NATURAL RECIPES FOR CLARIFYING (CG)

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Hey thanks for posting those recipes, do you have any more from the curly girl book?
Originally Posted by curly-oreo
There are several others in the CG book but few are really popular, here's a couple of the ones that seem to work best:

ALOE AROMA SCALP THERAPY

After you've rinsed or shampooed your hair in warm water, apply 1 tbsp. aloe vera gel to your scalp. (Use the edible type of AVG, the kind that has to be refrigerated after opening.) Massage gently for several minutes. Rinse hair and condition as usual. Or leave in, as an alternative to hair gel.

*I was once was told by a woman with pretty kinky hair that she left AVG taken directly from the plant one day or more and after she rinsed it off and did a roller set her hair was (temporarily) straight and shiny as she'd never had it before.


AVOCADO WRAP

1 ripe avocado
3-4 tsp. honey
8-10 drops almond oil

1. Peel and core the avocado, then mix in a blender with other ingredients.
2. Apply to wet hair, concentrating on the ends.
3. Wrap hair with clear plastic wrap or towel. Leave on for 20-30 mins.
4. Rinse thoroughly with warm water.

There's also "Love Is In The Hair" and you can find it here: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...ic.php?t=91394
2A/3A, medium length, layered, colored dark/medium ash blonde - "CGer" since April '02.

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Just giving this a bump. I think I'm going to try the no-poo on myself and my daughter. Her head gets really sweaty and smelly in the summer, will these help with that? Or is she doomed to be a smelly no/low-poo kid?
Type: 3a/3b, fine-medium
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Moisture/Co rinse: GVP conditioning balm
DT: Jessicurl's dt
Leave in: KCKT
Definition: kccc
Hold: rotating: gvp liquid scuplting gel
ACV rinse bi-weekly
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I used the baking soda rinse, and my hair looked fantastic. I think my conditioner builds up easily, so I need to do this every two weeks or so. But I have color treated hair, so will the BS strip the color?
Do you all think co-washes are enough to get hairsprays/gels out fo the hair daily??

Anyone find that the lemon juice causes hair to get lighter, cuz |I don't want that

Also, do you all think that the clarifying rinses get down to the scalp, as you can't rub them if they just fall through the hair??

finally, what's a good applicator to use to get teh baking soda in the hair??? when I was using a spray bottle it took me over a half hour to get all that stuff in my hair, just by little squirts.
Any suggestions??
Thanks so much for this! And for bumping it up - very helpful!

Only thing is I'm not sure which one to use...

I am mod-CG - I generally lo-poo 1x per week. Lately been lo-poo-ing a bit more (every 4-5 days or so) with the heat causing a greasier scalp and using more products to keep the frizz away in high humidity/dew points.

But I still have a gunky feel to my scalp and I don't want to lo-poo more than I am. I am also using a John Masters pomade to fight frizz and it has beeswax in it.

So just wondering, which of these rinses would be the best for my situation with greasies on the scalp and possibly waxy build-up on the strand?

TIA!!!
3B curls
Medium texture
Normal elasticity
High porosity
I know this post from bliss 611 was a year ago, but I would also like to know which one of these recipes is best for waxy/perhaps product buildup?? Or maybe a baking soda rinse followed by a lemon rinse?? Is a baking soda rinse better or less effective than a baking soda scrub???
2c
Medium texture
Normal porosity
Normal elasticity
can get weighed down with lots of oils
Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
Gel: Kiss my face gel
DT:Jessicurl
Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go
I'm pretty exclusively CG and can report what works for MY hair in case it helps with yours.

I love baso washes followed by ACV rinses. I always mix my baking soda in with the conditioner I'm cowashing with (often just basic conditioners like VO5 or Suave Naturals which are CG) instead of mixing it with just water as the recipe several posts ago said. When I'm cowashing with baso, I mostly focus on massaging it on my scalp but do a pumping/scrunching motion with the mixture on the length of my hair because I don't want to do a harsh "scrub" with the baso on the cuticle of my hair. (<-- So maybe what I do is something halfway between a rinse and a scrub.) I always rinse well with water and then rinse with ACV mixture. My scalp and hair feel great afterwards!

