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Old 03-04-2012, 08:09 AM   #101
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i was about to order order both the satin roots and coil jam and i noticed both contain glycerin.

how have these products been in the lower dews? do you have to seal? i am really looking for something to use in the low dews that will allow me not to seal.


(on a side -- isn't broccoli seed oil one of the ingredients that was in cj smoothing gellie? i was one of the few who loved that product!)
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:22 AM   #102
 
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Satin Roots

New Ingredients:

Distilled Water, Calendula Officinalis Flower Extract, Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Extract, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Chondrus Crispus (Carrageenan) Extract, Ulmus Fulva (Slippery Elm), Althaea Officinalis (Marshmallow) Root, Vegetable Glycerin, Cetyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Pro-Vitamin B5 (Panthenol), Persea Americana Oil (Avocado Oil), Brassica oleracea italica (Broccoli) Seed Oil, Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol, Fragrance

Original Ingredients (copied from post #1):

Distilled Water, Calendula Officinalis Flower Extract, Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Extract, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Chondrus Crispus (Carrageenan) Extract, Ulmus Fulva (Slippery Elm), Althaea Officinalis (Marshmallow) Root, Vegetable Glycerin, Cetyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Pro-Vitamin B5 (Panthenol), Persea Americana Oil (Avocado Oil), Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol, Fragrance

I don't know if my hair would notice a difference with the Broccoli Oil that far down in the ingredient list, LOL! I love the Satin Roots, so I'm sure I would love the new version, too.

I also read that she's coming out with a new shampoo called "Clean Cream." The Cleanse (which I love) is not longer available on the website.
Don't you love when something you love is discontinued for something else that you don't know if you'll love? Happens to me all the time. I feel like "I love it! What about me?" Oh well. Monique is sending out samples of the new new Clean Cream with orders this week. Sounds like it will be good also.
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:41 AM   #103
 
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i was about to order order both the satin roots and coil jam and i noticed both contain glycerin.

how have these products been in the lower dews? do you have to seal? i am really looking for something to use in the low dews that will allow me not to seal.


(on a side -- isn't broccoli seed oil one of the ingredients that was in cj smoothing gellie? i was one of the few who loved that product!)
My hair likes glycerin all year around. Don't seem to have any issues no matter how high/low the dewpoint. I only use the Satin Roots and Coil Jam, no extra product for sealing. Went back to double check--in post #41, I had emailed Monique to ask a few questions. She's supposed to come out with a glycerin free version of Coil Jam.

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Don't you love when something you love is discontinued for something else that you don't know if you'll love? Happens to me all the time. I feel like "I love it! What about me?" Oh well. Monique is sending out samples of the new new Clean Cream with orders this week. Sounds like it will be good also.
It does bother me when products I like change. Having used the other products, I can't imagine this one won't be great, too. I did email to ask her when it would be available on the website--and if the ingredients were available for posting. If the products have really different ingredients, I'd love to see them both be available.
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Old 03-04-2012, 01:42 PM   #104
 
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Here's what Monique wrote about the new shampoo, "The shampoo will have more gentler ingredients in them. I have completely removed the Cocamidopropyl betaine and replaced it with a more eco friendly surfactant made from bio degradable sources. It will also be more color friendly so people with colored hair won't have to worry about it stripping the color from their hair. It will foam up but it will be a gentle foam." She'll send me an email with the full ingredient list when she releases it in a week or so. I'll post it when I get it.

She's also sending out a notice to folks who are on her mailing list about the broccoli seed oil in the Satin Roots and the new shampoo. When the shampoo is released, she'll be having a sale. So, stay tuned--or sign up for the newsletter.
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Old 03-04-2012, 03:06 PM   #105
 
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I just got samples of the coil jam and satin roots and she sent me a sample of the clean cream. Am trying it shortly
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Old 03-04-2012, 07:23 PM   #106
 
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The glycerin in the Coil Jam doesn't seem to bother me. I sometimes get that flash drying feeling when using products w/ glycerin in low dews but haven't gotten that w/ the Coil Jam!
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:23 AM   #107
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i decided to just go ahead and try it, i know it's really all in the formulation so perhaps some other ingredient minimized the glycerin. i can always use it in warmer weather, too, altho cj afg is my HG for warm weather.
i had decided i'd buy the 8 oz coil jam and a sample of the satin roots. of course, both were out of stock! lol! so i just went ahead and ordered larger sizes. now i can't wait til i can try them!
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:01 AM   #108
 
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Don't know why I did this, I think it's because people compared the CK products to the CK products on the 4a Curly Kinks thread.(I don't use KCKT because it isn't moisturizing enough for me.) I used the Satin Roots with KCCC! My hair was terrific. Yesterday was my monthly "game" day. One of the ladies told me that my hair was curly yesterday. My reply is that it's always curly--and she said, "But today, it's REALLY curly!"

