Extreme Protein Sensitivity 4 Years Natural & No HGs

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I know I need a DC but I can't find one that doesn't have one or a few ingredients that my hair hates. I can't think of a homemade DC that doesn't involve my hair no nos either. I swear everything has aloe and no matter where it is on the ingredient list my hair freaks out then add all the other things like plant extracts and proteins and you've got a pretty frustrating situation.

Does anyone know of any products I can look into? I don't mind buying online or expense.
Ladies with the impossible hair, consider that you may be dealing with low-porosity issues. Lo-po hair can defy the normal practices here--the more lovely moisturizing products you use, the worse it gets, because a) it can't absorb so much product, and so it just sits on the hair and causes dreadful buildup, bushiness, dullness, etc.,and b) all that buildup prevents ACTUAL moisture from getting to your hair.

Porosity tests are unreliable, but you might try reading up on low-porosity products and techniques and just trying them out to see if your world improves. Search for the subject here on NC, or check out this thread on CurlyNikki, which was really helpful for me: All Things Low Porosity - CurlyNikki Forums

Good luck!
Jessica
Type 2c: coarse, high-density, low porosity (so it would seem)
Avoiding protein and glycerin; going for soft, non-crunchy, frizz-free waves
CO & RO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
Sealer: Olive oil
Leave-in/Styler: Kinky Curly Knot Today
DT: olive oil and honey
PS For a homemade DT you can use just plain, warmed-up olive oil. It won't work if you've got build-up, though.
Jessica
Type 2c: coarse, high-density, low porosity (so it would seem)
Avoiding protein and glycerin; going for soft, non-crunchy, frizz-free waves
CO & RO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
Sealer: Olive oil
Leave-in/Styler: Kinky Curly Knot Today
DT: olive oil and honey
The fact that you are protein sensitive and lo-po is why I've said my guess is your main problem now is build-up. As previously stated, I get the feeling build-up is the main reason no products (including conditioner) seem to be working for you right now.

Before you use any more product, seriously, I'd get that chelating shampoo and just use it. Then - you said Biolage condish is OK, but isn't super moisturizing right? - after you chelate, you can just do a DEEP DC w/the Biolage, as I described in my last post (using heat). Then leave just a touch of the Biolage in your hair as a LI.

After doing all that, you should see some improvement but it probably won't be completely normal after just one treatment.
3b/c?

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FrostiiLove, things are rough at the moment but dont give up! Im slowly becoming closer to figuring out what works for me and I know I will get there eventually.

My hair personally hated olive oil, but I tried almond oil today as a pre poo and really liked it! I'm still having lots of trouble with conditioners. Im going to by Dark and Lovelys knot out conditioner tomorrow and will let you know how it goes in a few days.
3c/4a, hooray!

Beloved Products:
Condish:Naturelle Grow Herbal Blends (Deep Treatment), Garnier length and strength
Cleansers:Bee Mine Moisturizing Botanicals Shampoo, Jessicurl Gentle Lather Shampoo
Style:Darcy's Botanicals Sweet Cocoa Bean Moisturizing Hair Whip, Aussie Instant Freeze Gel
Thanks everyone! I miss my hair texture right now its just a fried poof, not cool! I am going to cleanse my hair even though I'm terrified because of how dry my hair is then DC with a mix of oils in my conditioning balm. What do you all think?
I COMPLETELY get why you're hesitant to use the chelating shampoo. A couple months ago I had the problem you're describing. Seriously, my hair was incredibly dry and brittle and lacked curl, and it just seemed counter-intuitive to use shampoo since all I could imagine was it would be more drying. BUT the nature of build-up is that it coats the hair and blocks moisture from penetrating the hair. Knowing that, I went ahead and chelated, followed it up w/a DC treatment and that was the rehab that resolved my issue. It took a minute for my hair to get completely back to normal though. Several washes and DCs.

Oil can cause build up, but since I'm not well-versed regarding the specific needs of moisturizing 4a + textured hair (if that's what you have), I can't speak to whether or not you will require oil (or maybe a butter?) as part of your conditioning rehab. But since oil can contribute to a build-up issue, I would guess something light like grapeseed or jojoba oil might be a safer bet ... Don't give up hope yet Frostii. Just chelate LOL
3b/c?

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Last edited by Korkscrew; 08-20-2013 at 05:39 PM.
OP,

I have LP hair as well and if you want, you can check out my blog for low porosity hair tips and some of the products that work for me: wwwlovingmyhair.blogspot.com/

Like you, I have yet to find a staple shampoo, so I am a huge cowasher.

Good luck!
LOW POROSITY, TRANSITIONING: Since October 26, 2012
CLEANSERS: As I Am Coconut Cowash, Shea Moisture's Purification Mask, ORS Creamy Aloe (clarifying)
LIs/Moisturizers: Jessicurl TS, CJCR, CR Hair Milk, DBPS
STYLERS: Bee Mine Curly Butter
DCs: CJCR, Bee Mine Deep Conditioner, Silk Dreams DCs
SEALERS: EVCO/JBCO/Ceramide Oil Mix

Long-term transitioning and enjoying the ride!
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So the dark and lovely knot out conditioner kinda sucked...it make my hair dry and a little waxy. Oh well, the search is back on!
3c/4a, hooray!

