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04-06-2010, 08:02 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 611
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Used CIAB mixed with EcoStyler Krystal today...so far a great hair day!
Thanks, Ladies!!!!
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04-06-2010, 09:07 AM
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Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,484
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dark_waves, I'm going to try this combo. Let me know if it ends up making your hair too soft!
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2b/medium; CG 5/20/09
Wash, co-wash, co: Queen Helene Royal Curl Shampoo / Conditioner, Kiehl's Amino Acid Shampoo / Conditioner, Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix, Tigi MM
Stylers: Sally's Neutral Protein Filler as spray, Queen Helene Royal Curl Creme, LALSG
Techniques: Plop and Diffuse
Hair bio: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...4&postcount=97
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04-06-2010, 09:42 AM
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#43
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Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 938
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missbanjo, I'm a 2B/3A depending on what products I use and what the dews are. I used the CJ CIAB and found it more curl defining but less curl enhancing than CJ CCCC lite, if you've used that. It makes my hair VERY shiny, almost too shiny because it looks wet even after it's dry.
First, I tried CIAB over a leave-in and under a hard-hold gel. I did this experiment twice, with two different leave-ins (CJ CA & Shescenscit). Good results, but too producty overall; I think my hair was over-conditioned.
Second, the other day I tried CIAB + gel with no leave-in underneath. My hair was less producty, but also less soft. I might try this again but with either a tiny bit of leave-in or a little less gel.
I haven't yet tried CIAB by itself, but I'm guessing it wouldn't be enough hold for me.
I attached some pics of CIAB + gel (taken two days ago). I used BRHG on the left side, and ABBA pure finish on the right side. The two sides were indistinguishable, so I didn't photograph both: only the back and the right side (with Abba gel).
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hair type: 2B/3A low poo: Elucence moisture; Elucence clarifying (after swimming)
condish: CJ smoothing; CJ argan; CJ repair me; CJ curl rehab; CJ strengthening (summer only)
summer styling: CJ CCCC lite + CJ Curl Queen; or CJ Beauticurls leave-in + Curly Kinks coil jam
straightening: MD yogurt smoothy cream + CHI iron guard
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04-09-2010, 07:43 AM
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#44
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,801
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When I had my appointment with Tiffany she used CIAB in my hair (for the first time) and I loved it so much that I bought it right then and there at her salon.
Right now, I'm using it alone as a styler on top of my LI/jojoba oil/water mix that I spray into my hair when I get out of the shower. I apply CIAB in 3 sections and diffuse my hair upside down until it is about 50% dry. Then I let the rest of my hair airdry and sometimes hit it with the diffuser a few more times, then when my hair is 100% dry I flip over and scrunch any crunch (to make the curls softer) and fluff up my hair. I have yet to be disappointed when I flip back up and see amazing curls.
I actually posted pictures of my hair after using just CIAB. If you'd like to see them, click on the "General Discussion of Curly Hair" thread, then scroll to either the 2nd or 3rd page and click on the thread that says "Tiffany at Live Curly Live Free!!!!" I believe I posted 3 initial pictures and then another one towards the end.
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3b/c :: Fine :: Porous
I My Hair
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04-09-2010, 07:46 AM
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#45
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,801
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Ok so I just checked the other thread and its now on the 4th page, LOL. Hope you like them!
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04-09-2010, 08:01 AM
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#46
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 332
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 I've been using just CIAB with no leave-in or gel and have had some of my best hair days with lots of volume, shine, bounce and defined curls. I tried using it with a leave-in and gel but my hair felt and looked producty. I also tried using just CCCC Lite with no leave-in or gel and had very similar results, just not quite as shiny and had a little frizz late in the day but overall a good hair day.
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3B Fine (lots of it), Normal to High Porosity
Low Poo: Elucence Moisture Poo, Renpure Organics
Co-Wash: Tresseme Naturals, Giovanni TT
Rinse Out: Biologe Cond Balm, SS Deeply Decadent Moisturizing Treatment
Leave-In: Oyin Hair Dew, CJ Beautiful Curls,
Stylers: SS Curl Enhancing Jelly, SS Firm Holding Styling Gel, Jessicurl RR and CC, BRHG, Biolage Gelee
Extras: ACV rinses every couple of months
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05-06-2010, 07:39 AM
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#47
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 5,075
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Im loving my CIAB, it is a very good refresher to replump my curls/coils in the morning after I have slept on them every which way
the last two days when I wake up , I take some KBB Hair milk and run it thru my hair , then take the CIAB and do the same. working like a charm!