I guess I'm ready to start using these products with some other products, LOL!
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Satin roots leave in is THE bomb!

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Old 03-13-2012, 07:41 PM   #110
 
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Today, I used the Curly Cue ReNew under the Coil Jam--another great curl day! Lots of compliments. I only wish she'd make products, so I could try more combinations, LOL!
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Old 03-18-2012, 01:12 PM   #111
 
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Bit the bullet today and ordered the coil jam, conditioner and a sample of the spray. Can't wait til it gets here. I love trying out new products.
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Which of the products would be considered somewhat of a curl styling cream. I've been using Curl Junkie Curls in a Bottle and not enough control anymore. I'd like a styling cream with a bit of hold for definition but not stiff like gel.
Thanks for the info.
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:36 PM   #113
 
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I have not received my products yet, but I believe the coil jam would be what you are looking for
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:33 PM   #114
 
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Coil Jam is a jelly, Satin Roots is a leave in/cream type product.
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Anyone try out the ReFresh? Also, what other cleanser would you compare the CK cleanser to?
I haven't used my products in a while because I've been experimenting with other products, but will revisit them next wash. My hair is in much better shape now and I find I don't need much hold from products.
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:04 AM   #116
 
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Anyone try out the ReFresh? Also, what other cleanser would you compare the CK cleanser to?
I haven't used my products in a while because I've been experimenting with other products, but will revisit them next wash. My hair is in much better shape now and I find I don't need much hold from products.
My hair doesn't respond well to refreshers, so I can't evaluate it properly for you.

I just got the new Clean Cream and have only used it once, so won't review it--yet. Here are the ingredients:

Water, Sea Kelp, Mentha piperita (Pepperment) Leaf Extract, Yucca Leaf Extract, Equisetum arvense (Horsetail) Leaf Extract, Urtica dioica (Nettle) Leaf Extract, Melissa officinalis (Melissa) Leaf Extract, Glycerin, Ammonium Cocoyl Isethionate (derived from coconut oil), Decyl Glucoside, Avocado Oil, Glycol Stearate, Polyquaternium 7, Sucrose Cocoate (derived from sugar beets & coconut oil), Panthenol, PEG-150 Pentaerythrityl tetrastearate, PEG-6 Capric/Caprylic glycerides, Phenoxyethanol (and) Benzoic Acid (and) Dehydroacetic Acid, Fragrance

I'm just hoping the the polyquat 7 doesn't build up on me (I have problems with 4 and 10.) I did my health club and errands right away on Wed. Mail came early and the Curly Kinks package was here! So, I used the cleanser when I took my shower. Wasn't going out again, so didn't want to "waste" the Satin Roots/Coil Jam combo. I used the Curlycue ReNew as my leave in and As I Am Jelly. All I can say is WOW! Boy did I have shrinkage. Made my curls into tight little spirals with not frizz. It was one of my best hair days ever. I've used that styling combo before with good results. Can't say that it was the cleanser, but I got great results!

I guess I just did a bit of review. I'll probably use it again over the weekend with the Satin Roots/Coil Jam. I usually don't let myself use something more then every five days, but I'm anxious to see what this does. Especially with the polyquat build up concern.
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I just want to add that I got a sample of the Refresh spray....I never really like refreshers and feel like I do better with straight water but I've used this twice with great results both times. It actually feels more like a very watery, non-sticky styler to me. I'm going to try it a few more times before I order the full size but so far I really like it.

I also got the new cleanser but have only used it once so I'll hold off on commenting on it for now. It seemed fine though.

So far I have loved every single product I've tried from this line.
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I have to say that I LOVE the satin roots Leave-in !!!!!

I alternate between this and tresseme naturals conditioner. I'm so glad I purchased the 16 oz when I placed my order! I also LOVE the scent of these products!
I'm thinking of ordering the sample Pack in order to try out the other three products.

Can anyone that has tried KCCC compare it with the coil jam?
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I have to say that I LOVE the satin roots Leave-in !!!!!

I alternate between this and tresseme naturals conditioner. I'm so glad I purchased the 16 oz when I placed my order! I also LOVE the scent of these products!
I'm thinking of ordering the sample Pack in order to try out the other three products.

Can anyone that has tried KCCC compare it with the coil jam?
The first time I used KCCC, I had the best curl day ever--up until that time (it was about 4 years ago.) I found other jelly products that I like better and (including the KC TT Moisturizing Styler) and shelved the KCCC. The CK products have been my favorites since I bought them last December. I rotate products and only let myself use any one product every five days. The Coil Jam is great.

Since I read so many comparisons of the KCCC to the Coil Jam, I decided to try the KCCC with the Satin Roots (I also use the Curlycue ReNew as a li since I don't DT.) They work really well together.
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I like the Coil Jam way more than KCCC. I never got good, consistent results from KCCC.
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