Flaxseed gel fail. Anyone else get dry crusty straw hair?

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So I made some flaxseed gel for the first time. I went of the recipe naptual85 gives, except I didn't have any essential oils to put in it. I did put a few drops of vitamin e oil. And just a touch of Epsom salt (I read that it makes curls form), also I did a little grapefruit seed oil because I read it help preserve it.

Anyway it dried my hair out majorly. So I made another batch with nothing but the flaxseed and a few drops of vitamin E oil. It still dried my hair like crazy. Also it kinda sat on top of my hair like glue, and was white and crusty. I thought the whole point of flaxseed gel is that it doesn't dry your hair out. Now idk if it's something I did, because I still had Eco styler in my hair. I just did a wash and go, and I was not planing on starting over from scratch. So I realize that could be why it didn't work well.

I know I didn't make it too thick, I actually thought it might be to thin, but looking at naptural85s video, it looks exactly like that, maybe even thiner. I'm thinking the crusty glue look was just because my hair wasn't wet (gel does the same thing if I put it on dry hair), but it was so runny I didn't think it would have a problem. It felt like water in my hair, but slimy.


So I'm thinking maybe just putting the flaxseed gel on top of the ecostyler is what made it super crispy and dry as straw. I'm wondering is it that I have to do it on fresh productless hair? Or do I do it over top a leave in or some form of moisturizer?
Most people use flaxseed as a definer over leave in conditioner AFAIK. Some then top with a hard hold gel, some use no other styler, some add xanthan gum to the flaxseed for extra hold/ curl boosting.
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2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Did you use a leave-in? I would advise using a leave-in before any styler. Also, I think you're right about already having eco styler on being the problem. If you're going to combo the two, I'd put the flaxseed on first and then eco-styler. But, to be honest, I'd try flaxseed on its own with some leave-in first, then you can see whether or not another styler on top is even necessary
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Allie

3A with some 3B thrown in. Medium porosity. High density. Low-medium thickness.


Pre-poo: Organic Virgin Coconut Oil
Low-poo: Shea Moisture Coconut & Hibiscus Curl & Shine
Conditioner: Faith in Nature or
Shea Moisture Raw Restorative
D/C: Giovanni 2chic Avocado & Olive Oil Ultra Moist Deep Moisture Mask

Leave-in: My DNA
Styler: Ouidad Climate Control Heat & Humidity or
Umberto Giannini Scrunching Jelly

UK curly. CG since October 2013.
Aiming for WL curls (eventually)
I just made my first batch of gel yesterday- I used it on hair that had a conditioner/aloe vera gel mix but I love the effect. My curls have held up, but they don't exactly feel the best- I'm not sure if that is because I used too much aloe vera gel initially or the added flaxseed.

I agree with BotticelliBrit though, that you might want to apply the flaxseed gel over the leave-in without the other gel to see if you need it. When you have freshly washed hair, do you combine your products before applying or do you layer them? This might make a big difference also- at least it does for my hair. Iagirl has a curl cream that you may want to try: Science-y Hair Blog: What's Cooking This Week (8-13-11). It combines strong hold hair gel, conditioner, flaxseed gel, and optional honey for more hold. She also has another one with the gel, and coconut oil, with two variations. Science-y Hair Blog: What's Cookin': Super Smooth Flax Curl Cream

I also get the same dry results when I use oils on my hair. I didn't add any oil at all to my batch because of this. When oils are too high on store bought products my hair behaves that way- I don't know how this might affect how long my gel will last though. I was contemplating using something like citric acid as a preservative instead of oils, but I didn't want to run out to the store just to add it this time. You can find it in the home canning section of most stores that I've seen it in.
3C/4A, fine texture, low-medium density, and low porosity?
CG since November 2013.

Pre-Poo: Coconut Oil overnight, or a greek yogurt mixture
Shampoo: Curls Cleanser and/or clarifier
Conditioner: trying out different Suave Naturals conditioners and GVP's leave-in conditioner at the moment
Styler: iagirl's super smooth flax curl cream. <3
PT: iagirl's gelatin treatment 3-4 times a month
DT: conditioner or yogurt base with honey and oil if the conditioner has none.
I think the problem was applying the FSG over EcoStyler. I just use it over my leave in.

That said, there are a couple of points you might want to consider. The only reason to add essential oil(s) is aroma; so, if you don't have them, just leave them out. It's grapefruit seed _extract_, not oil which is generally used in FSG, and it's meant to be a (natural) preservative.

If you make those changes, and still find that your hair is dry after using FSG, try leaving out the pinch of epsom salts.
Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008
What's the aloe vera gel do? I make my own FSG and have never heard of anyone adding aloe. Interesting!
What's the aloe vera gel do? I make my own FSG and have never heard of anyone adding aloe. Interesting!
Originally Posted by curltastic333
The first time with my flaxseed gel was bc it was an old wash and go- too much aloe gel and I can't scrunch out the crunch.
I redid my hair Saturday using the curl cream recipe with aloe gel, honey, flaxseed gel, and some Aussie Moist conditioner. I decided to put in finger coils. I LOVE the result- they didn't shrink as much as they have before first. Second, they are really soft, shiny, and have held up great even though I keep forgetting to put my scarf on before bed. Then again, my hair does not tolerate layering products on very well, it prefers one product only or mixing them all together then applying no matter what it is.


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3C/4A, fine texture, low-medium density, and low porosity?
CG since November 2013.

Pre-Poo: Coconut Oil overnight, or a greek yogurt mixture
Shampoo: Curls Cleanser and/or clarifier
Conditioner: trying out different Suave Naturals conditioners and GVP's leave-in conditioner at the moment
Styler: iagirl's super smooth flax curl cream. <3
PT: iagirl's gelatin treatment 3-4 times a month
DT: conditioner or yogurt base with honey and oil if the conditioner has none.
I think the problem was applying the FSG over EcoStyler. I just use it over my leave in.

That said, there are a couple of points you might want to consider. The only reason to add essential oil(s) is aroma; so, if you don't have them, just leave them out. It's grapefruit seed _extract_, not oil which is generally used in FSG, and it's meant to be a (natural) preservative.

If you make those changes, and still find that your hair is dry after using FSG, try leaving out the pinch of epsom salts.
Originally Posted by Morgan_Adcock


Sorry about that, I was sleepy. I totally meant extract. That's what I used. I guess I just had oil on the brain
I tried it again on my hair with just a leave in. I think I love it. It makes my hair curl like nothing else has. Also it doesn't seem to be as dry but I can't say for sure yet because it's not completely dry yet. I do have a lot of frizz though. I think I just need to experiment with the ingredients.

So far the flaxseed gel is the only thing that's made my heat damaged hair curl

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