Again, I'm pretty thoroughly CG, so I don't get a lot of product build up, and so periodic baso washes and ACV rinses are all I've needed when I want to clarify. I don't use products with beeswax in them since I generally haven't liked how my hair felt afterwards, so I don't know how well baso/ACV works for clarifying beeswax buildup.
3b / Fine / Low (to Med) Density / Normal Porosity & Elasticity

Currently Using [*Holy Grails*]
Cleansers: DC No-Poo / DC Low-Poo / *BaSo & ACV*
Co-Washes/ROs: CJ Beauticurls Argan & OO / DC OneC / Organicals DC Creme
Additives: *Silk Amino Acids* / Honeyquat / Fragrance Oils
LIs (found some!): KCKT / CJ Beauticurls LI / CJ Curl Assurance Smoothing Daily Condish
DTs: *Coconut Oil* rinses / *Honey*, EVOO, & DC OneC / CJ Curl Rehab
Sealer: *DM Super Buttercreme*

Goal: APL Hair
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Hair type: mix of everything but bushy
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Baking soda is alkaline so damaging to both skin and hair. honestly use a proper shampoo to clarify and forget trying to be 'natural' in this instance it's not always better.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
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Firefox, alkalinity alone doesn't mean it's damaging for skin and hair. Baking soda has been used for many many years for a variety of things, like exfoliating one's skin and brushing one's teeth. And in the "natural health" communities lots of people mix it with either lemon juice or ACV to alkalize their bodies because acidity inside the body is bad (promotes cancer growth...).

I myself like to use it every now and then but it's better for oily-type build-up and should be followed by an acid rinse or CO with low pH.
Baking soda is a harsh abrasive. It is a very good household cleaner and I've used it for getting stains of china and toilet pans, plus cleaning pots.

You can use it for cleaning your teeth but it's not recommended long term due the fact it's abrasiveness will wear down your tooth enamel quicker. This is why baking soda and whitening toothpastes aren't recommended for regular use.

Using baking soda or any other substance "to alkalize" your body makes no sense simply because your body's systems can regulate themselves. For example drinking water with baking soda will not change the pH of your blood plasma.

While it's well known a poor diet i.e. one a high amount of refined foods and animal products means you are more likely to get cancer ingesting baking soda won't help you. You need to eat more unrefined plant based food. This is of course ignoring other factors like your environment including the air pollution where you live and your genes.

In regards to using it on hair if you aren't happy using SLS and ALS on your hair which are in dish and cleaning detergents and has a more neutral pH, I wouldn't be happy using something that is more abrasive and is more alkaline.
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Baking soda is a harsh abrasive. It is a very good household cleaner and I've used it for getting stains of china and toilet pans, plus cleaning pots.

You can use it for cleaning your teeth but it's not recommended long term due the fact it's abrasiveness will wear down your tooth enamel quicker. This is why baking soda and whitening toothpastes aren't recommended for regular use.

Using baking soda or any other substance "to alkalize" your body makes no sense simply because your body's systems can regulate themselves. For example drinking water with baking soda will not change the pH of your blood plasma.

While it's well known a poor diet i.e. one a high amount of refined foods and animal products means you are more likely to get cancer ingesting baking soda won't help you. You need to eat more unrefined plant based food. This is of course ignoring other factors like your environment including the air pollution where you live and your genes.

In regards to using it on hair if you aren't happy using SLS and ALS on your hair which are in dish and cleaning detergents and has a more neutral pH, I wouldn't be happy using
something that is more abrasive and is more alkaline.
Originally Posted by Blueblood
Whoa, I'm sorry but I strongly disagree with you. It is not really a "harsh" abrasive, I've used it mixed with my toothpaste for over 30 years and no dentist has ever told me my enamel's gone...

Alkalizing with baking soda makes no sense to you because you apparently don't know how it is that our bodies regulate their pH... For starters, sodium bicarbonate is a substance produced by our own bodies, mainly in our small intestines. And the reason the "ideal" pH is maintained in the blood is because minerals such as calcium, magnesium and potassium are used to neutralize excess acid. And if we don't get enough in our diet (and most people don't)... where do you think the blood gets them from? Well, I'll tell you: it gets them from our bones and teeth, which is why a lot of people end up with bad teeth and brittle bones. So using alkalizing agents, helps to spare those vital minerals.

I agree that it's best to eat a healthy diet but since that is not always realistic for everybody, to me it DOES make sense to get a little help here and there. One thing I've learned in my life (and I bet I'm older than you...), is that there's no one thing that can apply to every single human being other than our need for air, food and sleep... the rest is very variable, and each one of us must choose what we think is best for us. However, I'm convinced that if someone believes that something will be bad for them... then it will, so you do well in staying away from baking soda, it's just not for you. But for me, and everyone else who thinks it's ok, than it is.

That's not why a lot of people get bad teeth and brittle bones.

If you are going to argue with someone about your made up science it helps to know there background.

