Colored but hates protein?

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I have been coloring my wavy hair (see sig for details) since I was 21 due to premature greying - probably 30-40% grey now at 32 - and because my hair grows WICKED fast (blessing and a curse), I dye it every 4-5 weeks. I always use close to my natural color in a one-process step (did home color for many years then decided when I turned 30 it was time to go pro!) and have never bleached or stripped it except for that one time I tried to use platinum blonde home dye when I was 15 and stupid.

Because of this history, I have been assuming that my hair is highly porous and needs protein. I had started to feel like my hair just couldn't get soft like ti normally does, and was just not curling like normal (I have been borderline 3a on good days, and I'm barely 2b right now) and that's when I reviewed my products... soooo... my hair may be a little over-proteined now... as I was using...

Clarifying shampoo (pre-PT): Tresseme anti-breakage (protein)
CG Shampoo: Giovanni tea tree
RO: Suave naturals coconut (protein)
PT: GVP K-pak once every 1-2 weeks
Product: CJ CCCL or GF pure gel or Curlisto structura lotion (allll protein)
DT: coconut oil (apparently has protein - who knew??)

Oops.

So yesterday I did a porosity test - dropped some strands into (don't laugh, it totally works!) the toilet... and they pretty much floated forever. It's also very smooth and slick when I run my finger up the shaft, but my hair is NOT coarse - it's probably on the fine side of medium, very very stylable (if it's up in a ponytail for more than 3 minutes I can't wear it down the rest of the day because of the permanent-until-washed crease).

Is it possible for my porosity to appear low because I have sooo much protein in it now, or for very colored hair to be so NOT porous?

I went out and totally revamped my products to be mostly protein FREE with plans to add protein in with the K-pak just before and mid-coloring, but otherwise think my hair may be needing some more moisture (see sig for current plan).

Anyone else have experience with low-porosity colored hair?
Mod CG since 5/10, 2b/3a, med width/density, low/med porosity, greying since 18, color over grey since 21

Hair hates: non-keratin protein, glycerin, sorbitol, agave, sulfates, polyquats, co-washing (flaky scalp), maybe aloe?
Hair loves: fewer/more natural ingredients, moisture

Scalp wash: Selsun Blue naturals or reg when desperate
Low poo: Giovanni TTTT
RO: SN - Strawberry, ES
LI: SNES
Style: HETT mousse, FSG if I make it, ??
DT: GVPCB
PT: GVPKP
I'm no expert, but I can certainly sympathize. I have the same hair coloring history that you do but with a few more years (I'm 45), and I get the same permanent until washed ponytail dent. I figured since I have colored for so long, I must be highly porous, but I had a hair analysis done by Live Curly Live Free, and they said that my hair is medium porosity. I didn't quite believe them, so I have done a couple of gelatine protein treatments. They make my hair super soft, it loses all the wave, and gets super frizzy. I did my last one on Friday, and realized that I really DON'T need protein! I read all my product labels and dropped all my protein products and I'm adding as much moisture as possible. Thinking about doing a deep treatment of some sort.

Currenly I'm using Suave Naturals as co-wash, GVP Conditioning Balm as rinse out (left in during my shower), then adding a bit back for leave in, and using a tiny bit of BRHG for hold. I'm thinking about trying silk or keratin at some point, but not any time soon.
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2C/2B; Med-fine texture, Normal porosity/elasticity, med-thin density; Color treated
Cleanse: Jessicurl GLS, L'Oreal EverCreme cleansing conditioner
Co-Wash: SNES, VO5 Kiwi Lime
RO/LI: Jessicurl Aloeba and TooShea!, KCKT, GVPCB
Stylers: KCCC (HG!), SM C&S Milk, BRHG, Jessicurl Gelebration Spray, Confident Coils
CG since 4/23/12
Located in Houston, Texas

"Hair really is the crowning glory of a woman. It lights up her person, it frames her face, it makes a halo around her." - Ann Harding
Hi!
I also have low and medium porosity hair which absolutely hates protein. I've been known to dye my hair pretty often, yet it will only accept/be okay with protein once in a while. My hair will feel like straw-the back will feel slightly better as it's medium porosity zone there. I, too, have pondered the usage of protein so many times. About two months ago I overdid it with protein and my hair felt sad and frizzy for a while. No bueno.
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My hair tends to love: honey, oils, water, ceramides, dye
4s/3s kinks and curls. CG, Coarse and medium strands, Low and normal porosity, High Density.

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