too much in the product. I had purchased so many Carol's Daughter products only to find it was not benefiting me, I would still have unmanageable dry hair after spraying Black Vanilla leave in. The Tui leave in, did help some with detangling. And the Tui Smoothie was just awful. My relaxed hair loved Silk Fusion (Smooth N' Shine), but I have not seen any great results when I recently used it. I am going to eventually figure this out...
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:30 PM   #32
 
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Giovanni has protein. I can't use the shampoo or the leave in. I only use the conditioner, but a good conditioner is dessert essence coconut conditioner

Wish I could use it, Sista... (DE Coco). I am puzzled about coconut, as I am protein sensitive and my hair LOVES my twice monthly deep infusions of pure, virgin coconut oil. (Which I now know has protein in it?) But when I tried the Desert Essences coconut products, my hair looked like I had shoved my finger in an electric socket - and I have really fine 2C hair! lol! It was frizzing and waving and wiring - dancing on its own...and not in a good way! I so wanted to love the Desert Essences, but no...I can't go around looking like I stepped out of a tornado...lol!

Any idea why coconut oil might be ok, but none of the other coconut products, anyone? I once tried to add coconut milk to my coco oil treatment, with much regret...I guess just TOO much protein?
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My hair is very protein sensitive and it has been very tough to find products my hair tolerates and/or likes. These are the products I use right now..

Shea Moisture Moisture Shampoo (it has AVJ but my hair's ok with it)
Dr. Bronner's Tea Tree Soap
Bioinfusion Hydrating Balm
Qhemet Detangling Ghee
Emu Oil (i just added this because my hair LOVES this oil)

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Old 10-25-2012, 12:00 AM   #34
 
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I thought the Desert Essences conditioner was really light, but I only tried the Italian Red Grape.
Everytime I use the Italian red grape conditioner I'm angry combing my hair....when i use the coconut conditioner I easily comb through my hair. What a difference. I was just comparing the ingredients in the two earlier today. Wondering if, besides the protein, the potassium glutamate or something else had anything to do with the totally different result of the two.

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Giovanni has protein. I can't use the shampoo or the leave in. I only use the conditioner, but a good conditioner is dessert essence coconut conditioner

Wish I could use it, Sista... (DE Coco). I am puzzled about coconut, as I am protein sensitive and my hair LOVES my twice monthly deep infusions of pure, virgin coconut oil. (Which I now know has protein in it?) But when I tried the Desert Essences coconut products, my hair looked like I had shoved my finger in an electric socket - and I have really fine 2C hair! lol! It was frizzing and waving and wiring - dancing on its own...and not in a good way! I so wanted to love the Desert Essences, but no...I can't go around looking like I stepped out of a tornado...lol!

Any idea why coconut oil might be ok, but none of the other coconut products, anyone? I once tried to add coconut milk to my coco oil treatment, with much regret...I guess just TOO much protein?

Coconut actually isn't a protein, though it may act as a protein for some, because it helps slow down protein loss in hair. However, coconut cream and coconut milk does contain protein, but the oil does not. Also, sometimes it's not what certain ingredient is in a product that really affects hair, but how much of it is in it and what combination it is used in. Some conditioners can have protein that can be really low in the ingredient list or the moisturizing ingredients outweighs the protein effects or balances it. Just saying.
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So true b/c my hair hates protein treatments and some stylers and conditioners but I have a shampoo with silk powder and hydrolyzed soy protein that my hair really likes. The moisturizing ingredients come before the proteins in the list.

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Giovanni has protein. I can't use the shampoo or the leave in. I only use the conditioner, but a good conditioner is dessert essence coconut conditioner

Wish I could use it, Sista... (DE Coco). I am puzzled about coconut, as I am protein sensitive and my hair LOVES my twice monthly deep infusions of pure, virgin coconut oil. (Which I now know has protein in it?) But when I tried the Desert Essences coconut products, my hair looked like I had shoved my finger in an electric socket - and I have really fine 2C hair! lol! It was frizzing and waving and wiring - dancing on its own...and not in a good way! I so wanted to love the Desert Essences, but no...I can't go around looking like I stepped out of a tornado...lol!

Any idea why coconut oil might be ok, but none of the other coconut products, anyone? I once tried to add coconut milk to my coco oil treatment, with much regret...I guess just TOO much protein?

Coconut actually isn't a protein, though it may act as a protein for some, because it helps slow down protein loss in hair. However, coconut cream and coconut milk does contain protein, but the oil does not. Also, sometimes it's not what certain ingredient is in a product that really affects hair, but how much of it is in it and what combination it is used in. Some conditioners can have protein that can be really low in the ingredient list or the moisturizing ingredients outweighs the protein effects or balances it. Just saying.


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