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Neleke 03-10-2013 03:15 PM

Would this be too much for my hair?
 
So... I'm a newly curly, just started embracing my curls two weeks ago and started getting CG 2 days ago.
Yesterday I got my hair coloured, so yes, it is damaged (although it is not bleached, it is darker then my natural colour).
I'm a 2b (not healthy yet, so this will not be my definitive curl pattern), have medium-coarse hair, a medium to high density and shoulderlength hair.
I don't know if I'm low or high porosity.

My hair is... dry... really dry and frizzy.
Thursday I'm having an important day (I'm going to work as a subtitling assistant for a day and I would like to make a good first impression since I would love to work there later on) and next week on Friday I'm having what you would call "prom" at school.
So... my hair needs to look awesome this week on Thursday and next week on Friday...

What I was planning to do:
this week Wednesday: in order to get my hair less dry Honey-based Deep Conditioner Deep Conditioner - NaturallyCurly.com
next week thursday: Banana Smoothie Hair Masque Mask - NaturallyCurly.com
to get both proteins and "oils"

Would this be a good idea? or would it be "too much" taking into account that there's only a week and a day between the two?
What would you advise me, since I am a newly curly?

Hootenanny 03-10-2013 03:55 PM

Sounds great to me! My only question for you is whether you've ever used honey before, since both recipes are honey-heavy. Also, if I were you, I'd try the banana smoothie one first and see if that isn't enough. Good luck! Please update about how the banana one works; I'm thinking of trying it! :)

Neleke 03-10-2013 03:57 PM

I have never tried anything out, so not honey either.
I'm still quite new so....

LoveInBetween 03-10-2013 04:03 PM

If your strands are coarse, don't do the protein treatment. Coarse strands don't do well with protein treatments, your hair is dry and needs all the moisture it can get. Just do the deep condition. You're still new to being CG so I wouldn't expirement with protein just yet, especially if you have an important event to attend. Replace the protein treatment with a more moisturizing recipe.

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Neleke 03-10-2013 04:12 PM

I'm somewhere between medium and coarse.
My hair dresser told me my hair is a bit thicker than the average hair he sees, but I've noticed that I have different thicknesses of hair. And isn't the banana thingie protein and moisturizing?

Hootenanny 03-10-2013 04:21 PM

Don't worry, the banana smoothie won't over-protein you. I have medium to coarse, low porosity hair, and I use WAY stronger protein treatments than that! :mrgreen: The only way you can know if you hair will like a treatment is to try it.

Since it's your first time trying this one, just leave it on for no more than 30 minutes and don't apply any heat. If that has no effect, then you could try a longer application in the future (and possibly steam it or blow dry during application to increase absorption). Hope it works out for you! Sounds like a great recipe.

Neleke 03-10-2013 04:24 PM

And would it be ok to leave just one week between the two different treatments?

LoveInBetween 03-10-2013 05:13 PM

You can do deep conditioning treatments as much as you want, but if you DO choose to do protein treatments be space the out. Try one a a month or less.

What works for another coarse curly, won't always work for you. Remember that when considering trying something new.

Good luck and tell me how everything turns out.

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Hootenanny 03-10-2013 07:50 PM

The previous post (by LoveIB) is absolutely right. It can be helpful to get some advice on these boards, but the truth is that no one can tell you whether and what proteins will (or will not) work for you, and no one can tell you how often to use (or not use) treatments. Some medium-coarse curlies say protein doesn't work for them, while others say that it works miracles! Some medium-coarse curlies use protein once a week, while others do once a month or less!

As I said before, the only way YOU can know if your hair will like a treatment is to try it! This is part of the fun of the curly learning process! :toothy10: And exactly the same thing applies to advice about how often you should do it. If your hair loves the protein smoothie, you'll know right away: your curls will be bouncier, better formed, and generally healthier. This means you should use it again if/when your hair starts looking overly soft or limp. Only YOU will know if the time is right. The same thing is true of deep moisturizing/deep conditioning treatments. YOU are the only one who can judge if a protein or moisturizing treatment is too much!

However, if you want more guidance than this (and I know I did when I was starting out! :) ), then here's a great site for info on the protein/moisture balance: The Fine Art of Protein and Moisture Balancing for Black Hair Care - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com

Good luck, and please do post back with an update, if you decide to try it! :flower: Hope this helps!

Neleke 03-11-2013 05:27 AM

I will definitely do the honey-olive oil treatment on wednesday, but am still doubting a bit to do the banana-milk-egg-honey-olive oil thingie next week thursday.
I'm a bit afraid of the proteins, although I could really use bouncier, better formed curls, because now I have really "good" curls, but they aren't really well formed ... they keep falling apart easily if you get what I mean.

I would really love my hair to be awesome this thursday and next week friday. I already figured out that the honey-oil thingie won't do damage for me.
I wonder: what is the worst thing that can happen if I use the banana smoothie just once and if it turns out that my hair doesn't like protein?
I don't want to have my have "ruined" for prom, but I don't want to "not do the banana mask" just because maybe it doesn't turn out great and then find out later that in fact it does work great for me ... if you get what I mean...

I should've embraced my curls like months earlier :p so I could've tested these things when it didn't really matter if my curls were awesome or not...

And do you know how coloured hair usually reacts to all these homemade things?
I already have the feeling that for my hair colour it would be better to avoid lemon juice, right?

LoveInBetween 03-11-2013 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootenanny (Post 2134703)
The previous post (by LoveIB) is absolutely right. It can be helpful to get some advice on these boards, but the truth is that no one can tell you whether and what proteins will (or will not) work for you, and no one can tell you how often to use (or not use) treatments. Some medium-coarse curlies say protein doesn't work for them, while others say that it works miracles! Some medium-coarse curlies use protein once a week, while others do once a month or less!

