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11-07-2012, 11:27 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 456
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Cleansing conditioners?
So I love L'Oreal Evercreme Cleansing Conditioner, but I don't love L'Oreal as a brand so much. I prefer to support companies that make a point of being fair-trade and/or organic. I like the slip that a cleansing conditioner provides and how it doesn't strip my hair. Any leads on alternatives I should try? Would be good to take advantage of Black Friday deals! TIA.
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|| 3b; normal porosity; fine/normal texture || CG since Feb 2010 ||
Current Routine BAQ henna 1/month; Leave-in OH Hair Dew; Cleansing Conditioner Giovanni TTTT. – Just three! 
Old Stand-bys extra-virgin coconut oil; Protein AO GPB; Moisture AO HR; Style AOMMJ. – Kept for troubleshooting.
Waiting to try extra-wide curlformers. Propylene Glycol Sensitive - Itchy scalp? Facial Irritation? This might be why!
Last edited by poemaXX; 11-10-2012 at 11:27 AM.
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11-07-2012, 08:27 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 698
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Giovanni's Triple Tea Treat conditioner is nice. Although it's not labelled as a cleansing conditioner, it has tea tree oil in it, and it does the job. 
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11-10-2012, 10:01 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 403
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I loved Darcy's Botanicals Daily Cleansing Conditioner Cream! It's all natural and works pretty well It doesn't provide much slip, but it definitely cleans with only the mildest surfactants and without stripping.
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11-10-2012, 11:34 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 456
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Giovanni conditioners do have a lot of slip... And this one has behentrimonium methosulfate so it'll lather. Hm. This may be worth revisiting!  I tried it when i began my CG journey, but my hair is so different now that it just might work.
Can you believe I'd completely overlooked this brand so far? Even with all the rave reviews about their pumpkin seed conditioner. I'm not able to do a PJ haul right now, but I'm definitely making a note... 
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|| 3b; normal porosity; fine/normal texture || CG since Feb 2010 ||
Current Routine BAQ henna 1/month; Leave-in OH Hair Dew; Cleansing Conditioner Giovanni TTTT. – Just three!
Old Stand-bys extra-virgin coconut oil; Protein AO GPB; Moisture AO HR; Style AOMMJ. – Kept for troubleshooting.
Waiting to try extra-wide curlformers. Propylene Glycol Sensitive - Itchy scalp? Facial Irritation? This might be why!
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11-10-2012, 03:51 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 456
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Aw, it has amodimethicone – since I'm CG that's a no-no.  Thanks though! I hope it works well for you.
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|| 3b; normal porosity; fine/normal texture || CG since Feb 2010 ||
Current Routine BAQ henna 1/month; Leave-in OH Hair Dew; Cleansing Conditioner Giovanni TTTT. – Just three!
Old Stand-bys extra-virgin coconut oil; Protein AO GPB; Moisture AO HR; Style AOMMJ. – Kept for troubleshooting.
Waiting to try extra-wide curlformers. Propylene Glycol Sensitive - Itchy scalp? Facial Irritation? This might be why!
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11-10-2012, 05:57 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 275
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free shipping on orders of $25 or more at curlmart right now... wouldn't have to be much of a haul to make the cut!
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2b/c wavy modified CG since July 2012
medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity
hair likes protein, doesn't like oils, easily OC'd
low poo: JCHCC, CJGCS
RO/co-wash/LI: YTCarrots, DB Pumpkin Seed
stylers: a bunch of stylers that are all pretty much the same (KCCC, UFDCM, CRCM, CKCJ) or ArcAngel if I need more hold
DT/PT: CJRM, CNPF
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11-10-2012, 09:16 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 456
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I've told myself no purchases until Black Friday!  I'm gonna be a goooood PJ and hold off til the discounts roll in...
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|| 3b; normal porosity; fine/normal texture || CG since Feb 2010 ||
Current Routine BAQ henna 1/month; Leave-in OH Hair Dew; Cleansing Conditioner Giovanni TTTT. – Just three!
Old Stand-bys extra-virgin coconut oil; Protein AO GPB; Moisture AO HR; Style AOMMJ. – Kept for troubleshooting.
Waiting to try extra-wide curlformers. Propylene Glycol Sensitive - Itchy scalp? Facial Irritation? This might be why!
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11-11-2012, 05:02 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,534
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My faves are the following in no particular order:
CJ Daily Fix.....this is really good if you have hard water and for the occasional cone use because it does have Cocomidapropyl Betaine in it and Tetrasodium EDT for the hard water. VERY moisturizing!
Darcy's......another fave, moisture heaven but not as cleansing as CJDF
As I am Coconut Cleansing Cream......an on ground fave as you can get it at Sallys.
HTH!
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Cosmetology Educator with sensitivities, eczema and Seborrheic Dermatitis.
Ingredients Maven
Products: Free and Clear sulfate free poo and condish, Theraneem Sulfate Free Shampoo/Condish, Unscented SSCEJ, Coconut oil, Camellia oil, Argan oil
Lady Karaan, High Priestess of Hayr Tretements in the Order of Curly Crusaders
Fotki updated 10/12/10 Password: wavy
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11-11-2012, 10:07 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 63
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Wen! Nothing I mean nothing comes close to it!
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11-12-2012, 10:17 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 548
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I haven't tried Darcy's yet (but love other products from this brand), but the CJ and AIA are my two staple co-washes. As rymorg said, CJDF is great if you have hard water or use the occasional cone; the AIA is perfect for an everday co-wash (works well without stripping my hair) and is affordable and available on the ground.
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2c/3a, botticelli/wavy/'swavy (huh?) fine, dense, normal porosity/elasticity, dry climate
My favorite brands are Curl Junkie, Darcy's Botanicals, As I Am, Curly Kinks and Shea Moisture. Also love sealing with oil and styling with jelly products.