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05-06-2010, 11:05 AM
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#48
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,407
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Milk + CIAB?? I'm on it!  Thanks!
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Type: 3c with some 4a highlighted
Low porosity thick/coarse texture. nml elasticity
Routine: No rules, just happy hair
Cleanse: CJDF, Prell, LUSH Curly Wurly, Bobeam
LI/RO:BBB, CJ, SheaM, HEHIS, Garnier, KBN Shealoe, CD Chocolat, Oyin HH
Styling: CJ, CR, UFD, Zuresh, Ecostyler,MJ
PT/DT: BBB, CJ, Lather, MJSSB
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05-15-2010, 05:21 PM
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#49
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,534
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CIAB isn't working for me right now with hold, or enhancement like it used to either. I was considering putting it aside awhile and trying it again later, or selling it on the swap board, but I used it today to SOTC....VOILA, it worked! Just like a serum! Smooth wurls, soft wurls that held....I just used a dime sized blob so it means the bottle will last a LONNNNGGGGG TIMMMMMEEEEEE
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Cosmetology Educator with sensitivities, eczema and Seborrheic Dermatitis.
Ingredients Maven
Products: Free and Clear sulfate free poo and condish, Theraneem Sulfate Free Shampoo/Condish, Unscented SSCEJ, Coconut oil, Camellia oil, Argan oil
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06-05-2010, 02:48 PM
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#50
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,208
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I just got my bottle of CIAB from Curlmart and was wondering how it's holding up in the higher dew points for you ladies. I haven't had a chance to try it yet.
It's hot and the dewpoints and humidity are through the roof around here so not sure how it's going to work for me.
My hair has been awful
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3b/c fine, thick, porous, protein sensitive
Modified CG, CJ Rehab, JCWDT, KCKT, VO5 Chamomile Tea Therapy, CJDF, HEBE Gel/Mousse, Bioinfusion Rosemary Mint shampoo, occasional protein
Experimenting with BRHG
"If you want the rainbow, you've gotta put up with the rain"
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06-05-2010, 04:28 PM
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#51
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,407
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CIAB is a serum to bust frizz for most and a styler (to be used alone) for a few. I'm a coarse curly so CIAB can't hold me down unless its mixed with a gel. Once its mixed with a gel some voodoo happens that makes my curls pop and I think its the curl enhancing action of the CIAB. Without saying, the shine is incredible as well.
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Type: 3c with some 4a highlighted
Low porosity thick/coarse texture. nml elasticity
Routine: No rules, just happy hair
Cleanse: CJDF, Prell, LUSH Curly Wurly, Bobeam
LI/RO:BBB, CJ, SheaM, HEHIS, Garnier, KBN Shealoe, CD Chocolat, Oyin HH
Styling: CJ, CR, UFD, Zuresh, Ecostyler,MJ
PT/DT: BBB, CJ, Lather, MJSSB
HUGE PJJJJJJJJ!!!!
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Reason: b/c as usual.. cant type.
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06-05-2010, 08:36 PM
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#52
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Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 938
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I just tried CIAB in high dews for the first time. I used it over a leave-in (Shescentit coco creme), and initially with nothing else on top. My hair was almost dry and was a frizzy mess, so I wet it down again and scrunched in a quarter-size amount of BRHG. Worked like a charm. Good hair both 1st and 2nd day, and it didn't expand too much, I'm guessing because it's not packed with glycerin. I'm looking forward to more high dew experiments.
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hair type: 2B/3A low poo: Elucence moisture; Elucence clarifying (after swimming)
condish: CJ smoothing; CJ argan; CJ repair me; CJ curl rehab; CJ strengthening (summer only)
summer styling: CJ CCCC lite + CJ Curl Queen; or CJ Beauticurls leave-in + Curly Kinks coil jam
straightening: MD yogurt smoothy cream + CHI iron guard
http://members.fotki.com/melaniesusan/ pw = 3ahair
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06-05-2010, 08:49 PM
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#53
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 800
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I always use gel with CIAB. I either top it off with BRHG, KMS Cranberry and Pepper or I use it mixed with Ecostyler. CIAB on it's own doesn't hold and I end up with a frizzy mess.
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3B, fine, low/normal porosity
CG - July 2009
CO/RO/Trt.-Suave, BCB, Tigi OH & MM, EO, CJRehab, SG, DF & CF, Jasmine's, Bellacurl, SS, Darcy's, K-Pak, Shescentit, DE Coconut, MD, Oyin, JCWDT, CurlQ
LI-GDLI, Abba PGC, CJRehab, CF,SG & BCLI, Jasmine's, Bellacurl, SS, Shescentit, DE Coconut, MD, Oyin
Styler-FSG, Re:coil, CJCCCC lite & CIAB, Komaza CCP & CS, DB, BRHG, Joiwhip/gel, Ecostyler, Boots, SS, Gel-les'c, DMMCG, KCSS
Too many others to list!