As I said before, the only way YOU can know if your hair will like a treatment is to try it! This is part of the fun of the curly learning process! :toothy10: And exactly the same thing applies to advice about how often you should do it. If your hair loves the protein smoothie, you'll know right away: your curls will be bouncier, better formed, and generally healthier. This means you should use it again if/when your hair starts looking overly soft or limp. Only YOU will know if the time is right. The same thing is true of deep moisturizing/deep conditioning treatments. YOU are the only one who can judge if a protein or moisturizing treatment is too much!

However, if you want more guidance than this (and I know I did when I was starting out! :) ), then here's a great site for info on the protein/moisture balance: The Fine Art of Protein and Moisture Balancing for Black Hair Care - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com

Good luck, and please do post back with an update, if you decide to try it! :flower: Hope this helps!

Great advice. (:

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Neleke 03-12-2013 05:28 PM

Going to do the honey-olive oil treatment tomorrow.
Wish me luck! (to be continued)

Neleke 03-13-2013 12:48 PM

Update: I did the honey-olive oil treatment
My hair is definitely softer and less dry now, I had less frizz and defined curls, but less curls although that can also be because I didn't scrunch as good as other times.

Anyhow: after it was dry, I went to visit my grandma... and it started snowing again... and my hair was full of snow, so I had to rewet my hair and restyle it completely because it got frizzy again and because I'm having an important day tomorrow (so my hair has to be awesome).
And I plead guilty: to ensure my hair being awesome tomorrow I used a mousse (Tigi bed head foxy curly) with cones in them, although I should be CG now, just because I know this mousse has good curldefiningeffects for my hair and I don't know any other mousses with the same effect yet.

I will definitely not use this mousse every time though... This just was like... an emergency.
Can anyone recommend me a nice mousse that makes your curls awesome? (without cones)

I'll try the proteintreatment next thursday and keep you updated...
The honey-olive oil will be re-tried another time. It didn't completely fail or so, but I expected more of it. (although my hair really is less dry now)

Neleke 03-13-2013 05:15 PM

Update 2:
So... I wetted my hair again this evening after the snow, and when it was soaking wet I put the Tigi mousse in (normally I would put mousse after making my hair "towel dry, now I added it to my soaking wet hair) and my really looks waaaaay better now... Hurray

Hootenanny 03-13-2013 09:21 PM

Glad it worked out for you! Yay! Hope the banana smoothie works as well. Please do update. :)

LoveInBetween 03-13-2013 10:48 PM

Good choice on holding off on trying the smoothie.

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Neleke 03-14-2013 04:13 PM

Update: hair was ok-ish today, and important day went great.
My hair does feel really dry again...
Would I maybe be high porosity since I seem to be losing a lot of moisture? (This morning it wasn't dry, not really moisturised a lot either, but definitely not dry... now it really feels dry again).

I will try the banana smoothie next thursday and see how it goes. If my hair is dry afterwards (so if I seem to be responding badly to the proteins) I will do a deep conditionerthingie afterwards.
Does that seem like a good idea?

Oh... and I'm getting jojobaoil tomorrow I guess...
What do you think about that?

Neleke 03-15-2013 03:29 AM

Really really strange...
I woke up this morning (3rd day hair) and my hair felt less dry than yesterday evening.
Now, 3,5 hours later, my hair already starts feeling a drier...
Note to myself: I have strange hair... and I don't know what I should do next...

I just want to have pretty hair! :( (although I did get a compliment this morning from one of my fellow students because my curl was really visible today...)

I had like a better hairday than yesterday, which was 2nd day hair... It seems that first day hair is my worst day (I already noticed that quite a ocuple of times).
My hair gets better on 2nd day and 3rd day. I didn't try 4th day hair yet and have to postpone that experiment for at least another 2 weeks (= Easterholidays)

Neleke 03-21-2013 04:52 AM

Sooo ... I tried the bananasmoothie thing today (banana-egg-milk-honey-olive oil) and I don't know what it will look like yet since I'm still plopping...

What effects should a proteintreatment have? And how do I know if my hair liked it or not?

CFcurls 03-24-2013 11:26 PM

Its really hard to say what a protein treatment will have on your hair. If its good for your hair, it will feel stronger, shinier, and have good curl definition. If the protein isn't for you, your hair will feel dry, straw-like, and will be a bit brittle.

I would suggest that you first try to just stick with getting moisture into your hair since it sounds like the frizz problem is happening because your hair is losing moisture. Oils wise, Jojoba oil is a great sealant to put on your ends, personally i'm a bigger fan of coconut oil because its fairly light, penetrates the hair shaft, and smells like the tropical vacation of my dreams.

You don't have to make a whole bunch of DT masks if you don't want to, just simply finding a cheap conditioner (like suave naturals) and adding a little olive/coconut/avocado/sweet almond oil and wrapping your hair in a plastic baggie or conditioning cap for a few hours will do ya.

Just note that the whole process of getting your hair healthy and where you want it to be is going to take time (as in it might be months before you really notice a significant difference). I can honestly say that my hair from when I started (like, 1.5-2yrs ago) is completely different to now.

Just keep in mind that simple is usually the better route. You should only need to DT once every 1-2 weeks, otherwise your hair is going to be overloaded. Protein treatments really depend on where your porosity and texture are. If you are really really itching to do a protein treatment, I would recommend light protein treatment. Just give your hair time to get with the new routine you have, and i'm sure it will turn out great :)


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