CG since 12/29/2011 
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11-12-2012, 10:56 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 456
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Wen has amodimethicone, so it's a no-go for me. Thanks though!
These three sound great – the Curl Junkie one especially! Thanks, gals.
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|| 3b; normal porosity; fine/normal texture || CG since Feb 2010 ||
Current Routine BAQ henna 1/month; Leave-in OH Hair Dew; Cleansing Conditioner Giovanni TTTT. – Just three!
Old Stand-bys extra-virgin coconut oil; Protein AO GPB; Moisture AO HR; Style AOMMJ. – Kept for troubleshooting.
Waiting to try extra-wide curlformers. Propylene Glycol Sensitive - Itchy scalp? Facial Irritation? This might be why!
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11-25-2012, 05:32 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,662
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Daily Fix by CJ is my favorite. I also like the As I Am Cleanser and Jessicurl Hair Cleansing Cream.
Sent from my iPhone using CurlTalk
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Type: 3a fine & dense,with normal porosity, terrible product junkie
ROUTINE: LI, enhancer, gel, plop with Curlease towel, serum product (either CIAB or Gel-les'c), clip & diffuse.
Too many favourite products to list ... I finally have my routine that works and alot of products to choose from. My product stash is huge, but well loved !!!
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11-27-2012, 03:39 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 403
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My hair was acting up, so I tried the DB Cleansing Conditioner Cream again, it was GREAT! It actually had lots of slip and was very moisturizing yet cleansing. Totally recommend it! Haha, I have actually just order the Pumpkin to try.
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11-30-2012, 08:59 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 81
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I just bought the loreal line yesterday because I didn't have money to buy my usual and I'm trying them out cause they were price cut at Target. I was the forever reading the bottles because I too am strictly CG and some of there products are silicone, sulfrate free but they were all mixed in together so I had to ensure what was what. I felt like I worked at Target because women were questioning if that is what I use for my hair, I had to direct them to the Shea products and other recommendations and explain this was my first time trying the products. I used the cleansing cream this morning and was surprised on the slip. I usually use Deva no poo because the slip on it works great for my thick long hair. Ill be following this thread cause I also like to support more natural companies.
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11-30-2012, 11:17 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 456
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Just found out that Massage Warehouse sells Giovanni conditioners in liter and gallon sizes. Verrrrry tempting since it drives the cost per ounce down even more! Massage Warehouse: Giovanni Tea Tree Triple Treat
I'm almost sad I like this L'Oreal product so much!  But I know there are more natural alternatives out there. The Giovanni TTTT seems like a very reasonably priced option. Curly Junkie Daily Fix sounds really cleansing without stripping. Darcy's Botanicals sounds moisturizing and dreamy. 
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|| 3b; normal porosity; fine/normal texture || CG since Feb 2010 ||
Current Routine BAQ henna 1/month; Leave-in OH Hair Dew; Cleansing Conditioner Giovanni TTTT. – Just three!
Old Stand-bys extra-virgin coconut oil; Protein AO GPB; Moisture AO HR; Style AOMMJ. – Kept for troubleshooting.
Waiting to try extra-wide curlformers. Propylene Glycol Sensitive - Itchy scalp? Facial Irritation? This might be why!
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12-02-2012, 04:29 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 698
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I second the Jessicurl cleansing cream. So gentle.. 
I also wanted to add the Ouidad cleansing conditioner. Just tried it and it's great! If you can get it for a steal.
Oh and also the ubiquitous Devacurl no-poo. Has a yummy lemon scent.
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12-24-2012, 12:57 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 4
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Ren Cleansing Conditioner
I just tried this today (Rosemary & Mint) with disastrous results! I'm 3B/C, coarse, extremely dry hair. Ren made my hair tangle into a horrible mess (in the shower), felt really dried out, and adding more didn't help at all. Tried to finger-comb my hair while in the shower (and with my hair slathered in Ren), and pulled out huge wads of hair! I immediately took it back, but that still leaves me with the frustrating question of how to go CG and find something that really works like it claims to? So frustrating. My hair is so dry and needs a ton of slip so I don't pull it all out when i out when I finger comb it in the shower.
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01-03-2013, 05:51 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 13
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I recently found my HG co wash! I am a 3a/3b combo, and I have fallen in love with ABBA Pure Gentle leave in condish. I use it as both co wash and leave in. It has great slip, and foams just a tiny bit. Cone free w/ tons of yummy botanicals. A bit pricey, but I buy liters for $9.99 @ TJ Maxx.
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Henna!!! Red Raj from Henna Sooq
Co-washes: ABBA Pure Gentle (HG), Tresseme Naturals.
Low-poo: Shea Moisture (all of them), Renpure my pretty hair is parched.
Rinse-out: Tigi Bead Head Moisture Maniac, GF Length and Strength.
Leave-in: ABBA Pure Gentle, KCKT, Henna Sooq cocoveda oil.
Stylers: Fairy Tales Curly Q's gel (HG), KCCC, Shea Moisture curl enhancing smoothy, GF pure clean gel.
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01-04-2013, 03:58 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 456
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I haven't looked at the Ren ingredients, but it sounds like your hair might be protein sensitive. Many folks who are describe dry tangly hair even with conditioner.
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|| 3b; normal porosity; fine/normal texture || CG since Feb 2010 ||
Current Routine BAQ henna 1/month; Leave-in OH Hair Dew; Cleansing Conditioner Giovanni TTTT. – Just three!
Old Stand-bys extra-virgin coconut oil; Protein AO GPB; Moisture AO HR; Style AOMMJ. – Kept for troubleshooting.
Waiting to try extra-wide curlformers. Propylene Glycol Sensitive - Itchy scalp? Facial Irritation? This might be why!
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