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Old 08-17-2013, 05:33 PM   #1
 
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Default Making my first fsg... additives?

Ok I got my flaxseed and in today. I am going to make it plain to begin with.... but if you add anything, do you add it before you boil the water or after the gel forms? Things I am considering adding... jojoba oil, honey, vanilla extract (for smell), and apple cider vinegar for ph if that would even work.

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Old 08-18-2013, 06:42 PM   #2
 
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Magnesium sulfate (epsom salt) is the only thing I add to the water and seeds before I boil them, everything else gets added afterward.
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Old 08-18-2013, 08:39 PM   #3
 
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Ok thanks!

Also what preservatives do you add? Is a few drops of lemon juice sufficient?

Can coconut oil be used or will it solidify?
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Here it is! I whisked in a few drops of vanilla extract for smell and about 1/4tsp jojoba oil.


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Be careful with the coconut oil. Depending on what else you add, it may well form little solid flecks in the fridge. One of my batches did. I reheated it to melt the oil and then mixed it 50-50 with conditioner to try to keep the coconut oil from solidifying again.
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I tried jojoba in mine and hated it bites that i got a whole bottle still.. May make an oils refresher or use in a dt..

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My latest batch has nothing in it but flax seeds and water. I figure I can mix anything else in my hard before application and not mess up a whole batch.
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Today my hair smelled a little like vomit... I had to wash it out... does it go rancid in your hair? I put it in last night and wet and restyled this morning with just fsg. This afternoon my hair had that odor and I had to rewash. Right now I'm styled with yestocarrots mixed with a little jojoba oil and then kccc just scrunched on the ends. Its more wavy at the moment, but at least it doesn't smell like vomit! Making my first fsg... additives?-uploadfromtaptalk1376955148756.jpg

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Old 08-20-2013, 07:11 AM   #9
 
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Ewwwwwww! That never happened to me, but I guess it could.
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That happened to my hair! It smelled awful :/ I think my package of seeds went bad because every time I made fsg it started to stink right after I put it in my hair
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My seeds are good. Ive already eaten some (its good to chew whole flaxseeds for omega 3) and there is no odor or flavor.

I am quite sensitive to odors so maybe that's it. Overall though I wasn't impressed with the performance and the texture didn't thrill me either. Not really worth the effort in my opinion.
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My seeds are good. Ive already eaten some (its good to chew whole flaxseeds for omega 3) and there is no odor or flavor.

I am quite sensitive to odors so maybe that's it. Overall though I wasn't impressed with the performance and the texture didn't thrill me either. Not really worth the effort in my opinion.
If you want thicker, harder hold gel add xanthan gum. How did you sterilise the jelly and all your equipment? What preservative did you use?

You are confusing rancidity of the seeds (fatty acids oxidising) with the possible presence of microorganisms that are feeding on the carb rich mucilage extract (little to no oil present in the jelly). If there are spore formers present boiling may not be enough, they may have come from the seeds, your equipment or be in your hair or scalp.

Humans cannot chew or digest flaxseeds sufficiently to release worthwhile amounts of omega-3, they should be ground. We convert short chain omega-3 to the useable long chain format at rates as low as 10%.

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Old 08-23-2013, 07:56 AM   #13
 
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I have xanthan gum for gluten free cooking (husband is gluten sensitive) so I would like to give that a try.

How should I sterilize equipment? Should I boil the water for a while before adding the flax? Most of my dishes go through the dishwasher but I handwash pots and pans a lot. Should I soak them in bleach water before making the gel?

Is there anything natural I can add to the gel to inhibit microbial growth?


Oh and I know ground flax is better for omega 3. But I wanted to sample the seeds... and I ground them with my teeth I take cod liver oil daily.

I'm willing to try again!
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I don't sterilize my pot or mixing spoon. I figure those deal with the boiled flax only. I rub alcohol on my mixing bowl, strainer, whisk, and container before pouring the flax.

Here's a good link about preserving homemade gels, and there's a link in there about sterilizing your equipment:

Science-y Hair Blog: Preserving Your Homemade Hair Gels

The link within the link doesn't work, it should go here:
http://science-yhairblog.blogspot.co...es-go-bad.html
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Old 08-23-2013, 01:12 PM   #15
 
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Those are chemicals added, what about natural antimicrobials like cinnamon?
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Old 08-23-2013, 10:37 PM   #16
 
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Alright I made another batch tonight. I soaked everything in bleach water before starting. Then rinsed with distilled water. After I boiled the flaxseeds and strained the gel I added some cinnamon powder and it smells wonderful. I put it in a clean sterilized container and styled my hair with it. I actually have soft bouncy curls! I will see what it smells like when I wake up.
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Very bouncy soft frizz free curls!
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Old 08-23-2013, 10:59 PM   #18
 
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Sorry I'm just really excited about these results.


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And yes I do know cinnamon can lighten hair and I am completely ok with that. I love the smell... especially for the fall.

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Looking good!

I've also just made my first batch of flax seed gel and have been wondering about how to preserve it.

I've read this blog Science-y Hair Blog: Preserving Your Homemade Hair Gels and came to the conclusion that the easiest way is:
- pay attention to hygiene when preparing, so sterilize your tools beforehand
- pay attention to hygiene when using, so preferably a bottle over a jar (which you have to dip your fingers into)
- keep refrigerated
- freeze portions if you don't use it all within two weeks

There are loads of things you can add (with complicated names) to strech it beyond those two weeks, but I just figured it isn't worth the effort. From what I gathered natural additives like grapefruitseed oil (which some people add to preserve) don't really act as a preservative.

She also has a recipe page Science-y Hair Blog: Recipes and Projects which I found inspiring on what I can add for which purpose. I made my gel and added agave syrup for extra hold and gelatine for protein. Next time I plan on adding some oil as well.
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Well my hair doesn't smell like vomit today so I guess there was some contanimation the first go around.
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