First I gave a degree in life sciences and secondly I unfortunately recovered from a condition causing brittle bones and poor teeth myself. Now lots of people I know are suffering and "alkalizing" wouldn't and won't make a damn bit of difference.
Baking soda can damage the hair and skin over time. My grandfather used baking soda to whiten his teeth. Apple cider vinegar can also damage the hair. Apple cider vinegar made my hair shed & it was hard. I only used a half tablespoon of apple cider vinegar & a sink full of water.
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That's not why a lot of people get bad teeth and brittle bones.

If you are going to argue with someone about your made up science it helps to know there background.

First I gave a degree in life sciences and secondly I unfortunately recovered from a condition causing brittle bones and poor teeth myself. Now lots of people I know are suffering and "alkalizing" wouldn't and won't make a damn bit of difference.
Originally Posted by Blueblood
Made up science... I was studying Holistic Nutriton which included biology and bio-chemistry, but, frankly, I've no interest in going for a "tit for tat" with you or anyone, you were the one who started the argument.

And btw, a major reason dentist TODAY are advising against the use of b.s. for brushing teeth is because lots of people have become addicted to bleaching their teeth, which ruins their enamel, my daughter, who is less than half my age was told by her dentist she had serios loss of enamel, so yeah, when it's already weakened you need to take every precaution.

I suggest that if you have something agains b.s. being used for clarifying hair you should write Lorraine Massey about it because she was the one who included the recipe in her first book (and it's maybe in her 2nd too...). I certainly was not the one who came up with it.
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Baking soda can damage the hair and skin over time. My grandfather used baking soda to whiten his teeth. Apple cider vinegar can also damage the hair. Apple cider vinegar made my hair shed & it was hard. I only used a half tablespoon of apple cider vinegar & a sink full of water.
Originally Posted by curlicious13
Clarifying hair should not be done often so there's really NO danger of damaging the hair, putting on gel damages the hair more for heaven's sake...

I've cured myself from dandruff with ACV and countless other people have, so no damage for me either, perhaps you were sensitive to it, allergies are a proof of that... So exceptions do not really prove that something is "bad"... moderation is the key, even drinking too much water can kill a person y'know...
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I don't like baking soda and vinegar in my hair either Curlicious. We don't have to use everything someone suggests in a book. We have to stick to our guns and do what works for us. After all it is OUR hair so we should do with it what we want for ourselves. For those who like it, more power to you!
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Dixygirl, I'm not really referring to your post, but this is a typical case of what you said to me in another post, people who don't like something or it doesn't work for them putting it down and trying to talk others out of it... It escapes my understanding why some people have to feel they're being told to do something they don't like just because it's in a book or in a thread like this... It's like with diets, there's tons of books written about how to lose weight but what works for some doesn't forothers and sometimes could even be dangerous, that's just the way it is, but each person just needs to apply what works for them and not get upset about what doesn't.
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I like bs to scrub my teeth and to sand off tough stains around the house.
I like acv to burn off moles or warts from the skin Remove Moles, Warts and Skin Tags with Apple Cider Vinegar in 5 days! - YouTube
I also like acv to kill weeds in the yard.
And I like them together to unclog sinks.
The Ancient Egyptians used baking soda salt (natron) to embalm their mummies. It is just my personal preference to keep such a strong desiccant as far away from my hair as possible. Also, since apple cider vinegar can dissolve tough, calloused corns, warts and moles in a matter of days, I imagine it could easily disintegrate my baby fine strands over time.Whether it can or not, I just personally feel more comfy with that one as far away from my hair as possible too. These are just my personal preferences but I think anyone who wants to use these should feel more than free to.We all have different tastes and like a different feel for our hair. Some people really love a squeaky clean feeling to their hair and that terrifies me in general because of my hair's dryness. I know I like to use a lot of oils and creams on my hair that would make a lot of people shudder. So to each his own.

Last edited by dixygirl; 04-22-2014 at 08:47 AM.
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Thanks for the link, I didn't know that particular use. But after watching the video I would definitely NOT compare using pure ACV directly and overnight to kill a mole with using a very dilute solution for rinsing hair that has been used maybe for hundreds of years. There's lots of worse things many of those choose to do to our hair, even hard water can dry it out and hurt it, and some just have to live with it, so IMO that logic needs a little revision... not that I'm saying you or anyone should use ACV or whatever, just that there's no need to be afraid of it and then inadvertently influencing others negatively who could benefit from using it.

I prefer lemon or lime juice to clarify (and it can be drying too if used too often) but sometimes I don't have any so that's when I resort to bs (which, naturally, I follow with a CO of low pH so no damage whatsoever is done) or ACV, but I rarely have a need to clarify so it's not an issue either way and I still prefer it to using shampoo. As for ACV, not even when I used it several times a week after getting a case of dandruff after travelling to the tropics did I notice any dryness in my nearly baby fine hair, so I'm comfortable with using each "as the need arises".

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