Beloved Products:
Condish:Naturelle Grow Herbal Blends (Deep Treatment), Garnier length and strength
Cleansers:Bee Mine Moisturizing Botanicals Shampoo, Jessicurl Gentle Lather Shampoo
Style:Darcy's Botanicals Sweet Cocoa Bean Moisturizing Hair Whip, Aussie Instant Freeze Gel
So the dark and lovely knot out conditioner kinda sucked...it make my hair dry and a little waxy. Oh well, the search is back on!
Originally Posted by afrochick


Really? Its been the best so far, it helped me get my curls back. Doesn't have crazy slip or leave my hair super moisturized but no conditioner had ever done that for me. I just twist my hair up with a little of my trusty grapeseed oil, put on a plastic cap and sit under some heat for 25 minutes and soft hair is the end result!
My favorite dc is KBB Luscious Locks Hair Mask. It may have aloe, not sure though. Another treatment that I love is the Honey Hair Nourisher from Hennasooq. If you have a Trader Joe's nearby the Tea Tree Tingle conditioner is good and also Acure Organics Argan Stem Cell Conditioner they have it at some Whole Foods.

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Thanks for the suggestions secret_karma! We don't have trader joes in miami I'm always heartbroken when I hear about some awesome sounding trader joes product. I will check out the products you mentioned, thanks again


4A In Front/2C Crown/4B In Back - EXTREMELY Protein Sensitive - Lo Porosity - High Shrinkage - 4 Years Natural - Still Haven't Found HGs
There's no Trader Joe's here in Tampa either unfortunately. I purchased mine from the swap board recently. Let me know what ends up working for you

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Thanks for the suggestions secret_karma! We don't have trader joes in miami I'm always heartbroken when I hear about some awesome sounding trader joes product.
Originally Posted by FrostiiLove
+1 on the Acure Argan & Trader Joe's Tea Tree conditioners. My haif hates most proteins, so I avoid them except for my weekly Shescentit Okra PT.

I hear you on Trader Joe's - when they opened in Naples, we drove over 200 miles roundtrip (no exaggeration!) to get our fix. Fortunately, one opened in Sarasota so there's a lot less wear & tear on my car

But take heart, FrostiiLove: TJ is coming to the East Coast! We're looking to move to Palmetto Bay, so this was a huge relief.

From the Miami Herald:

The date is set: Trader Joe's said Monday it is opening its first Miami-Dade grocery store on Oct. 18 in Pinecrest.

The store, at 9205 South Dixie Hwy, will have 13,500 square feet, and will be open from 8 a.m to 9 p.m. daily.
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2c/3a, BSL, medium, low porosity
Low-poo: Bobeam and CV poo bars; Acure Argan Oil & Stem Cell
Conditioner: Acure Argan Oil & Stem Cell; Desert Essence Shea
Stylers: Sweet Curls Elixir Curl Cream; SM CES
PT: BASK Whiskey Soak
Frostii Love, I think the comments about low porosity hair might be something to look into!! Today, I washed my hair, put in conditioner and put on a shower cap while I shaved and finished the rest of my shower. This took about 5-10 minutes and I made sure the water I was showering with was warm enough for there to be steam. After I rinsed the conditioner out, my hair was so soft!! I've realized that I might have to do this mini DC every time I put conditioner into my hair. I also used the Garnier Fructis Length and Strength which is protein free and CG friendly so you should give it a try!
3c/4a, hooray!

Beloved Products:
Condish:Naturelle Grow Herbal Blends (Deep Treatment), Garnier length and strength
Cleansers:Bee Mine Moisturizing Botanicals Shampoo, Jessicurl Gentle Lather Shampoo
Style:Darcy's Botanicals Sweet Cocoa Bean Moisturizing Hair Whip, Aussie Instant Freeze Gel
I love garnier fructis strength/length conditioner. I have 3c/4a hair & both my textures love it. I would recommend anyone use it.
Thanks for the suggestions secret_karma! We don't have trader joes in miami I'm always heartbroken when I hear about some awesome sounding trader joes product.
Originally Posted by FrostiiLove
But take heart, FrostiiLove: TJ is coming to the East Coast! We're looking to move to Palmetto Bay, so this was a huge relief.

From the Miami Herald:

The date is set: Trader Joe's said Monday it is opening its first Miami-Dade grocery store on Oct. 18 in Pinecrest.

The store, at 9205 South Dixie Hwy, will have 13,500 square feet, and will be open from 8 a.m to 9 p.m. daily.
Originally Posted by yossarian
I just saw it on the website and I'm pumped! Who ever thought one could get so excited about a grocery store lol
Afrochick I've know for a long time I'm lowpo, my version of your steaming is to just sit under the dryer for 20-25 minutes with the conditioner, I even do it to moisturize and seal just to make sure it's getting in there and not just sitting on top my hair. Plastic cap and heat are truly saving my hair. It's just so time consuming when wash days are literally a day long process, sigh
I love garnier fructis strength/length conditioner. I have 3c/4a hair & both my textures love it. I would recommend anyone use it.
Originally Posted by curlicious13
I'm afraid of garnier several of their products have given my jacked up hair but I'll look into the ingredients and see if I'm willing to take a gamble lol.

Thank you all so much for the advice and suggestions!
What leave-ins are you ladies using, it's getting to the end of summer so I'm trying to get my routine for the cooler/dryer months together. I'm going to be pretty busy and very pregnant by then so I won't have to to product hunt.

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