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06-06-2010, 04:45 AM
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#54
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,208
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So it seems like everyone is either mixing it with a gel or using it under a gel. I'm planning on using it more like a curl enhancer/frizz reducer under a gel because my curls need a ton of hold especially in the higher dew points (can we say major poof city?) so I know it won't work alone for me.
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3b/c fine, thick, porous, protein sensitive
Modified CG, CJ Rehab, JCWDT, KCKT, VO5 Chamomile Tea Therapy, CJDF, HEBE Gel/Mousse, Bioinfusion Rosemary Mint shampoo, occasional protein
Experimenting with BRHG
"If you want the rainbow, you've gotta put up with the rain"
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09-13-2010, 12:28 PM
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#55
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,545
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Sorry if this has been asked before, but how does this compare with Curlkeeper or Gel-les'C? My daughter uses this and I'm going to sneak into her stash  for a sample. I need to order some more soon and was wondering which would be more cost effective. She has used Curlkeeper before as well and I can order that in a liter size.
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09-13-2010, 01:12 PM
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#56
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,576
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Gotta say, this is becoming my go-to finisher and refresher. I just love how it adds shine and how it helps reclump/recurl/reshine on second, third day hair.
I dont' even use it anymore on wet hair. It just works so well on me on DRY.
I have dry, porous, non-shiny hair naturally, but CIAB really adds a level of smoothness and shine I'm finding more and more irresistible. In the following pic, I just added a scosh of CIAB to my dry curls and just added spring and shine and contained my tendency to uberfrizz with total diffusing (with SMasters method, I do diffuse until dry, totally dry):
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Natural since 11/25/09 (Miami)
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Curl Junkie Conditions!
Re:coil ROCKS!
~CJ Protein Tx; SS RPT
~S&C; SMasters Method; Clipping
Dumping clumps for VOLUME!
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09-13-2010, 05:57 PM
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#57
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 6,347
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I haven't used gelees so can't comment on that but CIAB is thicker then CK. I used to love CK but for some odd reason I haven't been able to use it anymore.......That's OK though because CIAB is a much better substitute anyway. It has amazing hold for the texture, it gives me shine, clumps & definition. Amazing stuff truly....I did use it over CJ CurlFix as a LI on a cooler day without BRHG & it held up for me. I like to use it with BRHG to give me 2nd day hair. I am totally in love with CIAB
interesting you're using it on DRY hair Mir!! I think that would weigh down my waves, I like it on very wet hair in the shower.
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2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive
Link-Spritz & Condish Washing
I'm aCurlJunkieJunky
My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars
CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
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09-13-2010, 06:23 PM
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#58
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 13,136
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I am with you Del2c-I use on very wet hair over a combo of the curlfix/ cccc lite with BRHG mixed with water over the CIAB.
I have never figured out how to use gel es c (and I hate typing it) and CK stopped working for me too...not sure why. But I do find that CIAB works better in dryer/cooler weather for me.
I have given up on using anything on my hair when it's dry. Nothing, I mean nothing works. Lots of stuff looks promising but then it ends up looking horrible.
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09-13-2010, 06:39 PM
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#59
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 6,347
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I have to laugh at the bolded
Over the Summer I was mixing CIAB with Ecostyler and it worked really well together. This is a great year round product for me  just change what LI I use (or none) works every time with whatever condish I use too. CIAB, CurlFix and CCC-lite are my favorite stylers in her line.
I have good success using JC N&S or KBB Butter on dry hair when dew points are low/air is dry. In the humidity forget it...nothing works for me either. Weird CK stopped working for you too???? I used CK/Honey for 2 Summers in a row! Worked excellent so I was all set for it to work this Summer. I got tired of experimenting with it and just gave up..
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2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive
Link-Spritz & Condish Washing
I'm aCurlJunkieJunky
My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars
CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
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09-13-2010, 06:50 PM
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#60
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 700
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CIAB gives me excellent shine and it does help with frizz control, but I don't like that it has a tendency to make my curls droop around the crown area. No matter how curly my crown is, as soon as I add CIAB, I can see a lessening in curl. That problem diminishes a bit if my hair is nowhere near soaking wet when I put it on.
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